HFBoards

HFBoards (http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/index.php)
-   Montreal Canadiens (http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16)
-   -   The Stephane Waite appreciation Thread. (http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=1545031)

phil76 11-24-2013 11:15 AM

The Stephane Waite appreciation Thread.
 
Didn't see anything about him so far but he's been doing a great job with Price and Budaj. I believe we have the best goaltending duo in the league.kudos to Stephane.

RussCourtnallsGhost 11-24-2013 11:24 AM

"Compete" is the best word to describe it. In years past he would be so concentrated on his positioning that he looked like a statue.

HABS2DCUP 11-24-2013 11:24 AM

Theres a good read up on the gazette website, here:
Quote:

MONTREAL — In the view of Stéphane Waite, there might be one job in professional sports as difficult as playing goal for the Canadiens.

“Maybe quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys?” the Habs goaltending coach said with a grin. “That’s probably not easy, either.”

Four and a half months into his tenure with the Canadiens, 22 games into the NHL season, Waite laughed at the suggestion that Montreal, as a hockey town, is stark raving, certifiably mad.
The full article can be found here.

Agnostic 11-24-2013 11:36 AM

You can't overstate what Waite appears to have done for Carey Price's career. Price is finally realizing his potential.

BRAD HABSFAN 11-24-2013 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agnostic (Post 74939189)
You can't overstate what Waite appears to have done for Carey Price's career. Price is finally realizing his potential.

I think the biggest thing Waite worked on was Price sliding too far to 1 side which would put him out of position on the other side. Price's movement left to right is more confined and it keeps him in better position to get back to the other side. Price has started out as hot as he did last year; let us hope it continues. He is a a very good goalie; let him keep this up and he could be a great goalie; then with playoff success we can finally have another elite goalie.

Captain Wolverine 11-24-2013 11:59 AM

I said before the start of the season that Waite was the best acquisition the Habs made during the offseason (not that that's saying much when you compare his impact to Briere, Parros and Murray's). Still, glad to see the work he's done with Price. He has Price staying on his skates more, which is historically where Price does his best work. He also has both Price and Budaj playing looser and more aggressively, challenging shooters which lets them just react to shots as opposed to predicting what shooters will do (which is just asking for them to be faked out).

Tyson 11-24-2013 12:09 PM

Price and Budaj have never played better in their careers. That says it all

ThaDevilGirl 11-24-2013 12:22 PM

Carey's compete is on another level this year. It's great to see.

Jigger77 11-24-2013 12:28 PM

Waite was on l'Amtichambre last night and when asked about what he's doing different with Price this year his answer was two things. Game preparation and body language. He repeated a few times that the focus was always and ONLY on the next game. Also talked about poise and body language and not showing frustration after a bad goal to give off that feeling of confidence and control. This spreads out to the entire team and also tells the opposition that this guy is on tonight, he's going to be hard to score on. He also said that Olympics is a word they had not said once since he's met him. Thought that was pretty interesting.

macavoy 11-24-2013 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyson (Post 74940409)
Price and Budaj have never played better in their careers. That says it all

This is the most important point that people are over looking. Price playing well could just be a matter of playing well but the fact that both the goalies are playing lights out at the same time, tends to give a lot more weight to the fact that coaching is making a difference.

dkdaniel 11-24-2013 12:49 PM

Great change from the past few years so far. Kudos !

Shutdown 11-24-2013 01:12 PM

Groulx deserves a ton of credit in Budaj's development. Budaj had never had a goalie coach in his career in the NHL as the Avalanche's first full-time goalie coach was hired by Patrick Roy (Allaire). When he got here he was a bit of a mess, and you saw the improvement in his game late in his first season with Groulx and it carried into the shortened season last year. He's a lot more in control of his movements, though his rebound control is still pretty terrible it has improved leaps and bounds over where he was when he got to Montreal.

