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PineJockey 10-02-2003 03:44 PM

Edmonton Scuttlebut
 
Hey, Pierre McGuire and Gord Miller were just interviewed in the Oilers pre-game show and talked a bit about the Avs.

Basically they said they were thin on d and said:

"If Martin Skoula was playing in Edmonton he would get booed off the ice. The fans here booed Tom Poti out of town and Skoula is a poor man's Poti".

Ouch.

They also talked about how Granato may not be up to coaching in the Western conference and that he got massively out-coached by Lemaire during last year's playoffs.

Finally, the were worried about how Granato was going to keep everyone happy, and noted that Hedjuk, the only 50 goal scorer in the league last year would likely be sitting on the bench during the beginning of the powerplays, and that Tanguay was going to "rot on the end of the bench".

Thoughts?

syinura 10-02-2003 04:02 PM

no way, hedjuk and tanguay will get plenty PP time

you could have

Line 1 PP

Tanguay Forsberg Selanne

Kariya Blake

Line 2 PP

Svatos? Sakic Hedjuk

Morris Liles

thats 2 damn good PP lines

Jori 10-02-2003 04:07 PM

Skoula does get booed at Avalanche games, I can attest to that. Perhaps not booed severly, but its there as are the cat calls. He is the whipping boy for most Colorado fans.

I wasn't much of a fan of the Granato hiring, but it was a typical Lacroix move. Funny when I watched them preview Vancouver on TSN yesterday I didn't hear things about Marc Crawford getting out coached by Lemaire :joker:

The thought the Avs having players who would not be happy with less ice time isn't new. I don't see it as a big concern because of the character of the players involved, but it can't be completely ignored. I think the lack of the depth on the Avs blueline is a bit overblown, not many teams are deep 1-6, but perhaps its a bigger deal because the safety net in Roy is gone.

andora 10-02-2003 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryansiu
no way, hedjuk and tanguay will get plenty PP time

you could have

Line 1 PP

Tanguay Forsberg Selanne

Kariya Blake

Line 2 PP

Svatos? Sakic Hedjuk

Morris Liles

thats 2 damn good PP lines

or mix and match to your pleasure, either way it's sick beyond belief :)

syinura 10-02-2003 04:16 PM

Tonite theyve got

Kariya Forsberg Hedjuk

Morris Liles

Line 2 PP

Tanguay Sakic Selanne

Blake Skoula/Foote

Zodiac 10-02-2003 06:17 PM

Pierre McGuire is the most annoying guy on TSN. Any time I've heard him talk about the Avs he always seems to focus on the negative. I can't stand looking at him or listening to his crap. I'd love to get him in the ring. Little bald *****.

dempsey_k* 10-02-2003 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PineJockey
Hey, Pierre McGuire

"SHOW ME THE MONEY" ... with the male pattern baldness.

Enough of Pierre, he's done.

I've heard him say something twice, both at the draft, luckily we're spared his drivel in the states for the most part. At least Melrose is comical and popular enough to chant "MELROSE SUCKS" when he bets against you.

Goulet17 10-03-2003 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PineJockey
Hey, Pierre McGuire and Gord Miller were just interviewed in the Oilers pre-game show and talked a bit about the Avs.

Basically they said they were thin on d and said:

"If Martin Skoula was playing in Edmonton he would get booed off the ice. The fans here booed Tom Poti out of town and Skoula is a poor man's Poti".

Ouch.

They also talked about how Granato may not be up to coaching in the Western conference and that he got massively out-coached by Lemaire during last year's playoffs.

Finally, the were worried about how Granato was going to keep everyone happy, and noted that Hedjuk, the only 50 goal scorer in the league last year would likely be sitting on the bench during the beginning of the powerplays, and that Tanguay was going to "rot on the end of the bench".

Thoughts?

And the point with this is?

Frankly if McGuire and Miller were this negative It sounds as if they feel the Avs are an awful team. Perhaps they think the Avs are overrated, but compared to who?

They can talk up Detroit, who critics can point out lost their best forward and have several key players pushing 40 years of age.

Perhaps they like Dallas, who lost their most physical defensemen and their longtime captain.

Vancouver? Have they significantly improved their team since last since? That is questionable, unless you count Hedberg as a playoff savior. And who knows if they will be as fortunate with injuries this season, particularly with Nazlund or Bertuzzi.

Maybe they feel Ottawa is appreciably better than the Avs, and I might agree with them if that is their view.

But the point is, if Miller and McGuire are essentially bashing the Avs as overrated, aren't they conveniently overlooking some of the question marks surrounding other potential "contenders".

I've sinced a trend this offseason that has emerged in both the media and on fan message boards such as here. Many people feel the Avs are unstoppable even going as far as to compare them to the 1980's Edmonton Oilers teams, while others feel they are vastly overrated and not a true contender. Whatever the view, it seems as if this Avs team evokes strong emotional responses from both fans and media alike.

How good are the Avs, only time will tell, but over the course of the season I imagine that it will be revealed that they fall somewhere in the middle of the often expressed extremes.


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