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nyr2k2 04-08-2014 06:48 AM

2013-2014 Rangers Prospects Thread *Part IV* (Player Stats in Post #1; Updated 6/17)
 

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JUNIORS PROSPECTS -- LHJMQ, OHL, WHL, Others
#PlayerPos.DOBH/WGamesGoalsAssistsPoints+/-PIMTeam/LeagueDraftedHF
57Donnay, Troy $ ARD2/18/19946'7"/1856621719+4092Erie Otters/OHLUDFA 2013 (NYR)5.5 C
10Duclair, A. $ AF8/26/19955'11"/18459504999+1956Québec Remparts/QMJHLR3 #80 2013 (NYR)7.0 C
     2101+20Team QMJHL/Super Series  
20Graves, Ryan $LD5/21/19956'4"/225262810+2216Val-d'Or Foreurs/QMJHLR4 #110 2013 (NYR)6.5 C
     393912-252Charlottetown Islanders/QMJHL  
     4022+14Val-d'Or Foreurs/Memorial Cup  
     2000-111Team QMJHL/Super Series  
19Tambellini, AdamF11/1/19946'3"/18531172239-310Calgary Hitmen/WHLR3 #65 2013 (NYR)6.5 C
     16224-531North Dakota/NCAA  
#PlayerPos.DOBH/WGamesWinsLossesOTLGAASV%SOTeam/LeagueDraftedHF
29Skapski, Mackenzie $G6/15/19946'3"/19253282042.70.9161Kootenay Ice/WHLR6 #170 2013 (NYR)6.5 D



COLLEGE PROSPECTS -- NCAA
#PlayerPos.DOBH/WYr.GamesGoals AssistsPoints+/-PIMTeam/ConferenceDraftedHF
22Bodie, Mat $ CLD3/7/19906'0"/165Sr.4083139+2857Union College Dutchmen/ECACUDFA 2014 (NYR)7.0 C
26Fogarty, StevenC4/19/19936'3"/207So.333811+110Notre Dame Fighting Irish/HER3 #72 2011 (NYR)6.5 C
39Haggerty, Ryan $F3/4/19936'0"/200Jr.35281543+742RPI Engineers/ECACUDFA 2014 (NYR)7.0 D
12Nieves, CristovalC1/23/19946'3"/200So.3431922+318Michigan Wolverines/B10R2 #59 2012 (NYR)6.5 C
2Skjei, BradyLD3/26/19946'3"/206So.406814+1530Minnesota Golden Gophers/B10R1 #28 2012 (NYR)7.0 C
      5011+50USA/World Junior Championship  



INTERNATIONAL PROSPECTS -- ELH, KHL, SHL, SML, SZLH, Others
#PlayerPos.DOBH/WGamesGoalsAssistsPoints+/-PIMTeam/LeagueDraftedHF
57Andersson, Calle $RD5/16/19946'2"/2074321012+210IF Malmö Redhawks/HAR4 #119 2012 (NYR)6.5 D
     8415+226IF Malmö Redhawks/J20  
     2101+20IK Pantern/D1  
89Buchnevich, PavelLW4/17/19956'1"/1614071118-112HC Severstal Cherepovets/KHLR3 #75 2013 (NYR)7.5 D
     7257+318Russia/World Junior Championship  
     2022+42MHC Almaz Cherepovets/MHL  
3Zámorský, Petr $RD8/3/19925'11"/1904471118+580PSG Zlín/ELHUDFA 2014 (NYR)6.5 C
     10033E12Czech Rep./World Championship  
     9000+54Czech Rep./Euro Hockey Tour  