Groulx started as a video coach so I'm sure he broke down a lot of tape with Budaj and showed him holes in his game. Groulx has a pretty good track record with goalies who are seen more as athletic and less as technical goalies. Craig Anderson is another guy who benefitted greatly from Groulx, and he's another guy who's more athletic than technical (in comparison to a Price or Lundqvist for example).

With Price you can tell Waite had a much bigger influence on his game than Groulx.

De Montreal 11-24-2013 01:22 PM

I really like budaj too he's fun

CP31 11-24-2013 01:25 PM

Budaj is literally the perfect backup.

Rock On 11-24-2013 02:23 PM

Yeah, totally !

FrontierPsyCHiatrist* 11-24-2013 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shutdown (Post 74942901)
Budaj had never had a goalie coach in his career in the NHL as the Avalanche's first full-time goalie coach was hired by Patrick Roy (Allaire).

Wow really? I didn't know some teams/goalies didn't have a goalie coach. I guess Budaj's best season isn't a coincidence. Kudos to Groulx and Waite, but also Budaj since he's such a hard-working guy.

Shutdown 11-24-2013 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrontierPsyCHiatrist (Post 74946895)
Wow really? I didn't know some teams/goalies didn't have a goalie coach. I guess Budaj's best season isn't a coincidence. Kudos to Groulx and Waite, but also Budaj since he's such a hard-working guy.

They might've had a part-time goalie coach, not sure. But I'm positive they never had a full-time one.

VanNistelrooy 11-24-2013 04:09 PM

Causation is not correlation.

What we know is that the Habs goalies are according less goals this year.

Is that really because of Waite?

Is it because of MT defensive system where the defensemen never blocked that many shots?

A combination of both?

Captain Wolverine 11-24-2013 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanNistelrooy (Post 74951265)
Causation is not correlation.

What we know is that the Habs goalies are according less goals this year.

Is that really because of Waite?

Is it because of MT defensive system where the defensemen never blocked that many shots?

A combination of both?

Montreal was a dominant possession team last year and regularly out chancing opponents. They're strictly middle of the pack so far in that regard. They give up more shots and more scoring chances.

I agree that correlation does not equal causation, but their improvement has nothing to do with blocked shots or MT's system.

Richiebottles 11-24-2013 05:23 PM

Price was lights out yesterday. His confidence in net is really really good. Hope he can keep it up and we can keep Waite and Budaj for as long as we can !

Top Corner2 11-24-2013 06:18 PM

Talk to me come playoff time.

Hackett 11-24-2013 07:27 PM

Price has had good seasons under every goalie coach he's had, so its hard to tell how much of a difference Waite makes for him.

It could be a case of being at the right place at the right time, where price is maturing into the role, and the extra motivation of Sochi can't be discounted either.

What I'm waiting for in price is to see him put a string of top notch seasons together. Thats something he has not quite done thus far in his career

groovejuice 11-24-2013 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hackett (Post 74961135)
Price has had good seasons under every goalie coach he's had, so its hard to tell how much of a difference Waite makes for him.

It could be a case of being at the right place at the right time, where price is maturing into the role, and the extra motivation of Sochi can't be discounted either.

What I'm waiting for in price is to see him put a string of top notch seasons together. Thats something he has not quite done thus far in his career

You need only to actually watch for what has been changed or tweaked in his style to make a connection with SW's influence.

groovejuice 11-24-2013 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shutdown (Post 74951133)
They might've had a part-time goalie coach, not sure. But I'm positive they never had a full-time one.

This has been discussed several times since Budaj joined the team. Can you imagine an NHL team's management thinking a coach for the goaltenders is unnecessary? Boggles the mind.

Considering Budaj's meteoric improvement in Montreal, it makes one ask how good he might be now had he received the coaching in Denver.

Beaker 11-24-2013 10:33 PM

Or maybe it's the Olympics.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:12 PM.

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com, A property of CraveOnline, a division of AtomicOnline LLC ©2009 CraveOnline Media, LLC. All Rights Reserved.