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scoutman1 12-11-2013 07:25 PM

2014 QMJHL Draft: Scoutman December Rankings
 
1A. Chad Krys--D--New Jersey Rockets U16 5'11/170 14 06 14 20 If Krys says he is coming to the QMJHL he will be the 1st overall pick in the draft but i am not sure the verdict on him yet.
1B. Mitchell Balmas—F—Cape Tradesman 6’01/168 20 15 23 38
2. Evan Fitzpatrick—G—Newbridge 6’02/170 09 04 1.90 .940
3. Michael Campoli—D—Lac St Louis 6’02/177 08 00 01 01
4. Jordan Maher—F—Centeral Ice Pack 5’11/158 20 21 20 41
5. Michael O’Leary—F—Salisbury 6’00/155 00 00 00 00
6. Keith Getson—F—South Shore 6’00/180 24 16 10 26
7. Samuel Girard—D—Jonquire 5’09/156 28 04 20 24
8. Pascal Laberge—F—Chateauguay 6’01/153 30 18 18 36
9. Brett Crossley—F—Shattuck U16 6’00/160 28 09 18 27
10. Felix Lauzon—F—Magog 5’08/165 25 08 18 26
11. Pierre-Luc Dubois—F—Notre Dame 6’00/153 28 13 15 28
12. Luke Green—D—Newbridge 6’00/155 25 12 11 23
13. Samuel Guilbault—F—Antoine-Girouard 5’09/161 31 09 16 25
14. Lucas Thierus—F—Vikings 5’10/170 27 18 08 26
15. Jesse Sutton—F—St Johns Private 6’00/171 18 17 07 24
16. Alex Arab—F—Cole Harbor 5’10/148 24 13 16 29
17. Raphael Santerre—F—Notre Dame 6’00/157 21 07 11 18
18. Matt Green—F—Newbridge 5’10/140 25 11 15 26
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19. Jacob Neveu—D—Amos 6’02/188 28 01 13 14
20. Peter Abbandonato—F—Montreal Royal 5’09/162 29 04 17 21
21. Guillaume Beck—D—Phenix 6’02/168 24 01 07 08
22. Ryan Brushett—F—Lac St Louis 5’11/160 28 09 10 19
23. Pascal Corbeil—D—Riverains 5’08/159 28 05 14 19
24. Sam Harvey—G—Jonquiere 5’10/172 02 07 3.48 .889
25. Yan Plourde—F—Miramichi 6’01/164 18 09 11 20
26. Miguel Picard—F—Notre Dame 6’00/157 27 08 12 20
27. Gabriel Bilodeau—D—Montreal Royal 6’00/158 28 01 12 13
28. Connor Peveril—F—Cole Harbor 5’11/145 24 10 14 24
29. Nick Sorgio—G—Salisbury 0’00/000 00 00 0.00 .000
30. Jean Gleizes—F—Toronto Marlies 5’11/160 00 00 00 00
31. Hunter Moreau—F—LSL Espoir 5’08/162 13 06 06 12
32. Domenico Argento—D—Montreal Royal 6’02/189 29 03 05 08
33. Mark Grametbauer—G—Cole Harbor 6’01/161 11 01 1.99 .935
34. Reilly Pickard—G—Halifax 6’00/173 09 03 2.41 .920
35. Jesse Hamer—F—Newbridge 5’09/175 23 20 17 37
36. Alexander Katerinakis—F—Royal 5’09/180 29 11 09 20

TA1 Sports 12-11-2013 07:29 PM

Nice. I've seen Luke Green a handful of times this year.

Scary how much upside that kid has. Really like his game.

Curious how he compares in your eyes to Campoli and Girard the two Quebec D you have ranked higher. ( I obviously haven't seen those two).

scoutman1 12-11-2013 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cut and Dry Sports (Post 75989491)
Nice. I've seen Luke Green a handful of times this year.

Scary how much upside that kid has. Really like his game.

Curious how he compares in your eyes to Campoli and Girard the two Quebec D you have ranked higher. ( I obviously haven't seen those two).

All three are very different players....

Campoli is very smart, uses his size, controls the game with the puck, he is physical, hits hard, he plays a little too safe I find, he has an offensive game as he has great vision and passing and a good shot but he needs to use his shot more....he is great defensively though as well....Campoli though is coming back from injury and all the skills are there, I would like to see more from him but since he is just coming back im keeping him high until the season is finished then i will reevaluate him.

Girard is super smart, very smooth, not physical and not a rushing dman but just great positional game, excellent passing on the rush and controls the game and takes over from the point, just super super smart.

