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Oilbleeder 02-07-2014 01:24 PM

Rumor Thread 3.0: Gagner fit for a King?
 
So Gagner to LA is the dominant rumor here.

The last few tweets:

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 3h
Oilers aren't eager to retain salary in Gagner trade and are believed to be receiving interest from other teams based on the buzz...

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger 3m
LA-Edmtn deal could still go down, but, what's the rush? Gagner is playing well and could fetch more at deadline or at the Draft.

Jimmy Murphy ‏@MurphysLaw74 3m
From a Kings source when asked if Gagner to Kings gets done: "If I'm a betting man, yes."

Jimmy Murphy ‏@MurphysLaw74 1m
Regarding last tweet, that Kings source didn't say Gagner to LA deal would be today but believes it gets done eventually.


I'll update it when possible

Yak City 02-07-2014 01:25 PM

~35 minutes to go, I'm getting the vibe that nothing is going to happen today.

Although I freaked out earlier when the Omark thread got bumped and I saw "confirmed with link... 6th round pick" :P

AlowlyOilersfan 02-07-2014 01:29 PM

been a rather uneventful ORFDD

oilersfan11 02-07-2014 01:30 PM

Looking more like he's not going to get traded today.

The Bored Man 02-07-2014 01:32 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but from various tweeds I gather that the Kings don't want to move:
- Toffoli
- Pearson
- Muzzin
- Martinez
- Zykov

And they want the Oilers to retain salary.

I'm no Gagner fan but maybe another team could offer something sweeter?

Oilbleeder 02-07-2014 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bored Man (Post 79563751)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from various tweeds I gather that the Kings don't want to move:
- Toffoli
- Pearson
- Muzzin
- Martinez
- Zykov

And they want the Oilers to retain salary.

I'm no Gagner fan but maybe another team could offer something sweeter?

Wait seriously? I've missed most of today, but all of those players are off the table?

Yeah I'll take my chances at the draft if that's the case.

Slats432 02-07-2014 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bored Man (Post 79563751)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from various tweeds I gather that the Kings don't want to move:
- Toffoli
- Pearson
- Muzzin
- Martinez
- Zykov

And they want the Oilers to retain salary.

I'm no Gagner fan but maybe another team could offer something sweeter?

This.

When I hear LA Kings fans/Bloggers/Media talk....

"LA is very interested in Gagner, as long as it's for almost free and the Oilers hold salary."

Oilers fans are all..

"Toffoli? Muzzin? Vey? Brown?"

Kings answer..

"No, we will only give you the 4th liner and maybe a 3rd. Your guy sucks and has no value."

Then why do they want him?

OilerFan4Life 02-07-2014 01:35 PM

Anyone listen to Stauffer today? He say anything?

OilerFan4Life 02-07-2014 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oilbleeder (Post 79563887)
Wait seriously? I've missed most of today, but all of those players are off the table?

Yeah I'll take my chances at the draft if that's the case.

Based on Stauffer's take and the "Mayor's list...we all assumed it was Clifford and Prokhorkin

Halibut 02-07-2014 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yak City (Post 79563365)
~35 minutes to go, I'm getting the vibe that nothing is going to happen today.

Makes sense, this is a fake deadline, teams can still trade later before getting to the playoffs. All trading for a player does now is put him on your payroll for a 3 weeks vacation.

Lindo 02-07-2014 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OilerFan4Life (Post 79563911)
Anyone listen to Stauffer today? He say anything?

He pretty much just referenced the Dreger tweets and said that it would have to be more than Clifford cause that doesn't make sense at all.

dssource 02-07-2014 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ponokanocker (Post 79561295)
The majority of people here believe our top 6 is way too soft. Perron is the only one with a real edge to his game and doesn't getted knocked on his butt when engaging physically. Gagner is the least valuable of the soft forwards, so they want him moved so that the Oilers can get some toughness in their top 6 to balance things out. I think the best time to move him will be at the draft when more teams will be interested in moving real assets.

Right. I get why we could/should move him. I just don't understand why some posters think we MUST move him. MacT has the upper hand here. Gags is a sough after commodity as the TDL approaches. MacT knows that and so do the other GMs. Either give us some value back or get lost! Clifford for Gags is a joke and everyone knows it. If that's what was really on the table, then there's your reason why the trade hasn't happened yet and won't.

Digger12 02-07-2014 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bored Man (Post 79563751)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from various tweeds I gather that the Kings don't want to move:
- Toffoli
- Pearson
- Muzzin
- Martinez
- Zykov

And they want the Oilers to retain salary.

I'm no Gagner fan but maybe another team could offer something sweeter?

IIRC this is typical Lombardi...he totally hoards every prospect he has and is very reluctant to part with them.

