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dingbathero 12-10-2013 08:38 AM

Introducing your 2014-15 Flyers - armchair edition.
 
So, I'm super bored and it's only a matter of time all the arm chair GM's put in for next years roster (couldn't find a thread on this so...).

Based on the cap going up and what we need today... this is what I dreamt up - yes, it's not realistic - so before you flame away, take it with a grain of salt.

I traded Simmonds to BUF for Psysk and a pick I guess (I'd rather have Simmonds than Hartnell - but again don't think he will waive his NMC).... and I don't think anyone would take Striet so I left him....
Signed Girardi
Signed Vanek
Signed Khubodin

Armchair GM Roster (I'm not the REAL GM, so breathe.... breathe)

FORWARDS
Thomas Vanek ($6.500m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Brayden Schenn ($2.750m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($4.500m)
Steve Downie ($2.650m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Matt Read ($3.625m)
Michael Raffl ($0.735m) / Scott Laughton ($0.894m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Luke Schenn ($3.600m) / Mark Streit ($5.250m)
Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m) / Mark Pysyk ($0.870m)
Erik Gustafsson ($1.000m) /

GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($3.750m)
Anton Khudobin ($1.250m)


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SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,149,167; BONUSES: $212,500
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $1,950,833

Curufinwe 12-10-2013 08:48 AM

I actually thinks it's looks pretty good... except for the cap hits of Vanek and Giradi. Vanek will get $7.5m somewhere and Giradi will get at least $4m.

I really like Khudobin as a backup.

4thline4life 12-10-2013 08:54 AM

Would love to Have girardi on this team. Would much rather have him on a 4.5 million a year deal than streit.

Flyersfan1493 12-10-2013 08:56 AM

Not really a huge priority, but if we have Laughton and Raffl on the 4th line, I'd like to upgrade on Rinaldo. Someone like McGinn could be a good option there.

dingbathero 12-10-2013 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curufinwe (Post 75896069)
I actually thinks it's looks pretty good... except for the cap hits of Vanek and Giradi. Vanek will get $7.5m somewhere and Giradi will get at least $4m.

I really like Khudobin as a backup.

They could still fit I think if they demanded that.

BillDineen 12-10-2013 09:12 AM

This is what I expect:

Boyle signed for longer than any of us want.

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.750m) / Claude Giroux ($8.275m) / Jakub Voracek ($4.250m)
Brayden Schenn ($2.750m) / Vincent Lecavalier ($4.500m) / Wayne Simmonds ($3.975m)
Matt Read ($3.625m) / Sean Couturier ($1.750m) / Steve Downie ($3.250m)
Adam Hall ($0.600m) / Scott Laughton ($0.894m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.750m)
Jay Rosehill ($0.675m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Dan Boyle ($6.667m)
Mark Streit ($5.250m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Erik Gustafsson ($1.000m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
Mark Alt ($0.782m) /
GOALTENDERS
Steve Mason ($3.500m)
Ray Emery ($1.650m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(estimations for 2014-15)
SALARY CAP: $71,100,000; CAP PAYROLL: $70,492,500; BONUSES: $330,833
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $607,500

Curufinwe 12-10-2013 09:15 AM

Two years for Boyle would be OK by me.

BillDineen 12-10-2013 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curufinwe (Post 75896973)
Two years for Boyle would be OK by me.

Me too if he even makes it to free agency. Despite his personality issues his first time here, I could see Homer signing Pitkanen with few options available or resigning Timonen for too much if he doesn't retire.

Scrivens as a backup would be interesting. I assume Phaneuf will be resigned before free agency.

RJ8812* 12-10-2013 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillDineen (Post 75897101)
Me too if he even makes it to free agency. Despite his personality issues his first time here, I could see Homer signing Pitkanen with few options available or resigning Timonen for too much if he doesn't retire.

Scrivens as a backup would be interesting. I assume Phaneuf will be resigned before free agency.

Pitkanen :laugh:

Would not surprise me if Homer signed a player that missed an entire year to a serious injury

Curufinwe 12-10-2013 09:46 AM

Because he's done that before?

Prongo 12-10-2013 09:49 AM

Vanek is going to get 8 mill on the open market. If he is signed, someone will go through trade. Giradi will get 5.5 I think. If we do sign Giradi though, we could trade Coburn for a pretty return to say the oilers!

All of your lineups better not lack a certain cherry hill native either. BOBBY RYAN!!

RJ8812* 12-10-2013 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curufinwe (Post 75897923)
Because he's done that before?

no, because it's an absolute stupid signing that involves bringing back an ex-Flyers that most likely will be a shell of his former self

Stizz09 12-10-2013 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prongo (Post 75898057)
Vanek is going to get 8 mill on the open market. If he is signed, someone will go through trade. Giradi will get 5.5 I think. If we do sign Giradi though, we could trade Coburn for a pretty return to say the oilers!

