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Identity404 11-05-2013 10:36 PM

Anyone Else Getting Worried About Skinner?
 
Skinner will be out with a mysterious "upper body injury" for two weeks assuming he doesn't play against the Islanders on Thursday. Apparently he was in NY getting a second medical opinion on whatever is incapacitating him on Monday. I think we are all assuming he is out with some type of hand or wrist injury because he was last seen holding it in pain, but I am a little worried it could be another concussion. It seems a little odd to get a second opinion about a hand injury. Lets not all forget that Muller and Co. flat out lied last year about Skinner not having a concussion.

garnetpalmetto 11-05-2013 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Identity404 (Post 73902585)
Skinner will be out with a mysterious "upper body injury" for two weeks assuming he doesn't play against the Islanders on Thursday. Apparently he was in NY getting a second medical opinion on whatever is incapacitating him on Monday. I think we are all assuming he is out with some type of hand or wrist injury because he was last seen holding it in pain, but I am a little worried it could be another concussion. It seems a little odd to get a second opinion about a hand injury. Lets not all forget that Muller and Co. flat out lied last year about Skinner not having a concussion.

Not really. Back in my workers' comp days, we had a client get a second, even a third opinion on a hand injury - the initial treating doctor's opinion, our expert's opinion, and then the defense's expert. Beyond that as others have said who were at the STH event, Skinner was there and not signing anything, but was taking pictures with cameras that had their flashes on. That points to wrist, not concussion.

tarheelhockey 11-05-2013 10:45 PM

Why would it be weirder to request a second opinion for a wrist injury than for any other injury?

hctimo787 11-05-2013 10:46 PM

Yeah, and the concern is growing with each passing day. Pretty sure a couple people had posted that Forslund stated radio post-game that it's his hand/wrist/arm and I think most people saw him holding his hand when he left that game. But a second opinion on an arm injury? Seems strange to me.

<speculate>Maybe he just doesn't trust Raleigh Ortho (or whoever) after a previous visit? Didn't like the rehab/treatment? Friesen issues?</speculate>

Could be a million things; could be nothing. Please GOD just don't let it be his melon. He's just a kid.

edit: nevermind, taking tinfoil hat off now. I guess what really seems weird is that we're hearing about it. I can't remember the last time I heard about a hockey player getting a second opinion.

SweetStormRising 11-05-2013 10:50 PM

I think it is a hand/wrist. He wasn't allowed to sign autographs as the season ticket holder party last week. He was only available for pictures.

garnetpalmetto 11-05-2013 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by hctimo787 (Post 73903307)
Yeah, and the concern is growing with each passing day. Pretty sure a couple people had posted that Forslund stated radio post-game that it's his hand/wrist/arm and I think most people saw him holding his hand when he left that game. But a second opinion on an arm injury? Seems strange to me.

<speculate>Maybe he just doesn't trust Raleigh Ortho (or whoever) after a previous visit? Didn't like the rehab/treatment? Friesen issues?</speculate>


Could be a million things; could be nothing. Please GOD just don't let it be his melon. He's just a kid.

edit: nevermind, taking tinfoil hat off now. I guess what really seems weird is that we're hearing about it. I can't remember the last time I heard about a hockey player getting a second opinion.

Again, not weird at all to get a second opinion on a wrist/arm injury. Also, one can get a second opinion within the same practice. Dr. Isbell's the team ortho and from what I've heard, he's good, but his specialty is shoulders and knees. It could be that either Skinner or the team wanted a second opinion with someone at Raleigh Ortho who's more of a wrist or hand specialist like Dr. Tuttle.

Identity404 11-06-2013 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tarheelhockey (Post 73903245)
Why would it be weirder to request a second opinion for a wrist injury than for any other injury?

I didn't think the second opinion itself was odd, just the fact that that I read on twitter the other day that he was in NY to get it. I would think there would be plenty of qualified specialists in the area that he could go to if it was just a wrist injury. The brain is the most complex organ in the body, and I could see the logic in someone wanting to travel to go to a leading doctor in the country for a second opinion on a brain injury. But I just realized that he did travel with the team to NY this past weekend for the game against the rangers, so I guess he just stayed behind...

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Originally Posted by garnetpalmetto (Post 73902893)
Beyond that as others have said who were at the STH event, Skinner was there and not signing anything, but was taking pictures with cameras that had their flashes on. That points to wrist, not concussion.

Yeah, that would also lead me to believe it's a wrist injury. Now that i'm thinking about it, I don't think people are advised to fly when they have concussions as well.

Case closed I suppose..

halleJOKEL 11-06-2013 07:56 AM

glad we got this mystery *~solved~*

case closed

What the Faulk 11-06-2013 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Identity404 (Post 73913485)
I didn't think the second opinion itself was odd, just the fact that that I read on twitter the other day that he was in NY to get it. I would think there would be plenty of qualified specialists in the area that he could go to if it was just a wrist injury. The brain is the most complex organ in the body, and I could see the logic in someone wanting to travel to go to a leading doctor in the country for a second opinion on a brain injury. But I just realized that he did travel with the team to NY this past weekend for the game against the rangers, so I guess he just stayed behind...

No different than everyone flocking to Dr. James Andrews for whatever ails you.

Chrispy 11-06-2013 08:41 AM

I don't find it odd at all that a young goal-scoring phenom wants to see a specialist about a wrist injury. We're all worried about concussions because of the league focus and Skinner's history, but few things could impact Skinner's goal-scoring, and hence his career, more than a wrist injury that is handled poorly.

Identity404 11-06-2013 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by halleJOKEL (Post 73914309)
glad we got this mystery *~solved~*

case closed

I don't think it is moronic to speculate that Skinner could have had another concussion based on his injury history and the organizations ambiguous injury classification. Not to mention the fact that they have flat out lied when Skinner had a concussion last season.

Thanks to input from valuable contributors this board (not you) I feel much better that it is indeed a wrist/hand injury.

garnetpalmetto 11-06-2013 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Identity404 (Post 73915431)
I don't think it is moronic to speculate that Skinner could have had another concussion based on his injury history and the organizations ambiguous injury classification. Not to mention the fact that they have flat out lied when Skinner had a concussion last season.

Thanks to input from valuable contributors this board (not you) I feel much better that it is indeed a wrist/hand injury.

I can definitely understand that given the past "Concussion, what concussion?" stance of the team - that said I may be completely misremembering but the second go-around didn't they initially think he may have had a stomach virus since there was one going around the team at the time he was concussed and it was only after he should have been over it that they thought "Uh oh?" If that was the case I'm willing to give them a partial excuse on that one. The first go-around, not so much.

And hey, no need to feel ashamed about asking. I was just happy that one of the bits of knowledge I picked up in workers' comp was actually of use! It actually made me feel like a knowledgeable member of the board like I was Vagrant or something!

tarheelhockey 11-06-2013 08:58 AM

I think we can call this discussion complete. Will re-open if anything new emerges.


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