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hogtownhabsfan* 10-08-2013 09:16 PM

Colorado forwards vs Edmonton forwards
 
Which group do you take?

Consider everything. The entire group on their big league rosters, contracts considered.

randomrob7 10-08-2013 09:20 PM

Edmonton has the better top six.

Sky04 10-08-2013 09:21 PM

Colorado has a great mix of skill, size and 2-way play, I'll go with them.

Bocephus86 10-08-2013 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sky04 (Post 72245793)
Colorado has a great mix of skill, size and 2-way play, I'll go with them.

This for me as well. Oilers have tons of talent but they are missing the other types you need in a championship-like top six.

Blackhawkswincup 10-08-2013 09:24 PM

Moved this thread over here and added a poll

Go at it

Daley Tarasenkshow 10-08-2013 09:26 PM

Getting perron did it for me. Edmonton.

hogtownhabsfan* 10-08-2013 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blackhawkswincup (Post 72246297)
Moved this thread over here and added a poll

Go at it

Thanks, meant to post it here, and with a poll, and screwed up on both counts!

Happy Hallidays 10-08-2013 09:38 PM

Hall - Nuge - Eberle
Perron - Gagner - Yakupov
Jonesuu - Gordon - Hemsky


vs
Landeskog - Duchene - O'Reilly
Tanguay - Stastny - Downie
Parenteau - Mackinnon - McGinn


Nuge vs Mac (1st OVR Cornerstone Centers)
Hall vs Landeskog (Leaders who will do anything to win #1LW)
Yakupov vs Duchene (Dynamic speed here with elite offensive potential)
Eberle vs Oreilly (Both playing #1 RW)
Perron vs Parenteau (Great complimentary wingers)
Gagner vs Stastny (One has yet to take the next step, the other has taken a step back, solid #2 C's)
Hemsky vs Tanguay (Older finesse playmakers)
Downie vs Gordon (Hardworking physical players, different position, Downie more agitator)
Jonesuu vs McGinn (3rd line Big bodies who can score)

Are the big matchups imo

I think most agree the Oilers have more high end offensive potential and have definitely shown it, but the Avs are deeper down the middle.

Either way it's extremely close and both have edges in the match ups above, most teams in the NHL are very envious of us I would imagine..

ResilientBeast 10-08-2013 09:45 PM

Why turn us rebuilding teams against each other?

That said Edmonton

Crisp Breakout 10-08-2013 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Hallidays (Post 72248277)
Hall - Nuge - Eberle
Perron - Gagner - Yakupov
Jonesuu - Gordon - Hemsky


vs
Landeskog - Duchene - O'Reilly
Tanguay - Stastny - Downie
Parenteau - Mackinnon - McGinn


Nuge vs Mac (1st OVR Cornerstone Centers)
Hall vs Landeskog (Leaders who will do anything to win #1LW)
Yakupov vs Duchene (Dynamic speed here with elite offensive potential)
Eberle vs Oreilly (Both playing #1 RW)
Perron vs Parenteau (Great complimentary wingers)
Gagner vs Stastny (One has yet to take the next step, the other has taken a step back, solid #2 C's)
Hemsky vs Tanguay (Older finesse playmakers)
Downie vs Gordon (Hardworking physical players, different position, Downie more agitator)
Jonesuu vs McGinn (3rd line Big bodies who can score)

Are the big matchups imo

I think most agree the Oilers have more high end offensive potential and have definitely shown it, but the Avs are deeper down the middle.

Either way it's extremely close and both have edges in the match ups above, most teams in the NHL are very envious of us I would imagine..

The only part of our lineup you got right were the centers.

Happy Hallidays 10-08-2013 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crisp Breakout (Post 72249263)
The only part of our lineup you got right were the centers.

Haha oh well, just attempted to put them in depth chart form.

RisingSun 10-08-2013 09:47 PM

I know this thread is about the top forwards, but this size theory regarding the oilers is kind of silly, considering majority of our up comers are huge.

F
Khaira - 6'3, 210
Zharkov - 6'4 - 208
Yakimov - 6'5 - 202
Moroz - 6'2 - 211
Kessy - 6'3 - 208

D
Nurse - 6'3 - 192
Klefbom - 6'3 - 213
Marincin - 6'4 - 188
Gernat - 6'3 - 197

And these guys aren't scrubs, they're legit prospects likely to make the team.

vespa99 10-08-2013 09:49 PM

Oilers get the nod in pure talent and high end potential.
Avs get the nod in variety and balance.
IMO

AKL 10-08-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sky04 (Post 72245793)
Colorado has a great mix of skill, size and 2-way play, I'll go with them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bocephus86 (Post 72246159)
This for me as well. Oilers have tons of talent but they are missing the other types you need in a championship-like top six.

