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Beerfish 10-18-2013 12:33 PM

Kevin Lowes sorry record for the Oilers...
 
13 years
9 years missed playoffs
4 years playoffs made
In only one year has the team won a playoff series out of 13, the miracle cup run with Roloson stealing a couple of series and Pronger at his best.

Essentially he has had one good year as GM and even then I'm suspicious on how much he had to do with it.

Things could have even been worse if some of his brain child moves actually worked out (Heatley, Nylander)

This has been the one constant with this team. A guy with zero accountability running the show and thoroughly deluded into thinking he is doing a good job. He has been so used to be lofted softballs by the media over the years he goes off on a wild rant about tiers of fans and his 6 rings if even one media guy asks a tough question.

Forget the goalies.
Forget the GM.
Forget the coach.

Until we have any accountability and or competence from the top of this organization we are going no where. Too bad Katz is just a pure fan boy that gobbles up whatever is fed to him. People used to laugh at Wang and Snow, Snyder and Holmgren, Our combo is worse.

AlowlyMcOilersfan 10-18-2013 12:34 PM

oh, i thought he actually apologized publicly.

way to mislead =(

OneMoreAstronaut 10-18-2013 12:39 PM

Kevin Lowe's sorry? That WOULD be a record for the Oilers!

Boba Fettuccine 10-18-2013 12:39 PM



Kevin Lowe knows about winning , if there is ever a concern

Jean Ralphio 10-18-2013 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julius Caesar Milan (Post 72838193)

Kevin Lowe knows about winning , if there is ever a concern

Agreed. Until any of us wins 6 rings, it's unfair of us to comment.

jumptheshark 10-18-2013 12:46 PM

how many threads will we have on who is to blame

NewBoysClub97 10-18-2013 12:46 PM

That is so funny every time I watch it. He couldn't help, but add in his two cents.

Lets say Lowe comes out tonight and says he is done. Then what?

Sometimes I think it is too easy to just blame everything on Lowe. If Lowe quits tonight, what will happen?

Will the Gm change? Coach change?

Or is the big thing everybody questions is that possibly Lowe has Katz's ear and is giving him bad advice?

cyril* 10-18-2013 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julius Caesar Milan (Post 72838193)


Kevin Lowe knows about winning , if there is ever a concern

Yes he does.

He might know more about losing now though.

Beerfish 10-18-2013 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlowlyOilersfan (Post 72837963)
oh, i thought he actually apologized publicly.

way to mislead =(

Yes, in a totally half hearted way. After not being able to control his yap.

Beerfish 10-18-2013 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bozwell (Post 72838539)
how many threads will we have on who is to blame

This is the most important one. All other parts of the team have been shaped by him. All of it.

Beerfish 10-18-2013 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueChip01 (Post 72838545)
That is so funny every time I watch it. He couldn't help, but add in his two cents.

Lets say Lowe comes out tonight and says he is done. Then what?

Sometimes I think it is too easy to just blame everything on Lowe. If Lowe quits tonight, what will happen?

Will the Gm change? Coach change?

Or is the big thing everybody questions is that possibly Lowe has Katz's ear and is giving him bad advice?

Lowe gets virtually no blame in the grand scheme of things. None from the media and very little from the fans if you look at this forum regularly. We all talk about Renney or tambo or mact or macgregor or eakins.

cyril* 10-18-2013 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerfish (Post 72838989)
Lowe gets virtually no blame in the grand scheme of things. None from the media and very little from the fans if you look at this forum regularly. We all talk about Renney or tambo or mact or macgregor or eakins.

It has been seven years of no playoffs and you're going to get impatient now???

Typical tier 2 fan.

jumptheshark 10-18-2013 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerfish (Post 72838915)
This is the most important one. All other parts of the team have been shaped by him. All of it.

you have heard of this guy names KATZ? Him and his little fuzzy kids should get some of the blame

elmeroil 10-18-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bozwell (Post 72839789)
you have heard of this guy names KATZ? Him and his little fuzzy kids should get some of the blame

Exactly, the guy who should have fired Lowe long ago is the one to blame.