NORTH AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL PROSPECTS -- AHL, CHL, ECHL, NHL
#PlayerPos.DOBH/WGamesGoals AssistsPoints+/-PIMTeam/LeagueDraftedHF
4Allen, Conor $LD1/31/19906'2"/2107262531-471Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLUDFA 2013 (NYR)6.5 B
     3000-10New York Rangers/NHL  
14Beach, Kyle $F1/13/19906'3"/21039257-1058Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLR1 #11 2008 (CHI)6.5 C
     7404+310Rockford IceHogs/AHL  
     7213-435HV71/SHL  
9Bourque, Ryan $F1/3/19915'9"/16874211637+1622Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLR3 #80 2009 (NYR)6.5 D
12Fast, Jesper $F12/2/19916'0"/18511000-52New York Rangers/NHLR6 #157 2010 (NYR)7.0 C
     48171734+1430Hartford Wolf Pack/AHL  
15Hrivík, Marek $LW8/28/19916'1"/19774131427+222Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLUDFA 2012 (NYR)7.0 D
     6000E0Slovakia/World Championship  
     2123+22Slovakia/International  
5Hughes, Tommy $RD4/7/19926'2"/21572279-534Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLUDFA 2013 (NYR)6.5 C
7Jean, Kyle $C3/1/19906'4"/2032441216-49Greenville Road Warriors/ECHLUDFA 2012 (NYR)7.0 D
     41224-529Hartford Wolf Pack/AHL  
11Kantor, Michael $RW2/2/19926'0"/19827000-8113Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLUDFA 2013 (NYR)5.5 C
     3033E12Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL  
29Kristo, Danny $RW6/18/19905'11"/18565251843E18Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLR2 #56 2008 (MTL)8.0 C
16Lindberg, Oscar $C10/29/19916'1"/19075182644+258Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLR2 #57 2010 (PHX)6.5 B
3McCarthy, Chris $F7/30/19916'1"/2008101+12Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLUDFA 2014 (NYR)6.0 C
     38182442+1612Vermont Catamounts/NCAA  
8McIlrath, Dylan $RD4/20/19926'5"/2206261117+2165Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLR1 #10 2010 (NYR)7.0 C
     2000-17New York Rangers/NHL  
10Miller, J.T. $F3/14/19936'2"/19530336-618New York Rangers/NHLR1 #15 2011 (NYR)7.0 B
     41152742+1047Hartford Wolf Pack/AHL  
29Nicholls, Josh $RW4/27/19926'3"/19463202242-320Greenville Road Warriors/ECHLR7 #182 2010 (TOR)6.0 C
     6000-40Hartford Wolf Pack/AHL  
8Noreau, Samuel $RD1/31/19936'5"/224611910+1690Greenville Road Warriors/ECHLR5 #136 2011 (NYR)6.0 C
     5000-16Hartford Wolf Pack/AHL  
18St. Croix, M. $RW4/10/19935'11"/17953173148-312Greenville Road Warriors/ECHLR4 #106 2011 (NYR)6.5 D
     13000-52Hartford Wolf Pack/AHL  
17Wilson, Jason $LW4/15/19906'2"/205546915-1232Wichita Thunder/CHLR5 #130 2010 (NYR)5.0 D
16Yogan, Andrew $LW12/4/19916'3"/203167815+122Greenville Road Warriors/ECHLR4 #100 2010 (NYR)6.5 C
     405510-350Hartford Wolf Pack/AHL  
#PlayerPos.DOBH/WGamesWinsLossesOTLGAASV%SOTeam/LeagueDraftedHF
31Missiaen, Jason $G4/25/19906'8"/2202114612.76.9191Greenville Road Warriors/ECHLUDFA 2011 (NYR)6.0 C
     1421113.83.8640Hartford Wolf Pack/AHL  
40Stajcer, Scott $G6/14/19916'3"/19682202.51.8930Hartford Wolf Pack/AHLR5 #140 2009 (NYR)6.0 C
     84402.89.9100Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL  
     41213.24.8930Gwinnett Gladiators/ECHL  
     21012.58.8910Florida Everblades/ECHL  



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2014 PLAYOFFS - JUNIORS PROSPECTS
PlayerGamesGoalsAssistsPoints+/-PIMTeam/League
Donnay, Troy14112-112Erie Otters/OHL
Graves, Ryan24178+1224Val-d'Or Foreurs/QMJHL
Tambellini, Adam6549+52Calgary Hitmen/WHL
PlayerGamesWinsLossesOTLGAASV%SOTeam/League
Skapski, Mackenzie103413.78.8820Kootenay Ice/WHL