Green is a puck rushing 4th forward type of dman, his defensive game is better than what it was but he is dynamite on the rush or with the puck, great hands, good passing and excellent wrist shot, he loves to attack the net, he needs to learn to pick his times but his raw ability is through the roof.

Wee Baby Seamus 12-11-2013 08:43 PM

Barrett Dachyshyn falling? Any issues with his play with the Macs?

scoutman1 12-11-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Wee Baby Seamus (Post 75993893)
Barrett Dachyshyn falling? Any issues with his play with the Macs?

i still love him, i have him going 3rd....he has all the tools, size, skating, smarts, two way play, solid offensive skills, good defensive skills....but for some reason he just has not put the game together yet....but IMO he has too many tools and great size to not get drafted. He fell a bit for me, I was expecting a bit more from him, i come away wanting more from him because it looks like he could give a lot more.

PorkChopSandwiches 12-11-2013 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by scoutman1 (Post 75989317)
1. Mitchell Balmas—F—Cape Tradesman 6’01/168 20 15 23 38
2. Evan Fitzpatrick—G—Newbridge 6’02/170 09 04 1.90 .940
3. Michael Campoli—D—Lac St Louis 6’02/177 08 00 01 01
4. Jordan Maher—F—Centeral Ice Pack 5’11/158 20 21 20 41
5. Michael O’Leary—F—Salisbury 6’00/155 00 00 00 00
6. Keith Getson—F—South Shore 6’00/180 24 16 10 26
7. Samuel Girard—D—Jonquire 5’09/156 28 04 20 24
8. Pascal Laberge—F—Chateauguay 6’01/153 30 18 18 36
9. Brett Crossley—F—Shattuck U16 6’00/160 28 09 18 27
10. Felix Lauzon—F—Magog 5’08/165 25 08 18 26
11. Pierre-Luc Dubois—F—Notre Dame 6’00/153 28 13 15 28
12. Luke Green—D—Newbridge 6’00/155 25 12 11 23
13. Samuel Guilbault—F—Antoine-Girouard 5’09/161 31 09 16 25
14. Lucas Thierus—F—Vikings 5’10/170 27 18 08 26
15. Jesse Sutton—F—St Johns Private 6’00/171 18 17 07 24
16. Alex Arab—F—Cole Harbor 5’10/148 24 13 16 29
17. Raphael Santerre—F—Notre Dame 6’00/157 21 07 11 18
18. Matt Green—F—Newbridge 5’10/140 25 11 15 26
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19. Jacob Neveu—D—Amos 6’02/188 28 01 13 14
20. Peter Abbandonato—F—Montreal Royal 5’09/162 29 04 17 21
21. Guillaume Beck—D—Phenix 6’02/168 24 01 07 08
22. Ryan Brushett—F—Lac St Louis 5’11/160 28 09 10 19
23. Pascal Corbeil—D—Riverains 5’08/159 28 05 14 19
24. Sam Harvey—G—Jonquiere 5’10/172 02 07 3.48 .889
25. Yan Plourde—F—Miramichi 6’01/164 18 09 11 20
26. Miguel Picard—F—Notre Dame 6’00/157 27 08 12 20
27. Gabriel Bilodeau—D—Montreal Royal 6’00/158 28 01 12 13
28. Connor Peveril—F—Cole Harbor 5’11/145 24 10 14 24
29. Nick Sorgio—G—Salisbury 0’00/000 00 00 0.00 .000
30. Jean Gleizes—F—Toronto Marlies 5’11/160 00 00 00 00
31. Hunter Moreau—F—LSL Espoir 5’08/162 13 06 06 12
32. Domenico Argento—D—Montreal Royal 6’02/189 29 03 05 08
33. Mark Grametbauer—G—Cole Harbor 6’01/161 11 01 1.99 .935
34. Reilly Pickard—G—Halifax 6’00/173 09 03 2.41 .920

35. Jesse Hamer—F—Newbridge 5’09/175 23 20 17 37
36. Alexander Katerinakis—F—Royal 5’09/180 29 11 09 20

I like that you have Grametbauer and Pickard together, and Grametbauer ahead slightly. I can honestly say that I would also give Grametbauer the edge here since they are both technically pretty sound, but Grametbauer for me is a bit better at getting square and getting to the shot, both technically and athletically.

Maher for me was a huge and pleasant surprise at the Monctonian, his work ethic each and every shift was off the charts.

