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Rabbit 10-30-2013 02:54 AM

David Rundblad
 
Is something up here? What's the rumor of him "running off?"

Did we finally push him to his limits? If we did, I don't blame him. It's a damn shame if we let another one bite the dust. Each game he sits in the pressbox, another day pf development goes away. Each game he sits in the pressbox, his trade value goes down.

Make a decision here Don.

CC96 10-30-2013 03:00 AM

Hopefully he's still alive.

Sceva Sct 10-30-2013 03:08 AM

Posted it in another thread but McLellan said she talked to him today and will have something about him tomorrow.

Skinnyjimmy08 10-30-2013 08:26 AM

What??? rumors of him leaving? like as in heading back to europe? or leaving as in getting traded?.... Phoenix management handled this horrible IMO... First of all I couldnt believe they signed him to a 1 way deal this year, seeing they have soooo many 1 way dman contracts (still think it should have been a 2 year deal, 1st year 2 way, 2nd year 1 way).. And then after his brilliant preseason, I think that would have been the time to trade him. And now what is it... 9 games or so in a row as a healthy scratch???I dont blame him what so ever for wanting to leave, but cant phoenix trade him for even a 3rd rounder or something to a struggling team that could take a chance on a potential PP specialist?? atleast get something for him!!!.. I am sure there are a ton of teams that would give up a pick like that for him..

Primrose Everdeen 10-30-2013 10:01 AM

This thread prompted me to brave the main trade board and post a "value of David Rundblad" thread.

Expecting some ridiculous answers and some reasonable ones, as usual. Could be interesting.

rt 10-30-2013 10:50 AM

Isn't Schlemko injured? And Klesla? Looks like it's his turn.

It would be a shame if he demanded a trade and flew back to Sweden just days before his opportunity came up.

I wouldn't blame him, though. If I were David Rundblad, I'd demand a trade.

I don't even really blame Dave Tippett. Offense from our blueline has been in surplus. What we've lacked on the back-end is defensive reliability. It makes sense to do what Tippett has done.

That said, from an asset management/greater long-term good of the franchise stand-point, Don Maloney really botched this. It makes sense for Dave Tippett to choose Schlemko over Rundblad. It does not make sense for Maloney to do the same. Rundblad is the the better long-term asset and he should've taken this decision out of DT's hands one way or another. Either parlay the asset into something else by trading Rundlbad, or trade Schlemko and effectively force DT to play Rundblad, without directly ordering him to. Both men maintain autonomy this way and there is less of a conflict of interest, sort of issue.

I hope Rundblad hasn't run off and demanded a trade. If he hasn't, I wonder why not.

Kimahri 10-30-2013 11:22 AM

What rumors of him "running off? Is this thread started from the joke comment in the Anaheim Galaxy GDT about Rundblad "running from the scene" of Schlemko getting hurt?

cobra427 10-30-2013 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rt (Post 73510987)
Isn't Schlemko injured? And Klesla? Looks like it's his turn.

It would be a shame if he demanded a trade and flew back to Sweden just days before his opportunity came up.

I wouldn't blame him, though. If I were David Rundblad, I'd demand a trade.

I don't even really blame Dave Tippett. Offense from our blueline has been in surplus. What we've lacked on the back-end is defensive reliability. It makes sense to do what Tippett has done.

That said, from an asset management/greater long-term good of the franchise stand-point, Don Maloney really botched this. It makes sense for Dave Tippett to choose Schlemko over Rundblad. It does not make sense for Maloney to do the same. Rundblad is the the better long-term asset and he should've taken this decision out of DT's hands one way or another. Either parlay the asset into something else by trading Rundlbad, or trade Schlemko and effectively force DT to play Rundblad, without directly ordering him to. Both men maintain autonomy this way and there is less of a conflict of interest, sort of issue.

I hope Rundblad hasn't run off and demanded a trade. If he hasn't, I wonder why not.

Agreed, Dmo, OEL, and Yandle are top 15 for D scoring, so our strength is what Runblad would offer. DM will make the right move when it presents itself. Runblad had to know he could possibly sit with the depth of our D before he signed the contract. If Schlemko is hurt, he might get his chance now. No need for DM to give him away for a second or third round pick, he signed a contract, gets to honor it now...