2014 PLAYOFFS - INTERNATIONAL PROSPECTS
PlayerGamesGoalsAssistsPoints+/-PIMTeam/League
Andersson, Calle6101E0IF Malmö Redhawks/HA
 2000-20IF Malmö Redhawks/J20
Buchnevich, Pavel7459+312MHC Almaz Cherepovets/MHL
 6112-19HC Severstal Cherepovets/KHL
Zámorský, Petr14459+824PSG Zlín/ELH



2014 PLAYOFFS - NORTH AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL PROSPECTS
PlayerGamesGoalsAssistsPoints+/-PIMTeam/League
Fast, Jesper3011E0New York Rangers/NHL
Jean, Kyle157512+48Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL
Miller, J.T.4022+32New York Rangers/NHL
Nicholls, Josh186915+414Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL
Noreau, Samuel14044+829Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL
St. Croix, Michael1841115+76Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL
Yogan, Andrew1771118+522Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL
PlayerGamesWinsLossesOTLGAASV%SOTeam/League
Missiaen, Jason127312.12.9371Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL



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Previous Rangers Prospects Threads:
2013-2014 Rangers Prospect Thread *Part I*: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1465133
2013-2014 Rangers Prospect Thread *Part II*: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1563491
2013-2014 Rangers Prospect Thread *Part III*: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1597483

2012-2013 Rangers Prospect Thread *Part I*: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1200623
2012-2013 Rangers Prospect Thread *Part II*: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1303587
2012-2013 Rangers Prospect Thread *Part III*: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1374113
2012-2013 Rangers Prospect Thread *Part IV*: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1427553


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nyr2k2 04-08-2014 06:51 AM

This is what I wrote about Donnay, from the previous iteration of this thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyr2k2 (Post 82999417)
Other than being a stick, one knock on him was his skating. From reading what Erie fans have had to say about him this year, it sounds like he has come along way in that regard. He also seems to have become a little more physical and developed a bit of a mean streak. "Most Improved Player" is a something that seems to be pretty frequently associated with him. His shot is fine, pretty heavy as you'd expect from a guy that big. It's not quick though, and he's not much of a passer. That's not going to be his game. I've only seen him a handful of times this year (and really I just wanted to see McDavid and the kid Washington drafted), so take my scouting for what it's worth.

His last draft year, he was ranked like 110th or something among North American skaters (EDIT: 122nd in 2012). So, he was considered by many to be a mid-to-late round project pick. "You can't teach 6'7"," as they say. If he continues to fill out (he was listed at 170 when we signed him), then he has a decent chance to make it as a bottom pairing defender.

It's unclear, to me anyway, as to whether he'll go pro next year or head back to Erie for an over-age season.

He's an interesting player. The epitome of a project when he was signed. Still a long shot to make it, but his game has improved significantly. He's definitely in the Noreau/Hughes/Graves conversation in terms of developmental defensive prospects. I like him a little more than Hughes and Noreau, not quite as much as Graves. He's worth following though.

frisland 04-08-2014 08:24 AM

I though this was Donnay's overage season?

nyr2k2 04-08-2014 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frisland (Post 83001159)
I though this was Donnay's overage season?

He'll be 20 when next season starts, so he'll be eligible to play as an over-age player.

Raspewtin 04-08-2014 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyr2k2 (Post 82999475)
This is what I wrote about Donnay, from the previous iteration of this thread:



He's an interesting player. The epitome of a project when he was signed. Still a long shot to make it, but his game has improved significantly. He's definitely in the Noreau/Hughes/Graves conversation in terms of developmental defensive prospects. I like him a little more than Hughes and Noreau, not quite as much as Graves. He's worth following though.

I wouldn't call Graves a long term project. Not in the mold of Noreau or Donnay at least. He's already got great size and very good skating. So unless this team wants him to be Shea Weber, he's already got his defined skill set. Noreau and Donnay's are not as clear.

RangerBoy 04-08-2014 10:36 AM

Frozen Four on Thursdsay. Go Gophers. Old WCHA foe in North Dakota. Union facing BC in the other game. Toss up. No real favorite.

nyr2k2 04-08-2014 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raspewtin (Post 83005739)
I wouldn't call Graves a long term project. Not in the mold of Noreau or Donnay at least. He's already got great size and very good skating. So unless this team wants him to be Shea Weber, he's already got his defined skill set. Noreau and Donnay's are not as clear.