All of your lineups better not lack a certain cherry hill native either. BOBBY RYAN!!

With Ottawa floundering (even tho they just beat us) and so inconsistent I believe Bobby Ryan is still an option... I don't care how much he says he loves it in Ottawa, I think deep down he would love to come home. We all know his personal ties to the organization and it just lines up too perfectly for Homer not to pursue him.

FLYERSFAN18 12-10-2013 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prongo (Post 75898057)
Vanek is going to get 8 mill on the open market. If he is signed, someone will go through trade. Giradi will get 5.5 I think. If we do sign Giradi though, we could trade Coburn for a pretty return to say the oilers!

All of your lineups better not lack a certain cherry hill native either. BOBBY RYAN!!

Too bad Hartnell and Lecavalier have those NMC. Would be nice to be able to trade one or both of them and maybe a pick for Ryan. Also I could see Simmonds and a pick or two being traded for him. I could see him being traded in the offseason for some players locked up long term if he indicates to Ottawa that he will likely test free agency the following offseason.

Protest 12-10-2013 10:43 AM

What do you trade for Ryan though?

Laughton, 1st, + another young player/prospect would have to be the offer.

Maybe they'd be interested in Coburn, but then we'd have to replace a top 4 defenseman.

If they don't want futures then they probably won't be looking to move Ryan.

FLYERSFAN18 12-10-2013 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Protest (Post 75900433)
What do you trade for Ryan though?

Laughton, 1st, + another young player/prospect would have to be the offer.

Maybe they'd be interested in Coburn, but then we'd have to replace a top 4 defenseman.

If they don't want futures then they probably won't be looking to move Ryan.

Probably Simmonds plus picks and prospect

Protest 12-10-2013 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FLYERSFAN18 (Post 75901831)
Probably Simmonds plus picks and prospect

But What would be the point for Ottawa? The only reason to move him is if you think you can't resign him, in which case he'd be moved either at the deadline next year, or next offseason (negotiating rights). Unless I'm wrong about when his contract ends.

If they think they can't win now they're probably going to move Spezza and not Ryan. If they think they can win now, they're not going to move Ryan.

BillyShoe1721 12-10-2013 11:52 AM

With the cap going up, Vanek is going to get at least 7.5, and Girardi at least 6 if they're on the open market.

dingbathero 12-10-2013 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prongo (Post 75898057)
Vanek is going to get 8 mill on the open market. If he is signed, someone will go through trade. Giradi will get 5.5 I think. If we do sign Giradi though, we could trade Coburn for a pretty return to say the oilers!

All of your lineups better not lack a certain cherry hill native either. BOBBY RYAN!!

not this upcoming offseason.....

orange is better 12-10-2013 01:12 PM

how about a totally drastic overhaul just for fun? :naughty:

Trades:

Brayden Schenn, Luke Schenn, Wayne Simmonds

to MTL for

Max Pacioretty, Nathan Beaulieu

Kimmo Timonen, Petr Straka

to DET for

1st in 2014

Scott Hartnell (if he'll waive), 2nd in 2014

to a playoff bound team for

1st in 2014

Draft: (let's say the teams stay where they are hypothetically, and the hartnell trade is to minnesota)
8th overall - Haydn Fleury, D, Red Deer WHL
18th overall (from DET) - Nick Ritchie, LW, Peterborough OHL
22nd overall (from MIN) - Sonny Milano, LW, USNTDP

OR

Package all 3 for the 1st or 2nd overall and take Aaron Ekblad.


offseason:
resign Steve Mason
resign Michael Raffl
Sign Marian Gaborik
Sign Ryan Callahan
Sign John Mitchell
Sign Dan Boyle
Sign Kris Russell
Sign Al Montoya

Pacioretty (4,500,00) - Giroux (8,275,000) - Gaborik (6,000,000)
Voracek (4,250,000) - Couturier (1,750,000) - Lecavalier (4,500,000)
Read (3,625,000) - Laughton (894,167) - Callahan (4,900,000)
Rinaldo (750,000) - Mitchell (1,000,000) - Raffl (950,000)
Rosehill (675,000)

Coburn (4,500,000) - Boyle (6,250,000)
Grossmann (3,500,000) - Streit (5,250,000)
Russell (2,000,000) - Beaulieu (925,000)

Mason (4,000,000)
Montoya (975,000)

Cap number: $70,000,000
Cap payroll: $69,469,167
Cap Space: $530,833

dingbathero 12-10-2013 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange is better (Post 75907815)
how about a totally drastic overhaul just for fun? :naughty:

