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NYR Viper 10-14-2013 08:48 AM

Around the NHL II - 11/8: Oilers Go Insane.
 
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Barbara Underhill 10-14-2013 08:55 AM

Montoya has turned himself into a pretty solid backup, I like his game.

NYR Viper 10-14-2013 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Barbara Underhill (Post 72577085)
Montoya has turned himself into a pretty solid backup, I like his game.

Ironic isn't it? Montoya is a good back-up. Chad Johnson is a back-up in Boston. The Rangers have Biron who everyone calls old and bad.

Barbara Underhill 10-14-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by NYR Viper (Post 72577317)
Ironic isn't it? Montoya is a good back-up. Chad Johnson is a back-up in Boston. The Rangers have Biron who everyone calls old and bad.

Indeed, he's got composure which is the thing I noticed developing the last couple years. Still wouldn't want him starting the majority of games if my starter went down, but he's been trending upwards for awhile now.

Biron is still serviceable I think, he hasn't had a good game in awhile but going back to last year he wasn't getting a ton of help '11-'12 he was stellar but I thought he overachieved. Maybe he's still somewhere in the middle it's probably his last season in the NHL.

I can't edit because I've been bad, but was going to add that Anderson has stunk and that is why I am hesitant to call the Sens a guaranteed PO team. They go as he goes and he's not looked good. Was wondering if we'd see this side of him again.

NYR Viper 10-14-2013 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Barbara Underhill (Post 72577515)
Indeed, he's got composure which is the thing I noticed developing the last couple years. Still wouldn't want him starting the majority of games if my starter went down, but he's been trending upwards for awhile now.

Biron is still serviceable I think, he hasn't had a good game in awhile but going back to last year he wasn't getting a ton of help '11-'12 he was stellar but I thought he overachieved. Maybe he's still somewhere in the middle it's probably his last season in the NHL.

I can't edit because I've been bad, but was going to add that Anderson has stunk and that is why I am hesitant to call the Sens a guaranteed PO team. They go as he goes and he's not looked good. Was wondering if we'd see this side of him again.

To be fair though, Hank hasn't looked good either. I think Andy will be fine

Barbara Underhill 10-14-2013 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by NYR Viper (Post 72577591)
To be fair though, Hank hasn't looked good either. I think Andy will be fine

Yeah I have trouble calling out any goalies with Hank playing the way he has, not all his fault obviously. But it's hard to justify taking shots at other teams goalies when our GAA and Sv. % are as bad as they are.

silverfish 10-14-2013 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by NYR Viper (Post 72577317)
Ironic isn't it? Montoya is a good back-up. Chad Johnson is a back-up in Boston. The Rangers have Biron who everyone calls old and bad.

Yeah, but if Montoya was still here there's a 100% chance people would:

A) Post about how much better he is than Hank, and we would have weekly trade Lundqvist threads.
B) Complain that we wasted a first-round pick on a perennial backup
C) Wonder why we kept Montoya instead of Chad Johnson, or Jason LaBarbera
D) Wish we had a more veteran backup

HFNYR - Never satisfied.

RangerBoy 10-14-2013 10:28 AM

The Rangers organization,the fans and media don't have much patience with growing pains.

Or they're very impatient.

Andrew Gross and Stop coaching Pat Leonard want the Rangers to bring up Kreider and/or Miller to round out the Rangers roster. Both of them are down there to play major minutes and develop their games.

silverfish 10-14-2013 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RangerBoy (Post 72579457)
The Rangers organization,the fans and media don't have much patience with growing pains.

Or they're very impatient.

Andrew Gross and Stop coaching Pat Leonard want the Rangers to bring up Kreider and/or Miller to round out the Rangers roster. Both of them are down there to play major minutes and develop their games.

Is this in jest, then?

http://i.imgur.com/UQqAzOn.png

Fitzy 10-14-2013 10:36 AM

The Rangers have a lack of team speed with no Nash, Hagelin or Kreider, which would be a solid case to bring up Chris, but I think as it is we can give those guys 20-30 games at a minimum to get confidence.

NYR just need to settle, start winning games, and stop turning the puck over in their own end. I don't think its a personnel issue, though missing Nash hasn't helped.

In terms of the league, no one in our division is really running away so far. NJ, Washington, and Philidelphia look like they could be in for very poor seasons. We just need to stay in the hunt of things during this transitional period. Making the playoffs will be tougher for us under this format, as everyone knows.

Barbara Underhill 10-14-2013 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by RangerBoy (Post 72579457)
The Rangers organization,the fans and media don't have much patience with growing pains.

Or they're very impatient.

Andrew Gross and Stop coaching Pat Leonard want the Rangers to bring up Kreider and/or Miller to round out the Rangers roster. Both of them are down there to play major minutes and develop their games.

The fans spur this on more than anyone IMO, I don't know how many times I see random comments on blogs or Facebook about how Asham needs to be sent down and Kreider brought up cause he is "so much better ZOMG!" it's the same people who say we should buyout Richards anytime he has a bad game, and they don't mean use an amnesty buyout on him, they just want him bought out the next day.

I think the guys in the media see this and start pandering to it.

Glennsoe 10-14-2013 01:21 PM

Yak benched for 2nd straight game ?

I know he's played bad lately - so I'm not that surpriced...

jniklast 10-14-2013 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Glennsoe (Post 72587279)
Yak benched for 2nd straight game ?

I know he's played bad lately - so I'm not that surpriced...

MDZ for Yakupov :sarcasm:

Glen Teflon Sather 10-14-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jniklast (Post 72588355)
MDZ for Yakupov :sarcasm:

MDZ, Boyle, and Pyatt for Yakupov:sarcasm:

NYR94 10-14-2013 03:53 PM

Wow, second game benched for Yakupov? Eakins is doing things previous Edmonton coaches might not have done.

I still thing that team is being held back by Lowe. The coach can only do so much with what he is given.

Malarowski 10-14-2013 04:04 PM

I think their goal tending is the biggest hold-back there, together with all the offensive talent that simply doesn't work.

Glennsoe 10-14-2013 04:30 PM

So...mdz,pyatt and boyle+picks for yakupov then..

Throw in Asham too..

EuroFlair 10-14-2013 04:53 PM

Hank for Nail!!

Crease 10-14-2013 06:34 PM

All things considered, I would trade anyone but McDonagh straight up for Yakupov.

SoftEuro4thLiner 10-14-2013 06:41 PM

before I forget about it: lirl at Green for that awesome check into the bench.

boyle2boyle 10-14-2013 06:48 PM

That Eberle guy is pretty damn good.

Random prediction: In 10 years, MDZ > Eberle might look like a bigger draft mistake than McIlrath > Tarasenko

Ail 10-14-2013 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Alien Valuating (Post 72602455)
That Eberle guy is pretty damn good.

Random prediction: In 10 years, MDZ > Eberle might look like a bigger draft mistake than McIlrath > Tarasenko

It already is.

silverfish 10-14-2013 06:51 PM

What is this, the Sabres 3rd time on NBCSN this season? Do we really need to be put through this?

Raspewtin 10-14-2013 07:15 PM

if you thought NYR were bad. Buffalo hasn't had the lead. Once. This whole season. That's just indescribable.

McDonaghisGod 10-14-2013 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Raspewtin (Post 72604047)
if you thought NYR were bad. Buffalo hasn't had the lead. Once. This whole season. That's just indescribable.

They needed to bottom out. Like us they have never had much homegrown elite talent. That will probably change in the next couple of years.


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