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Flyersfan731 10-23-2013 10:13 AM

Coots: Sean Couturier
 
So I know the kid is young and were high on him but do you guys think we might of had wasted the 8th pick on him he's misused put on the third line

Swic21 10-23-2013 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyersfan731 (Post 73096917)
So I know the kid is young and were high on him but do you guys think we might of had wasted the 8th pick on him he's misused put on the third line

Nope. He's on the 3rd line but so was Jordan Staal. They won a Stanley cup with Crosby Malkin and Staal down the middle. Coots may not stay with us forever but he will give us a solid 6-7 years.

Beef Invictus 10-23-2013 10:18 AM

Cup winning teams need at least one forward like Couturier projects to be.

BrindamoursNose 10-23-2013 10:28 AM

Couturier still has time. Even if he stops where he is now, he's a valuable piece to any winning team.

Flyersfan731 10-23-2013 10:31 AM

Yea but the 8th pick shouldn't be a third liner

JDinkalage Morgoone 10-23-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyersfan731 (Post 73097529)
Yea but the 8th pick shouldn't be a third liner

How about having 2 seasons under his belt by age 20? He's got all the tools to be an elite defensive forward, which is a HUGE asset. He had offense in juniors, it's all about confidence at this point. I think he has all the right stuff to be a Patrice Bergeron type if he reaches his ceiling. At the very worst, he stays at what he is, which is a great roleplayer. Jarrett Stoll, with better offense?

JDinkalage Morgoone 10-23-2013 10:37 AM

I will say that it does hurt that the next 2 picks were Dougie Hamilton and Jonas Brodin, who are also with the big club already and logging good minutes on the blueline. They look pretty good. I don't disagree with the Coots pick, considering he was projected #1 at varying points in the season before getting mono.

Curufinwe 10-23-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyersfan731 (Post 73097529)
Yea but the 8th pick shouldn't be a third liner

Says who? Of course Couturrier is going to be on the third line in Philly with Giroux, Lecavalier and Schenn ahead of him.

Strome and Scheifele barely played in the first two seasons after they were drafted.

Akanon 10-23-2013 11:06 AM

Wasted the 8th pick on him.... How about no?

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Beef Invictus 10-23-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyersfan731 (Post 73097529)
Yea but the 8th pick shouldn't be a third liner

You're confusing the 8th pick with the 1st. Once you get out of the top 3 smashing superstar success is far from guaranteed. If he can turn into a Staal type guy (before he started mailing it in) it's a pick well used.

captainpaxil 10-23-2013 12:05 PM

i think hes going to turn it around if they keep him with read and simmonds. this is effectively his rookie year playing 3c and should give us a better sense of his offensive upside

Prongo 10-23-2013 12:16 PM

Once he actually starts using that 6'4 frame of his down low and to protect the puck in the offensive zone, he will be a great player. We just have to wait till someone shows him this is how you need to play to succeed.

Flyersfan731 10-23-2013 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Prongo (Post 73101695)
Once he actually starts using that 6'4 frame of his down low and to protect the puck in the offensive zone, he will be a great player. We just have to wait till someone shows him this is how you need to play to succeed.


Well damn how long does that take to understand

Beef Invictus 10-23-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyersfan731 (Post 73101933)
Well damn how long does that take to understand

He's still something like 4-5 years away from his physical prime.

Legion of Goon 10-23-2013 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BrindamoursNose (Post 73097393)
Couturier still has time. Even if he stops where he is now, he's a valuable piece to any winning team.

I have the same view as Nose

Flyersfan731 10-23-2013 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Invictus (Post 73102377)
He's still something like 4-5 years away from his physical prime.

This is true I'm just a lil worried he look wonderful his first year but is looking terrible right now

JDinkalage Morgoone 10-23-2013 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Invictus (Post 73102377)
He's still something like 4-5 years away from his physical prime.

24 years old is your physical prime?

*looks at self*

*pours bleach into coffee mug*

Beef Invictus 10-23-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyersfan731 (Post 73103081)
This is true I'm just a lil worried he look wonderful his first year but is looking terrible right now

Lavi destroyed his confidence. He's been great on defense, but he's playing very reluctantly on offense. He will turn it around in time.

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Originally Posted by JDinklage Morgoone (Post 73103215)
24 years old is your physical prime?

*looks at self*

*pours bleach into coffee mug*

Technically it's 27ish, then it's typically downhill from there.

Also, Krokodil is the new bleach.

Flyersfan731 10-23-2013 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Invictus (Post 73104159)
Lavi destroyed his confidence. He's been great on defense, but he's playing very reluctantly on offense. He will turn it around in time.



Technically it's 27ish, then it's typically downhill from there.


Also, Krokodil is the new bleach.


So he only has 2 years after his prime ouch

JDinkalage Morgoone 10-23-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Invictus (Post 73104159)
Lavi destroyed his confidence. He's been great on defense, but he's playing very reluctantly on offense. He will turn it around in time.



Technically it's 27ish, then it's typically downhill from there.

Also, Krokodil is the new bleach.

I'm 24 and am in peak eating shape. Krokodil on the rocks, please.

HighOFFHockey 10-23-2013 01:26 PM

You do realize hes 20 right? Mike Richards didn't even make the team at the same age...Just give him some time to grow up. Also the team as a whole has looked bad. Wait till they get out of this mess and this kid will become heavily relied upon to stop top line wingers.

Beef Invictus 10-23-2013 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JDinklage Morgoone (Post 73104613)
I'm 24 and am in peak eating shape. Krokodil on the rocks, please.

Krokodil will help you drop a lot of excess weight. It will literally fall off. As in, parts of your body will detach.

jabba2 10-23-2013 01:47 PM

Seems like a confidence issue. Have no idea how he gets it back. He looked like a future star as a rookie, so you know the potential is there. Hm and most of the team are at rock bottom right now. They can only go up.

Stizzle 10-23-2013 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Flyersfan731 (Post 73103081)
This is true I'm just a lil worried he look wonderful his first year but is looking terrible right now

First off, pretty much every forward on the team looks offensively terrible right now. When this happens, it's probably a system/coaching thing, not the players. I strongly believe this is what happened last year as well. The league adjusted to Lavvy, and Lavvy could never counter adjust. So don't just put in on Couts shoulders.

Secondly, relax. He is going to be wonderful. As others have pointed out, he is the type of player you need to win championships. Players with similar skill sets to Couts don't grow on trees.

His offense will come. He just needs to regain his confidence. As does every other forward on this team. Hopefully Berube keeps him on a line with Read/Simmonds-calibur of players. If he uses him a la Lavvy, with Rinaldo-types, he may be screwed. The Flyers need to make a commitment to Couts offensive development.

Boxscore 10-23-2013 02:42 PM

If Couturier doesn't improve his skating he'll be nothing more than a less tough Wayne (not Keith) Primeau. This is all on him.


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