Naurutger 10-30-2013 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimahri (Post 73512455)
What rumors of him "running off? Is this thread started from the joke comment in the Anaheim Galaxy GDT about Rundblad "running from the scene" of Schlemko getting hurt?

I hope that some drunk guys joke didn't create a rumor. But seriously this guy needs to get in.

XX 10-30-2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobra427 (Post 73514351)
he signed a contract, gets to honor it now...

This doesn't help the oganization's image when it comes to young players. Rundblad lead the team in points during the preseason, yet can't even get into a game for ten straight games. Are you kidding me? What could he have possibly done to draw such ire from Tippett? I'm not a big sympathize with trade demands but it would be warranted in this instance. He can't develop and have a career in the pressbox.

I don't buy the "we have plenty of offense right now" argument. Rundblad can move the puck and that helps you keep the puck. He isn't measurably worse than Stone or Schlemko in his own end.

I hope Sara's story sheds some light on this.

cobra427 10-30-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by XX (Post 73514667)
This doesn't help the oganization's image when it comes to young players. Rundblad lead the team in points during the preseason, yet can't even get into a game for ten straight games. Are you kidding me? What could he have possibly done to draw such ire from Tippett? I'm not a big sympathize with trade demands but it would be warranted in this instance. He can't develop and have a career in the pressbox.

I don't buy the "we have plenty of offense right now" argument. Rundblad can move the puck and that helps you keep the puck. He isn't measurably worse than Stone or Schlemko in his own end.

I hope Sara's story sheds some light on this.

Name 2 defensemen on one team you would take over OEL and Yandle? We might have the top 2 in the NHL. No image problems developing young D men. Pre-season points don't really matter. We all know he can get points. He needed to be, and still needs to be, more solid defensively, and make less mistakes, and he is worse then Stone or Schlemko in his own end. He clearly is better then both offensively, so he must be way worse defensively or he would be playing. I do agree that he can't develop in the press box, but he can learn in practice and he might just have to be patient for now. If Schlemko is hurt, he might get a shot now.

I like Runblad a lot and I think he will be a top 4, maybe top 2 D in a few years. But, I totally see why Tip has not played him yet and playing him, if he is complaining or asking to be traded is the wrong answer. Runblads own improvement, injuries, or a trade, and he will be playing on a regular basis, patience....

Sceva Sct 10-30-2013 12:26 PM

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/coyo...-troubles.html

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“I don’t want to just be here and practice,” Rundblad said. “Every guy wants to play as much as they can, so of course it’s a little bit frustrating. But I can’t do anything about it right now, just keep working hard and hopefully I get the chance.”

Tippett said it’s possible Rundblad plays while Klesla is on injured reserve.

“We’ve been keeping close tabs on him,” Tippett said. “Right now it’s a little bit about the mix with what we have. It’s partly left-right shot mix, and it’s partly defender versus puck mover. We’ve been kind of looking for that happy medium all the time.”

....

“It’s not much I can do, I guess,” Rundblad said. “I just try working hard every practice like I’ve been doing, like (Tuesday) do some extra skating, just try to be as ready as I can be by just practicing hard and do everything the right way.”

Sindiggy 10-30-2013 12:31 PM

Good on the kid for saying the right things.

We all know that he isn't a Tipp type player so the onus is on GMDM to move him to a team that can use his offensive talents and we can get back an asset that will help push our group forward.

You can tell he's frustrated and I would be too if I couldn't get into a game or two over a 10 game stretch. C'mon GMDM and pull a trade off...you could certainly fleece Holmgren for Read.

XX 10-30-2013 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobra427 (Post 73515529)
and he is worse then Stone or Schlemko in his own end. He clearly is better then both offensively, so he must be way worse defensively or he would be playing.

Not sound logic. There's no excuse for healthy scratching an important part of the organization for ten consecutive games.

cobra427 10-30-2013 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sceva Sct (Post 73515583)

I think Tip gives him a shot Thursday. I saw a Tip presser here recently and he commented about Schlemko and Stone having issues in there own end. It sounds like he has the right attitude...

cobra427 10-30-2013 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sindiggy (Post 73515865)
Good on the kid for saying the right things.

We all know that he isn't a Tipp type player so the onus is on GMDM to move him to a team that can use his offensive talents and we can get back an asset that will help push our group forward.