For me personally I would not see Arab getting first or even second round picked, same for Peveril. Somewhere in the 3rd or 4th for Arab, 4th to 6th for Peveril. My two cents.

Great update to your list, thanks.

hab 4ever 12-12-2013 11:44 PM

Great update, as usual Scoutman. Glad to see solid Defencement like Neveu and Beck rising. Beck especially strikes me as having tremendous upside.

I have a few questions regarding some of the Québec players.

1- Two MAAA guys i'm surprised have not made your list are Magog D Thomas Grégoire and CND W Samuel L'Italien who after starting slow, now has 11 points in his last 8 games. He is also 6'1".

2- How far of your top two rounds have hyped guys who have not been putting much numbers lately fell? The G. Sylvestre, Sévigny, Taillon, etc.

3- Any changes at the top of your board for the 2015 draft?

bigbadbruins7 12-12-2013 11:58 PM

I see you add Krys to the top of your list. could you provide a little information on him as i have heard his name but not alot on him? Is he that far ahead of everyone else? Also, if he doesnt commit do you see someone taking a flyer on him like the mooseheads did with Eichel and if so how high?

scoutman1 12-13-2013 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bigbadbruins7 (Post 76076055)
I see you add Krys to the top of your list. could you provide a little information on him as i have heard his name but not alot on him? Is he that far ahead of everyone else? Also, if he doesnt commit do you see someone taking a flyer on him like the mooseheads did with Eichel and if so how high?

some people like Krys more than Day in the US......Krys is a great skater (Day is a better skater though), Krys is smart, excellent vision and passing on the rush, he is able to control the game in all three zones, he is great rushing the puck, he is responsible in his own zone, his puck handling is forward esq, this kid has the potential to be an amazing two way defender in the league he is already one of the best 98 talents in North America, like i said some in the USA are dead set Day is the best 98 defender from there but there are many too who think Krys is the better talent.

As for a team taking a flyer on him well that depends when the phone calls and interviews start what his answer is going to be...I myself even if a kid says im going USA and he is actully serious about it well I think a team in round 4 or 5 should just take a flyer on him anyway, the rule is in the draft you have to take 2 USA players or else a fine is in place why not take a flyer on a guy who could be a star in the making...he will get drafted to the QMJHL and I have a feeling it could be a lot sooner than later but I thought the same about Hanifin too and he stayed in the USA.

scoutman1 12-13-2013 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by hab 4ever (Post 76074955)
Great update, as usual Scoutman. Glad to see solid Defencement like Neveu and Beck rising. Beck especially strikes me as having tremendous upside.

I have a few questions regarding some of the Québec players.

1- Two MAAA guys i'm surprised have not made your list are Magog D Thomas Grégoire and CND W Samuel L'Italien who after starting slow, now has 11 points in his last 8 games. He is also 6'1".

2- How far of your top two rounds have hyped guys who have not been putting much numbers lately fell? The G. Sylvestre, Sévigny, Taillon, etc.

3- Any changes at the top of your board for the 2015 draft?

funny you mention Gregoire and L'Italien....I never had good reads on them at the games I attended, now i will be going back up to see them more so im hopping to get better looks then at them...........Sylvestre i was expecting to be much much better than he is but I have all of them going from round 4 to round 6

my 2015 draft I have a fight for 1st overall going on now....imo Charlebois was the clear cut number one but I think Adam Dawe from Newfoundland is creeping up and has a chance at passing him for 1st. Dawe is just down right amazing, Dawe is one of the best players in newfoundland major midget this year as an exception player, Dawe is 3rd in the league in scoring player 18 games getting 11 goals and 17 assists so far as a 13 year old in midget.

stanley cucup 12-13-2013 07:12 AM

Great job Scoutman. I agree with Charlebois and I heard great things about Dawe from NewFoundLand. Have you seen the guy I talked about Jeremy Fortin? Tremendous IQ and hockey sense, another top talent for 2015 IMO

bigbadbruins7 12-13-2013 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by scoutman1 (Post 76084345)
some people like Krys more than Day in the US......Krys is a great skater (Day is a better skater though), Krys is smart, excellent vision and passing on the rush, he is able to control the game in all three zones, he is great rushing the puck, he is responsible in his own zone, his puck handling is forward esq, this kid has the potential to be an amazing two way defender in the league he is already one of the best 98 talents in North America, like i said some in the USA are dead set Day is the best 98 defender from there but there are many too who think Krys is the better talent.