It's true, Graves' skill set is already somewhat developed, and that's what lead him to be drafted rather than undrafted like Donnay. Pretty much every guy picked in the mid-to-late rounds is a project to some degree, though, and Graves is no different. I think he's further along in his development (respective to his age) than Donnay or Noreau, but he still has plenty of work left to do.

I think Noreau's skill set is pretty clearly defined--he's a big, extremely physical, viciously tough defenseman who may not be mobile enough to succeed as a pro. His role is defined, it's just a matter of whether or not he'll be able to excel at it enough to make it. Remember, Noreau had a great year in Baie-Comeau last season, and garnered much of the same praise as we're seeing Graves receive this year.

Ola 04-09-2014 01:32 AM

Re the Calle Andersson talk in the previous thread. I think someone called him "meh", for a 4th round pick I don't disagree.

I like him because he has great size (around 220-230 lbs), and playing both offense and defense comes really naturally for him. Great one-timer slapper etc.

But his lack of jump and intensity in his game is holding him back. He is still really young, and the level he plays at is pretty dynamic. Sometimes he gets into trouble.

The key for him would have been to take a big step this season, instead he was hurt the entire off season and missed the entire pre season and first month or so of the regular season. That's showing.

I would love to be able to give him a little more time, because there is a lot of hockey in him, but I am not sure we afford that.

Blue Blooded 04-09-2014 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ola (Post 83061027)
Re the Calle Andersson talk in the previous thread. I think someone called him "meh", for a 4th round pick I don't disagree.

I like him because he has great size (around 220-230 lbs), and playing both offense and defense comes really naturally for him. Great one-timer slapper etc.

But his lack of jump and intensity in his game is holding him back. He is still really young, and the level he plays at is pretty dynamic. Sometimes he gets into trouble.

The key for him would have been to take a big step this season, instead he was hurt the entire off season and missed the entire pre season and first month or so of the regular season. That's showing.

I would love to be able to give him a little more time, because there is a lot of hockey in him, but I am not sure we afford that.

Could we pay him to switch identity with his younger brother? Pay Calle (and Rasmus to convince him as well) a few million to turn into "Rasmus Andersson" who is eligible for the 2015(?) draft, while "Calle Andersson" suddenly develops very well - almost as if he was a few years younger.

nyr2k2 04-09-2014 05:48 AM

The Rangers have plenty of contract spots after this season. I think Andersson, if he displays an interest in coming to North America, will get one. He has great tools. I think it's worth the risk.

RangerBoy 04-09-2014 05:53 AM

Quote:

That's a testament to Minnesota's defense. (Credit also should go to assistant head coach Mike Guentzel.) Sophomores Mike Reilly (Columbus Blue Jackets) and Brady Skjei (New York Rangers) have developed throughout the year - both also put on 10-15 lbs of muscle in the offseason - to the point where the duo are two of the better blue liners in the college ranks.

Reilly, this year's Big Ten Defenseman of the Year, is second on the Gophers in points with 32. Beyond the box score, he is capable of starting and leading a rush or being a power play quarterback. His chemistry with junior Sam Warning has led to a half-dozen goals on both ends. Skjei, meanwhile, is the defensive defenseman of the pair (which actually isn't a pair - they don't play together).

That would be good by itself, but what has really put the two on a different level lately is the multi-dimensional growth. Reilly has become a better defensive defenseman, no longer relying on his partner to cover his tracks. Skjei lately has also been growing into a two-way D, taking the green light, scoring with 3 of his 6 goals happening against Michigan in March, and even skating below the net and through the offensive zone to find a play.

http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2014...hampionship-if

Quote:

Seniors Parenteau and Holl have taken on a role of support for their defensive partners and standout sophomores Mike Reilly and Skjei. Junior defenseman Ben Marshall has stepped into a role of playing right and left defense with the Gophers freshmen defensemen, Michael Brodzinski and Jake Bischoff.

The unselfish group effort allows each of the seven defensemen to excel at what he does best, associate head coach Mike Guentzel said.