These two things end the thread for me. Avs.

seancolorado 10-08-2013 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Happy Hallidays (Post 72248277)
Hall - Nuge - Eberle
Perron - Gagner - Yakupov
Jonesuu - Gordon - Hemsky


vs
Landeskog - Duchene - O'Reilly
Tanguay - Stastny - Downie
Parenteau - Mackinnon - McGinn



Nuge vs Mac (1st OVR Cornerstone Centers)
Hall vs Landeskog (Leaders who will do anything to win #1LW)
Yakupov vs Duchene (Dynamic speed here with elite offensive potential)
Eberle vs Oreilly (Both playing #1 RW)
Perron vs Parenteau (Great complimentary wingers)
Gagner vs Stastny (One has yet to take the next step, the other has taken a step back, solid #2 C's)
Hemsky vs Tanguay (Older finesse playmakers)
Downie vs Gordon (Hardworking physical players, different position, Downie more agitator)
Jonesuu vs McGinn (3rd line Big bodies who can score)

Are the big matchups imo

I think most agree the Oilers have more high end offensive potential and have definitely shown it, but the Avs are deeper down the middle.

Either way it's extremely close and both have edges in the match ups above, most teams in the NHL are very envious of us I would imagine..


O'Reilly-Duchene-Downie
Landeskog-Stastny-Tanguay
McGinn-MacKinnon-Parenteau

SillyRabbit 10-08-2013 10:01 PM

Colorado literally has 3 potential first lines.

O'Reilly-Duchene-Downie
Landeskog-Stastny-Tanguay
McGinn-MacKinnon-Parenteau

Very balanced, strong offensively and defensively, with physicality, speed and skill.

I'd take the Avs group.

tucker3434 10-08-2013 10:09 PM

I feel like this has been beaten to death, but I still voted for the avs.

ResilientBeast 10-08-2013 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SillyRabbit (Post 72250887)
Colorado literally has 3 potential first lines.

O'Reilly-Duchene-Downie
Landeskog-Stastny-Tanguay
McGinn-MacKinnon-Parenteau

Very balanced, strong offensively and defensively, with physicality, speed and skill.

I'd take the Avs group.

Okay that's an exaggeration

Razor29 10-08-2013 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ResilientBeast (Post 72251825)
Okay that's an exaggeration

Not really...

hogtownhabsfan* 10-08-2013 10:34 PM

Didn't want any opinion in the first post to influence results, but since Colorado is winning this 4 to 1 after 50 votes, I'll say that I would take the Colorado group.

Duchene is so damn electric offensively, while Landeskog is just a brilliant all around player, I think these two could be like a reverse Kane/Toews in a couple of years.

And then you have MacKinnon who could lead the league in scoring one day, and I just love that trio going forward, expecially with Landeskog and Duchene locked up on team friendly deals.

klozge 10-08-2013 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tucker3434 (Post 72251615)
I feel like this has been beaten to death, but I still voted for the avs.

Definitely.
I voted Avs and don't think I'll feel like changing my opinion in the future but we shouldn't forget that the Oilers started their rebuild a year later than Colorado.

Habsawce 10-08-2013 11:14 PM

Colorado without a doubt. They are so deep down the middle going forward, they're going to take the Western Conference by the throat in 2-3 years.

FilthyNote* 10-08-2013 11:18 PM

Oilers are better as a group of individuals but the Avs are better as a team.

Oilders need better direction, structure, D and G to their game. If they can get that they will destroy the competition. So Looking at just the F's I would take the Oilers.

Mrb1p 10-08-2013 11:18 PM

Colorado for me. They have a similar offense to the cup winning hawks (Not now obviously)

Duchene will cement himself as a top 10 player(Closest is Hall(Hall might have the edge now), Mackinnon is dynamic and has that winner attitude also and then theres the ultimate warrior in Landeskog.... I don't even have to list the support cast which is IMO way more balanced than the Edmonton one... All they really need is two other top 4 Dman (which includes a number 1/2) and then they will be set IMO. Sadly, I don't think they have no one in the pipes capable of that... (Lets say being their Keith) They might want to flip Stastny in a package for a good Dman.

I see Edmonton more as a Washington type of team (Hall/Ovi, Semin/Yakupov, Backstrom/RNH, Schultz/Green..)

Gritzky98 10-08-2013 11:42 PM

Oilers have a slightly better Top 6, Avs have better forwards overall though


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