As for a team taking a flyer on him well that depends when the phone calls and interviews start what his answer is going to be...I myself even if a kid says im going USA and he is actully serious about it well I think a team in round 4 or 5 should just take a flyer on him anyway, the rule is in the draft you have to take 2 USA players or else a fine is in place why not take a flyer on a guy who could be a star in the making...he will get drafted to the QMJHL and I have a feeling it could be a lot sooner than later but I thought the same about Hanifin too and he stayed in the USA.

Thanks for the input. Hope he stays in the US and goes the college route like Eichel (and hopefully hanifin). Should be fun and interesting to watch.

arsmaster* 12-13-2013 11:13 AM

All I know about these kids is Campoli looked like a stud at the All-State, if he's only the 3rd best player it looks like a pretty solid class.

3 Minute Minor 12-13-2013 01:16 PM

Still mind boggling that Balmas is tied for 2nd in points in NSMMHL with 4 less games played & on the worst team in the League. That's 38 points in 20 games on a team with only 4 wins.

hockeyman99 12-13-2013 03:06 PM

Will Halifax McDonalds Forwards Johnny Jones, and Luc Poirier go in the first 8 rounds?

hab 4ever 12-13-2013 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoutman1 (Post 76084419)
funny you mention Gregoire and L'Italien....I never had good reads on them at the games I attended, now i will be going back up to see them more so im hopping to get better looks then at them...........Sylvestre i was expecting to be much much better than he is but I have all of them going from round 4 to round 6

my 2015 draft I have a fight for 1st overall going on now....imo Charlebois was the clear cut number one but I think Adam Dawe from Newfoundland is creeping up and has a chance at passing him for 1st. Dawe is just down right amazing, Dawe is one of the best players in newfoundland major midget this year as an exception player, Dawe is 3rd in the league in scoring player 18 games getting 11 goals and 17 assists so far as a 13 year old in midget.

Wow if Dawe is on par with Charlebois than the 2015 QMJHL draft will be something else!!

Any 1997s you see making a push for the top two rounds like Boivin and Goulet last year other than Hamer?

There are a couple of 5'9" offensive forwards who were ignored last year and are having great seasons this year: Chapleau (CCL) and Payusov (Châteauguay). Patrick Poulin's son was ignored at last year's draft but is producing at 1 point/game pace and is 6'2" 190 pounds.

scoutman1 12-13-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hab 4ever (Post 76115189)
Wow if Dawe is on par with Charlebois than the 2015 QMJHL draft will be something else!!

Any 1997s you see making a push for the top two rounds like Boivin and Goulet last year other than Hamer?

There are a couple of 5'9" offensive forwards who were ignored last year and are having great seasons this year: Chapleau (CCL) and Payusov (Châteauguay). Patrick Poulin's son was ignored at last year's draft but is producing at 1 point/game pace and is 6'2" 190 pounds.

I do not see much for a top 2 rounder except maybe Jesse Hamer on Newbridge....going to be a little tougher for players to slip through the cracks now with the 16 year olds getting drafted until round 8 now.

Wee Baby Seamus 12-13-2013 09:02 PM

Any word on whether or not Michael O'Leary will come to the Q? He's playing at prep school, will he want to take the NCAA route?

scoutman1 12-13-2013 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wee Baby Seamus (Post 76115995)
Any word on whether or not Michael O'Leary will come to the Q? He's playing at prep school, will he want to take the NCAA route?

personally I do not know yet but I will say speaking with his father many times he is always talking about what is best for his sons education and though CHL has a good school program when a player is concentrated 100% on school well you have to think he is going NCAA but could have a short list of teams he would play for.

