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beenhereandthere 11-16-2013 08:16 PM

Those that can't get RDS: How do you all feel about the so called HNIC?
 
I am in the States and I find it disgusting, that the decision makers that be, forget that there's another team in Canada, that's almost as popular as the Leafs.
It's always been this way, even, when up until last year, the Leafs basically sucked and the Canadiens, usually made the playoffs, even if they lost in the 1st round most of the time.
There doesn't seem to be enough outrage, to have it even 2/3rds Leafs games and 1/3 Habs or even Ottawa.
I mean, if the Yankees were on the MLB game of the week in the States, every Saturday and the Red Sox were not, would you all think that would go over well?
Buffalo and Toronto, over the Habs and the Rangers for all except those near or in Quebec?:shakehead
Or, do most Habs fans figure, since they can watch the games on RDS, that it's not that big a deal, even if, you tune down the sound and listen to English radio?

Noob616 11-16-2013 08:45 PM

The Leafs just dwarf every other team for TV ratings in English. The Habs have a ton of support too but a large portion won't watch games in English on CBC regardless, truth be told I hardly ever watch the games on CBC even if it's available, I know enough French that I'd rather watch RDS even if they're massive homers at times. The Leafs and Bruins ratings last year in the playoffs were significantly higher than Habs-Sens, even with two Canadian team fanbases the language split for the Habs and the sheer size of the Leafs TV market was too much. It's annoying as a Habs fan to have a publicly funded "national" broadcaster that has such a hard on for the Leafs, but it's just not worth getting worked up for anymore. I'd rather just watch the games on RDS instead.

macavoy 11-16-2013 08:48 PM

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macavoy 11-16-2013 08:55 PM

OP,

I live in Texas and I bought the NHL package from Comcast, tonight is the 2nd night that the Habs game wasn't televised. I think this time it was because it was too far down the list of games that could be on the channels here, last time it was blacked out.

I paid $160 so I could listen to the english games. I could have bought Center Ice but I chose to get it on my TV instead and overall I'm happy with the decision becuase I never have to worry about stream quality.

I'm watching a decent stream tonight online http://freecast.in/ch1.html

Sports1131 11-16-2013 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macavoy (Post 74521117)
OP,

I live in Texas and I bought the NHL package from Comcast, tonight is the 2nd night that the Habs game wasn't televised. I think this time it was because it was too far down the list of games that could be on the channels here, last time it was blacked out.

I paid $160 so I could listen to the english games. I could have bought Center Ice but I chose to get it on my TV instead and overall I'm happy with the decision becuase I never have to worry about stream quality.

I'm watching a decent stream tonight online http://freecast.in/ch1.html

It's not on Center Ice tonight because it's being broadcast on the NHL Network.

yoyo999 11-16-2013 09:02 PM

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Leafs command more advertising dollars because as mentioned they generate higher ratings.

Hab fans have an option on which channel they want to watch the game. Leafs fans across canada have to watch it on CBC so everyone is funnelled to one network.

Hockey night in Canada used to be on in French on SRC, the french CBC so they technically were on nationally every Saturday. I live in the GTA and know several Torontonians who say they'd regularly flip back and forth.

if I'm not mistaken, even Quebec would get the leafs on CBC as their 7pm game. Please correct that if it's wrong though.

attachetatuque 11-16-2013 09:03 PM

honestly, as much as I need full coverage of the Habs, RDS is pure garbage man. I have to watch the games through them when at home because my parents switched to the "french" package of Bell Expressvu not too long ago. I was vexed to say the least
90% of their panel is a complete joke.

donghabs98 11-16-2013 09:04 PM

Being a Habs fan in Nova Scotia, it sucks that if the Leafs are playing on a Saturday Night then that's the only game I see on CBC :shakehead

hockeyfan2k11 11-16-2013 09:49 PM

CBC doesn't give a poop about anyone or anything but $$$. It is what it is.

M.C.G. 31 11-16-2013 09:51 PM

CBC only cares about money. Leafs get them that.

I'd at least put the Habs on the second HD channel here though to give those fans not in the Toronto market an option.

RealityBytes 11-16-2013 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoyo999 (Post 74521607)
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Leafs command more advertising dollars because as mentioned they generate higher ratings.

Hab fans have an option on which channel they want to watch the game. Leafs fans across canada have to watch it on CBC so everyone is funnelled to one network.

Hockey night in Canada used to be on in French on SRC, the french CBC so they technically were on nationally every Saturday. I live in the GTA and know several Torontonians who say they'd regularly flip back and forth.

if I'm not mistaken, even Quebec would get the leafs on CBC as their 7pm game. Please correct that if it's wrong though.

