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SpaceCowboy 11-17-2013 11:27 AM

The Score - Shawn Matthias on trade block. Canucks interested?
 
Per TheScore app. Shawn Matthias on the trade block with Canucks interest. Value? Possible pieces involved? What other teams might bite?

SeaOfBlue 11-17-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SpaceCowboy (Post 74552993)
Per TheScore app. Shawn Matthias on the trade block with Canucks interest. Value? Possible pieces involved? What other teams might bite?

Leafs :laugh: Probably not anymore though.

detredWINgs 11-17-2013 11:38 AM

Oh ****. There goes Detroit's 1st round pick. :facepalm:

Freudian 11-17-2013 11:41 AM

I would think a lot of teams would be interested. Young bottom six forwards with good size.

Canadian Canuck 11-17-2013 11:45 AM

Tanev for Matthias and Weaver?

CarknerCountry 11-17-2013 11:47 AM

I know its eklund but he is reporting florida and sens are in talk for a 2 for 2 deal.

Lundface* 11-17-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kanucks1 (Post 74553659)
Tanev for Matthias and Weaver?

Just waive Tanev for **** sakes

Luck 6 11-17-2013 12:01 PM

I'd love Matthias, he would fill our hole at #3C for this season. We have a good trading relationship with Florida as well, which bodes well for the validity. I'm not sure what Florida would be looking for in return, I'd be hard pressed to include Tanev in the deal. I'd prefer to send a 2nd round pick and a B level prospect back. Would that be close? What are Florida's needs right now?

Real Gudbranson 11-17-2013 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Luck 6 (Post 74554299)
I'd love Matthias, he would fill our hole at #3C for this season. We have a good trading relationship with Florida as well, which bodes well for the validity. I'm not sure what Florida would be looking for in return, I'd be hard pressed to include Tanev in the deal. I'd prefer to send a 2nd round pick and a B level prospect back. Would that be close? What are Florida's needs right now?

They need offensive prospects.

Chet Donnelly 11-17-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lundface (Post 74554041)
Just waive Tanev for **** sakes

We don't want to get rid of Tanev. Some Canucks fans include him in every proposal for some reason. He isn't being moved.

SpaceCowboy 11-17-2013 12:14 PM

Schroeder or Jensen? Do either of those make sense?

dim jim 11-17-2013 12:25 PM

I'd do Schroeder for Matthias, doubt Florida would though.

SufferingCatFan 11-17-2013 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SpaceCowboy (Post 74554791)
Schroeder or Jensen? Do either of those make sense?

Nope. Neither does much for the Panthers.

I would expect a trade that involves Matthias to the Nucks would be for a vet D with salary coming back. Alternatively, the Cats really need a young goalie type so may be Lack might be involved.

Real Gudbranson 11-17-2013 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SufferingCatFan (Post 74555415)
Nope. Neither does much for the Panthers.

I would expect a trade that involves Matthias to the Nucks would be for a vet D with salary coming back. Alternatively, the Cats really need a young goalie type so may be Lack might be involved.

Which of our vet D would appeal to tallon?

Szechwan 11-17-2013 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lundface (Post 74554041)
Just waive Tanev for **** sakes

Why would they do that? The guy is a second pairing D-man pushed down by Vancouver's depth.

I'm pretty sure the only reason he's included all the time is because the Canucks would be dealing from a position of strength to address their lacking C depth. Fans actually like the guy, they just know he can be replaced by Corrado right away.

Reign Nateo 11-17-2013 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Lundface (Post 74554041)
Just waive Tanev for **** sakes

He's one of the Canucks' only young trade chips that has any value. That's why he's in every proposal, not because he's no good. Funny thing is something around Tanev/Matthias does make some sense as the Canucks eventually need to open up a spot for Corrado.

ohnoeszz 11-17-2013 01:30 PM

I like Matthias but Tanev is a far better player. I'd offer Schroeder + a 3rd. Schroeder can still become a really good player but he needs ice time and some opportunity. The Canucks don't have much of that to offer and their system isn't the greatest fit for him (a lot of board play). They also aren't in a spot to be waiting around for a guy.

AustonMitchWilly 11-17-2013 01:32 PM

Please leafs go get him

GernBlanston 11-17-2013 01:33 PM

Florida is in a weird situation, IMO. We obviously need some talent, but we have a great young core in place who, if they develop on schedule, will make us a solid young team in the next 2 years. So, if we can trade some of our guys that 1) have some value at this point, and 2) we're actually willing to part with, what do we need in return?