Kimo 12-15-2013 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scoutman1 (Post 75989317)
1A. Chad Krys--D--New Jersey Rockets U16 5'11/170 14 06 14 20 If Krys says he is coming to the QMJHL he will be the 1st overall pick in the draft but i am not sure the verdict on him yet.
1B. Mitchell Balmas—F—Cape Tradesman 6’01/168 20 15 23 38
2. Evan Fitzpatrick—G—Newbridge 6’02/170 09 04 1.90 .940
3. Michael Campoli—D—Lac St Louis 6’02/177 08 00 01 01
4. Jordan Maher—F—Centeral Ice Pack 5’11/158 20 21 20 41
5. Michael O’Leary—F—Salisbury 6’00/155 00 00 00 00
6. Keith Getson—F—South Shore 6’00/180 24 16 10 26
7. Samuel Girard—D—Jonquire 5’09/156 28 04 20 24
8. Pascal Laberge—F—Chateauguay 6’01/153 30 18 18 36
9. Brett Crossley—F—Shattuck U16 6’00/160 28 09 18 27
10. Felix Lauzon—F—Magog 5’08/165 25 08 18 26
11. Pierre-Luc Dubois—F—Notre Dame 6’00/153 28 13 15 28
12. Luke Green—D—Newbridge 6’00/155 25 12 11 23
13. Samuel Guilbault—F—Antoine-Girouard 5’09/161 31 09 16 25
14. Lucas Thierus—F—Vikings 5’10/170 27 18 08 26
15. Jesse Sutton—F—St Johns Private 6’00/171 18 17 07 24
16. Alex Arab—F—Cole Harbor 5’10/148 24 13 16 29
17. Raphael Santerre—F—Notre Dame 6’00/157 21 07 11 18
18. Matt Green—F—Newbridge 5’10/140 25 11 15 26
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19. Jacob Neveu—D—Amos 6’02/188 28 01 13 14
20. Peter Abbandonato—F—Montreal Royal 5’09/162 29 04 17 21
21. Guillaume Beck—D—Phenix 6’02/168 24 01 07 08
22. Ryan Brushett—F—Lac St Louis 5’11/160 28 09 10 19
23. Pascal Corbeil—D—Riverains 5’08/159 28 05 14 19
24. Sam Harvey—G—Jonquiere 5’10/172 02 07 3.48 .889
25. Yan Plourde—F—Miramichi 6’01/164 18 09 11 20
26. Miguel Picard—F—Notre Dame 6’00/157 27 08 12 20
27. Gabriel Bilodeau—D—Montreal Royal 6’00/158 28 01 12 13
28. Connor Peveril—F—Cole Harbor 5’11/145 24 10 14 24
29. Nick Sorgio—G—Salisbury 0’00/000 00 00 0.00 .000
30. Jean Gleizes—F—Toronto Marlies 5’11/160 00 00 00 00
31. Hunter Moreau—F—LSL Espoir 5’08/162 13 06 06 12
32. Domenico Argento—D—Montreal Royal 6’02/189 29 03 05 08
33. Mark Grametbauer—G—Cole Harbor 6’01/161 11 01 1.99 .935
34. Reilly Pickard—G—Halifax 6’00/173 09 03 2.41 .920
35. Jesse Hamer—F—Newbridge 5’09/175 23 20 17 37
36. Alexander Katerinakis—F—Royal 5’09/180 29 11 09 20

Scoutman , after spending 3 days at the Reebok challenge, I think you should re evaluate your rankings !!

scoutman1 12-15-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimo (Post 76210097)
Scoutman , after spending 3 days at the Reebok challenge, I think you should re evaluate your rankings !!

really!!! you watched three days of these guys and you know them better than watching them in many games.....well do not just tell me I have to re evaluate tell me where you would make the changes and why....remember never scout just off a three day tournament, any player can have a bad weekend or amazing weekend.

Bure 12-15-2013 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by scoutman1 (Post 76213033)
really!!! you watched three days of these guys and you know them better than watching them in many games.....well do not just tell me I have to re evaluate tell me where you would make the changes and why....remember never scout just off a three day tournament, any player can have a bad weekend or amazing weekend.

Off topic Scoutman but can you comment on D Graham's bounce back season with CHI so far. Did he reinstate his NHL potential.

Kimo 12-15-2013 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by scoutman1 (Post 76213033)
really!!! you watched three days of these guys and you know them better than watching them in many games.....well do not just tell me I have to re evaluate tell me where you would make the changes and why....remember never scout just off a three day tournament, any player can have a bad weekend or amazing weekend.

I question how many games you you actually scout !! You're ratings seem to be done by stats only and NOT by overall performances.

scoutman1 12-15-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimo (Post 76213497)
I question how many games you you actually scout !! You're ratings seem to be done by stats only and NOT by overall performances.

k I do not watch any games...you got me...I scout for a team but never watch games lol.........you are STILL not telling me who you would change on the list I made....so again give your opinion.

Kimo 12-15-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kimo (Post 76213497)
I question how many games you you actually scout !! You're ratings seem to be done by stats only and NOT by overall performances.

When you have guys like Bilodeau and Argento ahead of Sylvestre , Bourque , Beaudin on D I'm sorry their is something seriously wrong !! Sylvestre was probably the most dominant 98 D at the REEBOK Challenge ... Most Q scouts consider Sylvestre the best 98 defensive Defenseman in the league and he's not even in your top 36 , I was told that Sylvestre was chosen to represent Quebec at the U16 tournament in Chateauguay!! You say this kid can go in the 6th round him...


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