Mr Forever 10-18-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean Ralphio (Post 72838299)
Agreed. Until any of us wins 6 rings, it's unfair of us to comment.

Agreed. Until Gretzky and Messier win us six rings, it's unfair of us to comment.

Oil and Avs 10-18-2013 01:25 PM

Lowe has to go its as simple as that. Until then the oilers will be an old boys club and our failure will never change. Kevin Lowe is an arrogant ***** and has ruined any respect I had for him from his accomplishments as a player.

McShogun99 10-18-2013 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyril (Post 72839291)
It has been seven years of no playoffs and you're going to get impatient now???

Typical tier 2 fan.

Tier 1 fans get upset over 10 years of missed playoffs. We still got 3 years of rebuilding to go.

Digger12 10-18-2013 01:41 PM

"Is it me?"

Yes, Kevin. Yes it is, as sad as it is to say because I know you care about this franchise more than most.

GreatMcKeith 10-18-2013 01:43 PM

I could have sworn it was Horcoff's fault.

Soundwave 10-18-2013 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerfish (Post 72837907)
13 years
9 years missed playoffs
4 years playoffs made
In only one year has the team won a playoff series out of 13, the miracle cup run with Roloson stealing a couple of series and Pronger at his best.

Essentially he has had one good year as GM and even then I'm suspicious on how much he had to do with it.

Things could have even been worse if some of his brain child moves actually worked out (Heatley, Nylander)

This has been the one constant with this team. A guy with zero accountability running the show and thoroughly deluded into thinking he is doing a good job. He has been so used to be lofted softballs by the media over the years he goes off on a wild rant about tiers of fans and his 6 rings if even one media guy asks a tough question.

Forget the goalies.
Forget the GM.
Forget the coach.

Until we have any accountability and or competence from the top of this organization we are going no where. Too bad Katz is just a pure fan boy that gobbles up whatever is fed to him. People used to laugh at Wang and Snow, Snyder and Holmgren, Our combo is worse.

Amazing that people on this board still thumb their nose at Burke who has a far, far better overall track record and rebuilt the Leafs in a shorter time span with the benefit of zero top 3 picks.

Digger12 10-18-2013 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beerfish (Post 72837907)
Things could have even been worse if some of his brain child moves actually worked out (Heatley, Nylander)

For me, the biggest bullet we ever dodged was the Vanek offer sheet.

I can't even imagine what would've happened if Buffalo had decided not to match.

GreatMcKeith 10-18-2013 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soundwave (Post 72841255)
Amazing that people on this board still thumb their nose at Burke who has a far, far better overall track record and rebuilt the Leafs in a shorter time span with the benefit of zero top 3 picks.

One playoff appearance so far.

I've said numerous times that Burke cannot find a decent goalie and that is what we need most right now.

Beerfish 10-18-2013 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyril (Post 72839291)
It has been seven years of no playoffs and you're going to get impatient now???

Typical tier 2 fan.

I hated most of what he did before the 'rebuild'. One year after the salary cap in which he was gifted pronger, made some nice moves in getting roloson, spacek, that other dman...name started with a T. Other than that it's been pure disaster. But what you say is true, I am a tier 2 fan.

Beerfish 10-18-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreatKeith (Post 72841147)
I could have sworn it was Horcoff's fault.

Kevin Lowe handed a 3rd line plugger top dollar to go along with obscene term because his owner promised to spend to the cap and they utterly failed in all free agency and trade moves. As for Horcoff, seen his stat line now that he is truly getting 3rd line minutes and 3rd line linemates and no pp time in Dallas? 6 games, zero goals , zero assists, -4

Gone 10-18-2013 02:06 PM

You forgot Vanek. Imagine Ebb's, MPS, Hall and RNH on Buffalo.

Also, who really built the team that he took to the playoffs in 2000 to 2003. It wasn't KLowe, those were Sather built teams.

I've said since the beginning this guy destroyed the Oilers, and there is no hiding from it. His so called Chicago/Pitts style rebuild is clearly more a NYI, Florida style rebuild.


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