The most obvious success has come from the expedited development of Reilly and Skjei. Reilly has become one of the Gophers’ top scorers from the blue line with 32 points (nine goals, 23 assists). Skjei’s big frame and quality skating limits the impact of bigger opponents.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/go...prepage=1&c=y#

Another year of school wouldn't hurt Brady Skjei. McDonagh and Shattenkirk played 3 years of college hockey. They didn't need much AHL time after turning pro. BU won in Shattenkirk's sophomore year and he returned for his junior year.

Paulie Walnutz 04-09-2014 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RangerBoy (Post 83063351)
http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2014...hampionship-if



http://www.startribune.com/sports/go...prepage=1&c=y#

Another year of school wouldn't hurt Brady Skjei. McDonagh and Shattenkirk played 3 years of college hockey. They didn't need much AHL time after turning pro. BU won in Shattenkirk's sophomore year and he returned for his junior year.

The less time he spends in that cesspool known as Hartford, the better

eco's bones 04-09-2014 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyr2k2 (Post 83006363)
It's true, Graves' skill set is already somewhat developed, and that's what lead him to be drafted rather than undrafted like Donnay. Pretty much every guy picked in the mid-to-late rounds is a project to some degree, though, and Graves is no different. I think he's further along in his development (respective to his age) than Donnay or Noreau, but he still has plenty of work left to do.

I think Noreau's skill set is pretty clearly defined--he's a big, extremely physical, viciously tough defenseman who may not be mobile enough to succeed as a pro. His role is defined, it's just a matter of whether or not he'll be able to excel at it enough to make it. Remember, Noreau had a great year in Baie-Comeau last season, and garnered much of the same praise as we're seeing Graves receive this year.

Noreau has not been particularly vicious in his first pro season. 6 fights and around 90 penalty minutes. Early on in the year there was talk that he might go back to juniors--wasn't quite ready to be a pro. He seems to have made steady improvement this year. Not a lot of points but a very good +/- in Greenville. What he really needs to work on is skating--particularly maneuverability. It will take him a while to become an NHL player and that's an if--definitely no guarantees. There are a number of d-men in the NHL though who toiled for quite a while in the minors before they finally made it--a comparison for him might be someone like Matt Carkner or the somewhat smaller Deryk Engelland.

I think he's proven this year though that he can play his position fairly well at the ECHL level. He had a handful of AHL games and he wasn't a disaster. Hopefully he'll be able to make it to the AHL level next year or at least split time between the two leagues. Hartford called up Bretton Stamler from Greenville about half way through this year and he never went back. Stamler is already 26. He'd never played in the AHL before. He wasn't tearing up the ECHL by any means but he's a big physical player--kind of became Bickel's replacement.

nyr2k2 04-09-2014 06:32 AM

Donnay and Erie won last night. They swept Sault Ste. Marie and move on to the Western Conference Finals, where they'll face the winner of the Guelph-London series (Guelph is up 2-1). If it's Guelph, Donnay will have his hands full. The Storm has Kirby Rychel, Jason Dickinson, Tyler Bertuzzi, Scott Kosmachuk, Matt Finn and some other high NHL draft picks. They're loaded--finishing first in the OHL during the regular season and scoring a ridiculous 5 goals per game.

offdacrossbar 04-09-2014 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RangerBoy (Post 83063351)
http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/2014...hampionship-if



http://www.startribune.com/sports/go...prepage=1&c=y#

Another year of school wouldn't hurt Brady Skjei. McDonagh and Shattenkirk played 3 years of college hockey. They didn't need much AHL time after turning pro. BU won in Shattenkirk's sophomore year and he returned for his junior year.

another lefty dman. lots to like about his kids upside.

skjei should stay another year and have a good junior season. with his skating and simple dfirst play, i like him as a 3rd pair guy/call up after his season ends next year.

i really see no reason for him to go to hartford at all. physically hes big, he skates beautifully, makes good reads and understands the game blueline in. he thinks a simple d first game and hes played/will play alot of key minutes in big games.

hes way beyond the path that mcilrath had to take and hes the better prospect easily.

offdacrossbar 04-09-2014 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyr2k2 (Post 83063309)
The Rangers have plenty of contract spots after this season. I think Andersson, if he displays an interest in coming to North America, will get one. He has great tools. I think it's worth the risk.

i agree.

we have a huge opportunity for an offensive guy to come in and grab a spot. we literally have no one who seems to be able to lock that down.

staal, girardi and mcd are locks. stral and kleiner look solid. if stralman walks- and i dont agree with letting him walk, we have options and i guess klein moves into 2nd pair minutes.

moore and diaz are playing for a spot right now. one of those guys is toast.

i still dont like our lack of size on the blue line. too many 6'1 200 lb guys. i do love the youth of our blueline however.

mcilrath would address that size issue if he can play at an nhl pace.