I was watching the Habs on an HD English channel, but I'm not exactly sure the channel number or broadcaster. I thought it was CBCMH channel 1030 but I could be wrong. It was in the 10nn range though. (I have Bell Expressvu satellite and just about every English channel offered.)

I get most games in HD English and there just a few that I have to go to RDS for (which I don't like since I only have RDS as regular definition RDS channel 123).

SouthernHab 11-16-2013 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macavoy (Post 74521117)
OP,

I live in Texas and I bought the NHL package from Comcast, tonight is the 2nd night that the Habs game wasn't televised. I think this time it was because it was too far down the list of games that could be on the channels here, last time it was blacked out.

I paid $160 so I could listen to the english games. I could have bought Center Ice but I chose to get it on my TV instead and overall I'm happy with the decision becuase I never have to worry about stream quality.

I'm watching a decent stream tonight online http://freecast.in/ch1.html

I have Center Ice (on TV through my cable company) and the Habs were not televised either.

Its a contractual thing. When NHLN televises a game, none of the cable companies can carry it on their feeds. Its exclusive to NHLN.

Regarding the OP, its like anything else. I hate CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC and dont watch FOX. So I simply dont watch them.

And like macavoy said, the internet is a wonderful thing.;)

Saintpatrick* 11-16-2013 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoyo999 (Post 74521607)
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Leafs command more advertising dollars because as mentioned they generate higher ratings.

Hab fans have an option on which channel they want to watch the game. Leafs fans across canada have to watch it on CBC so everyone is funnelled to one network.

Hockey night in Canada used to be on in French on SRC, the french CBC so they technically were on nationally every Saturday. I live in the GTA and know several Torontonians who say they'd regularly flip back and forth.

if I'm not mistaken, even Quebec would get the leafs on CBC as their 7pm game. Please correct that if it's wrong though.

Yes we get the Leafs games in Quebec. In the 90's everyone west of ontario got the Leafs games and everyone east of Quebec got the Habs game. Now its all Leafs all the time.

Beendair Donedat 11-16-2013 11:53 PM

CBC should read the TBC, it hasn't been "Canadian" for a very long time. Ottawa and Habs fans both get the shaft unless Crosby is coming to town.

It's kind of nice seeing the Leafs lose on television though on a regular basis, so it takes the sting off seeing those no good ****s every week.

JLP 11-17-2013 04:03 AM

CBC HNIC is basically for English Canada WASP consumption. This demographic's focus is Toronto. It seems they've abandoned Montréal to RDS, and the commentators on CBC HNIC sort of align against the Habs.

macavoy 11-17-2013 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SouthernHab (Post 74532607)
I have Center Ice (on TV through my cable company) and the Habs were not televised either.

Its a contractual thing. When NHLN televises a game, none of the cable companies can carry it on their feeds. Its exclusive to NHLN.

Regarding the OP, its like anything else. I hate CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC and dont watch FOX. So I simply dont watch them.

And like macavoy said, the internet is a wonderful thing.;)

I haven't even checked if I have NHLN now that I paid for the center ice. So does that mean I could watch the game on NHLN if I had it? I know in the past, they would televise a HNIC Saturday night game.

JPGoHabsGo 11-17-2013 10:37 AM

The part that irks me is that on Rogers I have access to tons of regional CBC channels, but yet I STILL cant choose to watch the Canadiens game for some reason....

bluenose1 11-17-2013 11:05 AM

I would rather just watch Habs on RDS....watched Coachs Corner last night to hear Cherry go on about how sexy he finds Ted Nolan..Cherry is one of the main reasons why I do not watch hockey on CBC.

lostriver 11-17-2013 11:08 AM

I stopped watching HNIC a couple of years ago. Want my taxes back.

Ohashi_Jouzu 11-17-2013 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donghabs98 (Post 74521801)
Being a Habs fan in Nova Scotia, it sucks that if the Leafs are playing on a Saturday Night then that's the only game I see on CBC :shakehead

I seem to catch plenty of Habs games on CBC. For all the complainers, here`s the actual breakdown of the CBC HNIC broadcast schedule for this season:

Here is the breakdown.

29 Habs games---Montreal plays on 25 out of 26 Saturdays, two Sundays, and three weekday games
25 Leafs games---Toronto plays on 23 Saturdays and two weekday games
17 Senators games with 14 of them on Saturday, two weekday games, and one on Sunday
15 Canucks games with 13 of them on Saturday, one game on Friday, and one on Sunday
15 Jets games---11 of them on Saturday, two weekday games, and one on Sunday
13 Oilers games---11 of them on Saturday and two weekday games
12 Flames games---all of them on Saturday

So yeah, the CBC does the exact opposite of ignore the Habs. And whether or not I agree with every single panelist they`ve ever had on or not, it`s a much higher concentration and wider spectrum of NHL "wisdom", and I`ll take CBC`s production quality and less politically-driven rhetoric over RDS any day.