I remember this driving Sharks fans up the wall when he was their GM when they always seemed like they were one big 'now for futures' move away from going for the cup, and he just couldn't make himself do it.

The Nuge 02-07-2014 01:39 PM

I thought Martinez was available?

SephF 02-07-2014 01:39 PM

I don't see why LA would want to make the trade before the Olympic break, they'd have to pay Gagner 385k to just sit at home. Why not make the Oilers pay that then do the trade after if you're DL?

Moose Coleman 02-07-2014 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digger12 (Post 79564103)
IIRC this is typical Lombardi...he totally hoards every prospect he has and is very reluctant to part with them.

I remember this driving Sharks fans up the wall when he was their GM when they always seemed like they were one big 'now for futures' move away from going for the cup, and he just couldn't make himself do it.

Which is one of the reasons why its best to be very cautious when he offers up a prospect. Chances are, its one they don't have in the plans for a reason (see: Colton Teubert).

misfit 02-07-2014 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlowlyOilersfan (Post 79563605)
been a rather uneventful ORFDD

I don't really see why anyone thought there would be trades made on this day. The only way I could see this day having any impact would be if the trade involved any players named to their country's Olympic team. Otherwise, teams are just trading for a player they'll have to pay and take a cap hit for during the 3 week period of the Olympic break where the player can't play or even practice for them.

Digger12 02-07-2014 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bored Man (Post 79563751)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but from various tweeds I gather that the Kings don't want to move:
- Toffoli
- Pearson
- Muzzin
- Martinez
- Zykov

And they want the Oilers to retain salary.

I'm no Gagner fan but maybe another team could offer something sweeter?

If it were me in MacT's shoes, I'd be giving Lombardi the one finger salute via Skype as a thank you for wasting my time, since he's obviously not being serious about this.

IV XIV XCI 02-07-2014 01:43 PM

*jinx* warning.

Gagner will get (yet another) freak injury before the trade deadline and we lose out on a high(er) value trading opportunity.

OilerFan4Life 02-07-2014 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Nuge (Post 79564161)
I thought Martinez was available?

I'm not expert on the Kings but he seems like a steady 3rd pairing guy who can make a decent 1st pass.

oilersfan11 02-07-2014 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IV XIV XCI (Post 79564349)
*jinx* warning.

Gagner will get (yet another) freak injury before the trade deadline and we lose out on a high(er) value trading opportunity.

Guaranteed.


Gagner ain't going anywhere anytime soon.

Oilbleeder 02-07-2014 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OilerFan4Life (Post 79563967)
Based on Stauffer's take and the "Mayor's list...we all assumed it was Clifford and Prokhorkin

I don't think anyone will mistaken me for a Gagner fan. I don't consider him a top-6 C in the west. He's a winger on any playoff team. I think he's redundant here and his contract is crappy.

With that said, if your getting Clifford and Prokhorkin(???!?!?) for him, essentially 4th liner + garbage, there is no reason to trade him.

I was ok with Clifford + good asset, but Clifford plus nothing makes no sense. Trade him at TDD or the draft.

Hell see if Ottawa wants him (rumors of Spezza leaving etc.), or Toronto or some other team.

tinfish 02-07-2014 01:49 PM

I'm happy if we're holding on to him for now if the best return available is Clifford and a b prospect. If we then held on to money on top of that it would be just laughable. Sam Gagner's value will increase. He has had a very difficult season, but we all know he is a capable 2nd line C/RW that can put up 50 pts a season. He's young, and it sounds like there a skilled players who would be happy to play with him. The rumoured returns from LA just don't entice me at all.

OilerFan4Life 02-07-2014 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oilbleeder (Post 79564527)
I don't think anyone will mistaken me for a Gagner fan. I don't consider him a top-6 C in the west. He's a winger on any playoff team. I think he's redundant here and his contract is crappy.

With that said, if your getting Clifford and Prokhorkin(???!?!?) for him, essentially 4th liner + garbage, there is no reason to trade him.

I was ok with Clifford + good asset, but Clifford plus nothing makes no sense. Trade him at TDD or the draft.

Hell see if Ottawa wants him (rumors of Spezza leaving etc.), or Toronto or some other team.

Well, Prokhorkin has major upside....but the issue would be getting him to come over the North America. I think he's signed thru the 2015 season.

But he has disgusting skills.

Jimmi Jenkins 02-07-2014 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IV XIV XCI (Post 79564349)
*jinx* warning.

Gagner will get (yet another) freak injury before the trade deadline and we lose out on a high(er) value trading opportunity.

Quote:

Originally Posted by oilersfan11 (Post 79564493)
Guaranteed.


Gagner ain't going anywhere anytime soon.

I guess we can really only hope.


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