From the 'nucks, There aren't any forwards (who don't live on the first line and would never be traded) that I'd give up Matthias for. He's already a slightly more talented Santorelli... Defense? I've heard good things about Tanev, but don't really know. I doubt Vancouver makes Bieksa available, but I think he'd be a good fit in the new coach's philosophy where D is expected to cycle forward and get involved in the forecheck. Lack? There is a lot of talk about Markstrom possibly not being the savior that he was expected to be (although he's still young and the jury is still decidedly out), so I'm not counting that possibility out - though you'd have to take Clemmensen in the deal.

I just don't know what sort of trade would work here. We're playing better under the new guy, but we're a mess. I just don't know what is going to make us better at this point other than 2 years of seasoning for guys like Bjugstad, Petrovic, Shore, Huberdeau, and Barkov.

bloggerfanthe* 11-17-2013 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CarknerCountry (Post 74553731)
I know its eklund but he is reporting florida and sens are in talk for a 2 for 2 deal.

So these two teams aren't talking then. Dwayne is full of BS.

gizmo12688 11-17-2013 01:39 PM

Would totally do Matthias and a pick/prospect for a solid veteran D

CanadianSharks 11-17-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SpaceCowboy (Post 74554791)
Schroeder or Jensen? Do either of those make sense?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SufferingCatFan (Post 74555415)
Nope. Neither does much for the Panthers.

I would expect a trade that involves Matthias to the Nucks would be for a vet D with salary coming back. Alternatively, the Cats really need a young goalie type so may be Lack might be involved.

Jensen seems to make perfect sense to me. Lack makes zero sense, unless you've soured on Markstrom. That said, I don't really know the Panther's needs, but I thought you would be looking for young wingers.

BoKnows53 11-17-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GernBlanston (Post 74558825)
Florida is in a weird situation, IMO. We obviously need some talent, but we have a great young core in place who, if they develop on schedule, will make us a solid young team in the next 2 years. So, if we can trade some of our guys that 1) have some value at this point, and 2) we're actually willing to part with, what do we need in return?

From the 'nucks, There aren't any forwards (who don't live on the first line and would never be traded) that I'd give up Matthias for. He's already a slightly more talented Santorelli... Defense? I've heard good things about Tanev, but don't really know. I doubt Vancouver makes Bieksa available, but I think he'd be a good fit in the new coach's philosophy where D is expected to cycle forward and get involved in the forecheck. Lack? There is a lot of talk about Markstrom possibly not being the savior that he was expected to be (although he's still young and the jury is still decidedly out), so I'm not counting that possibility out - though you'd have to take Clemmensen in the deal.

I just don't know what sort of trade would work here. We're playing better under the new guy, but we're a mess. I just don't know what is going to make us better at this point other than 2 years of seasoning for guys like Bjugstad, Petrovic, Shore, Huberdeau, and Barkov.

You're dreaming if you think Bieksa will be involved in a trade for Matthias. You'll likely get Schroeder, or one of our expendable bottom 6 forwards. Low draft picks will probably be thrown in as well.

His size would really help us against these California teams

Ola 11-17-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GernBlanston (Post 74558825)
Florida is in a weird situation, IMO. We obviously need some talent, but we have a great young core in place who, if they develop on schedule, will make us a solid young team in the next 2 years. So, if we can trade some of our guys that 1) have some value at this point, and 2) we're actually willing to part with, what do we need in return?

From the 'nucks, There aren't any forwards (who don't live on the first line and would never be traded) that I'd give up Matthias for. He's already a slightly more talented Santorelli... Defense? I've heard good things about Tanev, but don't really know. I doubt Vancouver makes Bieksa available, but I think he'd be a good fit in the new coach's philosophy where D is expected to cycle forward and get involved in the forecheck. Lack? There is a lot of talk about Markstrom possibly not being the savior that he was expected to be (although he's still young and the jury is still decidedly out), so I'm not counting that possibility out - though you'd have to take Clemmensen in the deal.

I just don't know what sort of trade would work here. We're playing better under the new guy, but we're a mess. I just don't know what is going to make us better at this point other than 2 years of seasoning for guys like Bjugstad, Petrovic, Shore, Huberdeau, and Barkov.

That last step is hard to take though...

GernBlanston 11-17-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BoKnows53 (Post 74559245)
You're dreaming if you think Bieksa will be involved in a trade for Matthias. You'll likely get Schroeder, or one of our expendable bottom 6 forwards. Low draft picks will probably be thrown in as well.

His size would really help us against these California teams

No, no... as I said, "I doubt Vancouver makes Bieksa available". I was just throwing stuff out there. I'm honestly not sure what we'd need to get back from Matthias, but I do know that Kulikov is likely on the block as well. So either there's gonna be a package for a top-6 guy, or we're going to have to fill some holes - most likely a top-4 Dman. I don't think Bieksa for Matthias even up is a real trade. Just brainstorming here.


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