But yeah, when my cable box lets me down, the internet easily gets me around any regional blackout obstacles so a big QQ to the uninformed OP.

sandysan 11-17-2013 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macavoy (Post 74521117)
OP,

I live in Texas and I bought the NHL package from Comcast, tonight is the 2nd night that the Habs game wasn't televised. I think this time it was because it was too far down the list of games that could be on the channels here, last time it was blacked out.

I paid $160 so I could listen to the english games. I could have bought Center Ice but I chose to get it on my TV instead and overall I'm happy with the decision becuase I never have to worry about stream quality.

I'm watching a decent stream tonight online http://freecast.in/ch1.html

The have game was on nhl network last night, usually its the leafs but leafs sabres was moved to center ice. I'd prefer it was on nhln because its the only way to get it in high def, my cable provider broadcasts zero center ice games in HD.

reffree 11-17-2013 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohashi_Jouzu (Post 74551833)
I seem to catch plenty of Habs games on CBC. For all the complainers, here`s the actual breakdown of the CBC HNIC broadcast schedule for this season:

Here is the breakdown.

29 Habs games---Montreal plays on 25 out of 26 Saturdays, two Sundays, and three weekday games
25 Leafs games---Toronto plays on 23 Saturdays and two weekday games
17 Senators games with 14 of them on Saturday, two weekday games, and one on Sunday
15 Canucks games with 13 of them on Saturday, one game on Friday, and one on Sunday
15 Jets games---11 of them on Saturday, two weekday games, and one on Sunday
13 Oilers games---11 of them on Saturday and two weekday games
12 Flames games---all of them on Saturday

So yeah, the CBC does the exact opposite of ignore the Habs. And whether or not I agree with every single panelist they`ve ever had on or not, it`s a much higher concentration and wider spectrum of NHL "wisdom", and I`ll take CBC`s production quality and less politically-driven rhetoric over RDS any day.

But yeah, when my cable box lets me down, the internet easily gets me around any regional blackout obstacles so a big QQ to the uninformed OP.

I can't remember the last time a saturday Habs game wasn't on CBC, I'm surprise they "only" have 25 of 26 this year.

Le Tricolore 11-17-2013 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohashi_Jouzu (Post 74551833)
I seem to catch plenty of Habs games on CBC. For all the complainers, here`s the actual breakdown of the CBC HNIC broadcast schedule for this season:

Here is the breakdown.

29 Habs games---Montreal plays on 25 out of 26 Saturdays, two Sundays, and three weekday games
25 Leafs games---Toronto plays on 23 Saturdays and two weekday games
17 Senators games with 14 of them on Saturday, two weekday games, and one on Sunday
15 Canucks games with 13 of them on Saturday, one game on Friday, and one on Sunday
15 Jets games---11 of them on Saturday, two weekday games, and one on Sunday
13 Oilers games---11 of them on Saturday and two weekday games
12 Flames games---all of them on Saturday

So yeah, the CBC does the exact opposite of ignore the Habs. And whether or not I agree with every single panelist they`ve ever had on or not, it`s a much higher concentration and wider spectrum of NHL "wisdom", and I`ll take CBC`s production quality and less politically-driven rhetoric over RDS any day.

But yeah, when my cable box lets me down, the internet easily gets me around any regional blackout obstacles so a big QQ to the uninformed OP.

The OP is talking about national coverage, though. You'll only get Habs games if you're in/around Quebec.

I imagine Toronto brings in higher ratings and I don't watch on CBC anyway, so I don't really care.

Davebo* 11-17-2013 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ohashi_Jouzu (Post 74551833)
I seem to catch plenty of Habs games on CBC. For all the complainers, here`s the actual breakdown of the CBC HNIC broadcast schedule for this season:

Here is the breakdown.




And most of those Habs games are 'aired' online only, and their streaming technology is a generation or two too old, at best. In the east you're stuck watching the laffs on the tube, or online you watch the cbc slideshow.

FerrisRox 11-17-2013 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noob616 (Post 74520247)
The Leafs just dwarf every other team for TV ratings in English.

That's actually not true.

One thing that is often misreported when talking about television popularity for Canadian hockey teams is that the Leafs are the most popular.

When the Canadiens air on CBC proper, if you take their ratings plus the french language ratings, the Canadiens draw more viewers then the Maple Leafs to the network. Also, if you go by province, outside of Ontario, the Canadiens draw more viewers then the Maple Leafs in every other province.

Based just on English language viewers, the Leafs, thanks to the size of Ontario draw more viewers but to say they "dwarf" every other team is even close to factual. They are bigger, but the Canadiens, when on English CBC, draw a number that isn't that far off.


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