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theFiGS 11-10-2013 09:52 PM

The we are over the hump thread
 
17 games into the season we finally have a winning record and wouldn't you know it we are only 6 points out of first in the conference. This team is looking good this was a good win that we were supposed to win. We are doing all this without our best player so what happens when he comes back? I see
Hagelin Richards Nash
Kreider stepan zucc
Miller brassard Callahan
Pouliot Boyle dorsett

This could be the deepest we have looked in awhile.

Megustaelhockey 11-10-2013 10:05 PM

There are no humps until playoff qualification. This is a little jinxy!

http://www.cartoonscrapbook.com/02pi...-dixie_L17.jpg

EvilCorporateLawyer 11-10-2013 10:18 PM

No Richards and Nash. They do not go well together.

bettercallstaal 11-10-2013 10:30 PM

I can't recall the last time we looked this dangerous offensively. Also, our PP aint half bad either.

bmw2004 11-10-2013 10:33 PM

I liked the performance tonight

Thirty One 11-10-2013 10:39 PM

Hump thread, pls

Tonight was kinda scary, but you have to be happy with the trend.

Blue Blooded 11-10-2013 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan. (Post 74186791)
No Richards and Nash. They do not go well together.

Richards didn't work well with anyone last season. Hagelin and Nash OTOH worked fantastically last season, and with the chances Hagelin is currently creating I want Nash on his line.

I think that line could work very well.

jacko23 11-10-2013 11:00 PM

i wouldnt get my hopes too inflated. the Kreider-Step-Zucc line probably isnt the next FLY line or GAG line but if they are, ill be very thankful. i just dont see them keeping it up. if they cool off, i see us returning back to a modest (but still winning) hockey team who still has trouble scoring goals.

Blueblood9 11-10-2013 11:46 PM

Need to ask this question at this point are we better off with AV rather then torts?


After the past few games i have to say hell yeah. The D is playing as good as it has under torts and its less dangerous, this offense is creative and looks to finally be clicking. I havnt seen an offense click like this in years coming from the rangers.

This team is fun to watch and i can see them soaring

Thirty One 11-10-2013 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jacko23 (Post 74190223)
i wouldnt get my hopes too inflated. the Kreider-Step-Zucc line probably isnt the next FLY line or GAG line but if they are, ill be very thankful. i just dont see them keeping it up. if they cool off, i see us returning back to a modest (but still winning) hockey team who still has trouble scoring goals.

http://dc480.4shared.com/img/hIkPhV8...8b8/Eeyore.gif

JeffMangum 11-10-2013 11:52 PM

Hagelin-Richards-Nash
Kreider-Stepan-Zuccarello
Boyle-Miller-Callahan
Pouliot/D. Moore-Brassard-Dorsett

SnowblindNYR 11-11-2013 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB v2 Chiefs (Post 74192579)
Hagelin-Richards-Nash
Kreider-Stepan-Zuccarello
Boyle-Miller-Callahan
Pouliot/D. Moore-Brassard-Dorsett

Why are you putting Boyle and Miller on the 3rd line? We're going to have 2 3rd lines.

Machinehead 11-11-2013 12:05 AM

McDonagh for Norris AINEC.

SnowblindNYR 11-11-2013 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueblood9 (Post 74192409)
Need to ask this question at this point are we better off with AV rather then torts?


After the past few games i have to say hell yeah. The D is playing as good as it has under torts and its less dangerous, this offense is creative and looks to finally be clicking. I havnt seen an offense click like this in years coming from the rangers.

This team is fun to watch and i can see them soaring

The D looked shaky today but people forget that the D looked shaky often under Torts even in 11-12.

JeffMangum 11-11-2013 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnowblindNYR (Post 74192979)
Why are you putting Boyle and Miller on the 3rd line? We're going to have 2 3rd lines.

I suppose you could put Miller at wing and move Brassard up, but I'd like to see Miller at center with Callahan on his right.

The more likely scenario is Miller being sent down and this being assembled:

Hagelin-Richards-Nash
Kreider-Stepan-Zuccarello
Pouliot-Brassard-Callahan
Boyle-D.Moore-Dorsett

Blueblood9 11-11-2013 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnowblindNYR (Post 74193025)
The D looked shaky today but people forget that the D looked shaky often under Torts even in 11-12.

Going from a zone type shot blocking to a more of a man to man there will be shaky games. But the o looks good enough to overcome a shaky d performance every so often

Emptyvoid 11-11-2013 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB v2 Chiefs (Post 74193043)
I suppose you could put Miller at wing and move Brassard up, but I'd like to see Miller at center with Callahan on his right.