Trades:

Brayden Schenn, Luke Schenn, Wayne Simmonds

to MTL for

Max Pacioretty, Nathan Beaulieu

Kimmo Timonen, Petr Straka

to DET for

1st in 2014

Scott Hartnell (if he'll waive), 2nd in 2014

to a playoff bound team for

1st in 2014

offseason:
resign Steve Mason
resign Michael Raffl
Sign Marian Gaborik
Sign Ryan Callahan
Sign John Mitchell
Sign Dan Boyle
Sign Kris Russell
Sign Al Montoya

Pacioretty (4,500,00) - Giroux (8,275,000) - Gaborik (6,000,000)
Voracek (4,250,000) - Couturier (1,750,000) - Lecavalier (4,500,000)
Read (3,625,000) - Laughton (894,167) - Callahan (4,900,000)
Rinaldo (750,000) - Mitchell (1,000,000) - Raffl (950,000)
Rosehill (675,000)

Coburn (4,500,000) - Boyle (6,250,000)
Grossmann (3,500,000) - Streit (5,250,000)
Russell (2,000,000) - Beaulieu (925,000)

Mason (4,000,000)
Montoya (975,000)

Cap number: $70,000,000
Cap payroll: $69,469,167
Cap Space: $530,833


hired... :)

That would be insane if all that went down.

FlyingPhilly 12-10-2013 07:49 PM

Armchair GM thread where people can do what they want, but there are still some with Rinaldo and Rosehill on the roster? What? If I was doing this I would get rid of both somehow someway.

Garbage Goal 12-10-2013 10:06 PM

Vanek is likely to hit free agency as the Islanders suck hardcore, he's primed for a big deal, and he's probably tired of being on crappy teams by now. Between the big contract he's likely to get and the fact that he's not the type of player I want on a big deal I don't want him. The guy's scoring ability gets hyped up and while it is true that he's a quality goal scorer he's a better version of Matt Moulson for all intents and purposes. Not a good two-way player and seems to have a reputation for being a liability when not scoring. On it's own that's not a problem, but I already feel like our entire top six is like that to some degree and our top six is our biggest problem right now.

Azir 12-10-2013 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange is better (Post 75907815)
how about a totally drastic overhaul just for fun? :naughty:

Trades:

Brayden Schenn, Luke Schenn, Wayne Simmonds

to MTL for

Max Pacioretty, Nathan Beaulieu

Kimmo Timonen, Petr Straka

to DET for

1st in 2014

Scott Hartnell (if he'll waive), 2nd in 2014

to a playoff bound team for

1st in 2014

Draft: (let's say the teams stay where they are hypothetically, and the hartnell trade is to minnesota)
8th overall - Haydn Fleury, D, Red Deer WHL
18th overall (from DET) - Nick Ritchie, LW, Peterborough OHL
22nd overall (from MIN) - Sonny Milano, LW, USNTDP

OR

Package all 3 for the 1st or 2nd overall and take Aaron Ekblad.


offseason:
resign Steve Mason
resign Michael Raffl
Sign Marian Gaborik
Sign Ryan Callahan
Sign John Mitchell
Sign Dan Boyle
Sign Kris Russell
Sign Al Montoya

Pacioretty (4,500,00) - Giroux (8,275,000) - Gaborik (6,000,000)
Voracek (4,250,000) - Couturier (1,750,000) - Lecavalier (4,500,000)
Read (3,625,000) - Laughton (894,167) - Callahan (4,900,000)
Rinaldo (750,000) - Mitchell (1,000,000) - Raffl (950,000)
Rosehill (675,000)

Coburn (4,500,000) - Boyle (6,250,000)
Grossmann (3,500,000) - Streit (5,250,000)
Russell (2,000,000) - Beaulieu (925,000)

Mason (4,000,000)
Montoya (975,000)

Cap number: $70,000,000
Cap payroll: $69,469,167
Cap Space: $530,833

That lineup look pretty solid. I would love to get Ekblad and the draft is in Philly this year, so who knows maybe Homer will be in a rash mood.

My only problems are that Gaborik will probably go for 6.5 at the least on the open market. If Mason can continue his stellar play, he will be asking for at least 4.5.

But, I would be ecstatic if this were to happen.

King Forsberg 12-10-2013 10:31 PM

Orange is betters line up looks pretty good but I'd rather re sign Downie for cheaper than sign. Callahan for nearly 5 mil to be on our 3rd line. I do like the idea of signing Gaborik though. We could use someone with his kind of speed and shot. I'd also keep Adam Hall. He's been solid all year. I could live without Kris Russell as well. I'd rather leave that spot open for someone younger.


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