You can tell he's frustrated and I would be too if I couldn't get into a game or two over a 10 game stretch. C'mon GMDM and pull a trade off...you could certainly fleece Holmgren for Read.

Reminds me of Yandle, he has done ok playing for Tip...

cobra427 10-30-2013 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XX (Post 73515915)
Not sound logic. There's no excuse for healthy scratching an important part of the organization for ten consecutive games.

The only logic I can find behind Tip's decisions is winning....

XX 10-30-2013 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobra427 (Post 73516131)
The only logic I can find behind Tip's decisions is winning....

Winning now can come at the expense of winning more later. You're welcome to defend his shoddy developmental abilities when it comes to offensive talent. Together we can pretend like it wasn't part of why he was on the market and available to the Coyotes in the first place. Rundblad needs to play, even if it means he is a horrible trainwreck on the ice. At least you know what you have and can plan off of it.

Playfair works with the D primarily, by the way.

_Del_ 10-30-2013 12:55 PM

Yandle and Schlemko were both frightening when they began here. Rundblad has looked less dreadful than I remember either of those two starting. It's hard to understand why he hasn't at least made an appearance once or twice.

Jakey53 10-30-2013 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobra427 (Post 73514351)
Agreed, Dmo, OEL, and Yandle are top 15 for D scoring, so our strength is what Runblad would offer. DM will make the right move when it presents itself. Runblad had to know he could possibly sit with the depth of our D before he signed the contract. If Schlemko is hurt, he might get his chance now. No need for DM to give him away for a second or third round pick, he signed a contract, gets to honor it now...

You are correct Sir.

Jakey53 10-30-2013 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cobra427 (Post 73515917)
I think Tip gives him a shot Thursday. I saw a Tip presser here recently and he commented about Schlemko and Stone having issues in there own end. It sounds like he has the right attitude...

I think he does also. I thought Stone was our weakest Dman in the LA game.

Jakey53 10-30-2013 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sindiggy (Post 73515865)
Good on the kid for saying the right things.

We all know that he isn't a Tipp type player so the onus is on GMDM to move him to a team that can use his offensive talents and we can get back an asset that will help push our group forward.

You can tell he's frustrated and I would be too if I couldn't get into a game or two over a 10 game stretch. C'mon GMDM and pull a trade off...you could certainly fleece Holmgren for Read.

Rundblad is not worth much on the market right now. We just need patience and everything will sort itself out.

Jakey53 10-30-2013 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Del_ (Post 73517051)
Yandle and Schlemko were both frightening when they began here. Rundblad has looked less dreadful than I remember either of those two starting. It's hard to understand why he hasn't at least made an appearance once or twice.

And they both still are sometimes.:)

Naych_PHX 10-30-2013 01:07 PM

Tipp isnt even dressing 7 d to get rundblad in the lineup. We call up kennedy n swarz instead. Its rare but he has dressed 7 d before and you would think now would be the time.

Jakey53 10-30-2013 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rt (Post 73510987)
Isn't Schlemko injured? And Klesla? Looks like it's his turn.

It would be a shame if he demanded a trade and flew back to Sweden just days before his opportunity came up.

I wouldn't blame him, though. If I were David Rundblad, I'd demand a trade.

I don't even really blame Dave Tippett. Offense from our blueline has been in surplus. What we've lacked on the back-end is defensive reliability. It makes sense to do what Tippett has done.

That said, from an asset management/greater long-term good of the franchise stand-point, Don Maloney really botched this. It makes sense for Dave Tippett to choose Schlemko over Rundblad. It does not make sense for Maloney to do the same. Rundblad is the the better long-term asset and he should've taken this decision out of DT's hands one way or another. Either parlay the asset into something else by trading Rundlbad, or trade Schlemko and effectively force DT to play Rundblad, without directly ordering him to. Both men maintain autonomy this way and there is less of a conflict of interest, sort of issue.

I hope Rundblad hasn't run off and demanded a trade. If he hasn't, I wonder why not.

I think you are jumping to conclusions here. I think Rundblad knows he is close to playing full time. Most times European players are not as spoiled as NA players and h ave a pretty good head on their shoulders. DM and DT are pretty close knit, so I don't think DM will be forcing DT to do anything player wise.


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