The more likely scenario is Miller being sent down and this being assembled:

Hagelin-Richards-Nash
Kreider-Stepan-Zuccarello
Pouliot-Brassard-Callahan
Boyle-D.Moore-Dorsett

Maybe it's just me but Pouliot makes that third line look bad. Such innate abilities, 10 cent tool box.

darko 11-11-2013 12:10 AM

Don't want Brassard on the 4th line. Also as soon as Nash is back I want him on Brassard line.

JeffMangum 11-11-2013 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blueblood9 (Post 74193113)
Going from a zone type shot blocking to a more of a man to man there will be shaky games. But the o looks good enough to overcome a shaky d performance every so often

This. Also, every team is going to have shaky performances on D. The important thing is overcoming this by being able to keep up with the team exploiting your D. The Rangers did that tonight.

Boom Boom Geoffrion* 11-11-2013 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB v2 Chiefs (Post 74192579)
Hagelin-Richards-Nash
Kreider-Stepan-Zuccarello
Boyle-Miller-Callahan
Pouliot/D. Moore-Brassard-Dorsett

Counter

Hagelin-Stepan-Nash
Kreider-Richards-Callahan
Pouliot-Brassard-Zuccarello
Boyle-Moore-Dorsett

JeffMangum 11-11-2013 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RussianRangersFan (Post 74193163)
Maybe it's just me but Pouliot makes that third line look bad. Such innate abilities, 10 cent tool box.

He's a bit of a weak spot. When he's on his game, he fits that line pretty well. But he's rarely on his game.

Oh well, what do you expect from a player like Poops?

I might be in the minority, but I feel like AV and co are trying to turn Brassard into a viable, two-way third line C. IMO, he's been improving his defensive game over the past few games and cutting out the idiotic blind passes and pointless turnovers. He's chipping the puck in and working his ass off. I don't think he's played poorly, but Richards/Stepan are player very well, so he's stuck behind those two, playing with two bottom-6 players (Pouliot, who is a blackhole for 85% of his ice time, and Dorsett, who creates chances, but isn't exactly loaded with skill). Hopefully he can get back to winning faceoffs like he was after the trade last year. Would be a big help.

Either way, Nash coming back gives Brassard a legitimate finisher on his line, whether it be Nash or Cally.

JeffMangum 11-11-2013 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boom Boom Geoffrion (Post 74193381)
Counter

Hagelin-Stepan-Nash
Kreider-Richards-Callahan
Pouliot-Brassard-Zuccarello
Boyle-Moore-Dorsett

That third line is ugly. Don't like that grouping of players. Zuccarello needs to be in the top-6, IMO, over Callahan, who does most of his scoring on the PP, anyway.

Emptyvoid 11-11-2013 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB v2 Chiefs (Post 74193417)
He's a bit of a weak spot. When he's on his game, he fits that line pretty well. But he's rarely on his game.

Oh well, what do you expect from a player like Poops?

I might be in the minority, but I feel like AV and co are trying to turn Brassard into a viable, two-way third line C. IMO, he's been improving his defensive game over the past few games and cutting out the idiotic blind passes and pointless turnovers. He's chipping the puck in and working his ass off. I don't think he's played poorly, but Richards/Stepan are player very well, so he's stuck behind those two, playing with two bottom-6 players (Pouliot, who is a blackhole for 85% of his ice time, and Dorsett, who creates chances, but isn't exactly loaded with skill). Hopefully he can get back to winning faceoffs like he was after the trade last year. Would be a big help.

Either way, Nash coming back gives Brassard a legitimate finisher on his line, whether it be Nash or Cally.

I just want to add to that point. I feel AV is so much prudent and purposeful when he decides to bench or demote someone. He has a clear message that he wants to send and then gives the player another chance to prove himself (ala Zucc). I feel his method is so much more effective and hopefully will do good things for Brassard.

Torts, on the other hand, it happened so often that it became a situation where players would be afraid to make a mistake and be thrown in the dog house.

Boom Boom Geoffrion* 11-11-2013 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BB v2 Chiefs (Post 74193443)
That third line is ugly. Don't like that grouping of players. Zuccarello needs to be in the top-6, IMO, over Callahan, who does most of his scoring on the PP, anyway.

I see three lines that can sustain constant pressure and exploit most teams defense pairings. Brassard will get going. He's had success with MZA. Replace Pouliett with Miller if you're feeling frisky. Or Boyle if you want something more competent defensively.

Killem Dafoe 11-11-2013 12:58 AM

Kreider Stepan Nash

That's a line I can get behind.


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