NYR Viper 04-09-2014 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by offdacrossbar (Post 83073217)
i agree.

we have a huge opportunity for an offensive guy to come in and grab a spot. we literally have no one who seems to be able to lock that down.

staal, girardi and mcd are locks. stral and kleiner look solid. if stralman walks- and i dont agree with letting him walk, we have options and i guess klein moves into 2nd pair minutes.

moore and diaz are playing for a spot right now. one of those guys is toast.

i still dont like our lack of size on the blue line. too many 6'1 200 lb guys. i do love the youth of our blueline however.

mcilrath would address that size issue if he can play at an nhl pace.

McIlrath and SKjei should help with the size issue a bit. Both are big boys.

I actually think Allen has a very good shot at making the team next season. Very smooth with the puck

offdacrossbar 04-09-2014 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYR Viper (Post 83073815)
McIlrath and SKjei should help with the size issue a bit. Both are big boys.

I actually think Allen has a very good shot at making the team next season. Very smooth with the puck

brady isnt a camp 2014 guy imo.

still not sold on dylan playing more than a limited role next year if at all.

allen has the best chance i agree.

andersson has very good offensive skills. would love him to come to camp and get a looksee.

AHB* 04-09-2014 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYR Viper (Post 83073815)
McIlrath and SKjei should help with the size issue a bit. Both are big boys.

I actually think Allen has a very good shot at making the team next season. Very smooth with the puck

Allen, in his limited sample size, I thought could have stuck this year.

I'd prefer Skjei stay the extra year. It seems to be a growing trend to have guys move from college to the NHL/cusp NHL instead of spending a ton of time in the minor pros.

I think the NCAA is molding players well in terms of NA style of hockey and the Rangers necessary style. It's a damn good league these days.

NYR Viper 04-09-2014 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by offdacrossbar (Post 83074265)
brady isnt a camp 2014 guy imo.

still not sold on dylan playing more than a limited role next year if at all.

allen has the best chance i agree.

andersson has very good offensive skills. would love him to come to camp and get a looksee.

I agree, I don't necessarily agree that McIlrath won't be ready to start next year but if there is 1 spot open, it wouldn't surprise me to see Allen grab that spot. McI isn't that far off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AHB (Post 83074421)
Allen, in his limited sample size, I thought could have stuck this year.

I'd prefer Skjei stay the extra year. It seems to be a growing trend to have guys move from college to the NHL/cusp NHL instead of spending a ton of time in the minor pros.

I think the NCAA is molding players well in terms of NA style of hockey and the Rangers necessary style. It's a damn good league these days.

I agree, Skjei should stay one more year but he is 6'3 so he will eventually help

nyr2k2 04-09-2014 12:14 PM

I think that if we didn't possess the depth on defense that we do, Allen might have already been up for good.

NYR Viper 04-09-2014 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by nyr2k2 (Post 83075401)
I think that if we didn't possess the depth on defense that we do, Allen might have already been up for good.

Agreed. I think he would be playing on a few teams already this year

E-Train 04-09-2014 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by eco's bones (Post 83063759)
Noreau has not been particularly vicious in his first pro season. 6 fights and around 90 penalty minutes. Early on in the year there was talk that he might go back to juniors--wasn't quite ready to be a pro. He seems to have made steady improvement this year. Not a lot of points but a very good +/- in Greenville. What he really needs to work on is skating--particularly maneuverability. It will take him a while to become an NHL player and that's an if--definitely no guarantees. There are a number of d-men in the NHL though who toiled for quite a while in the minors before they finally made it--a comparison for him might be someone like Matt Carkner or the somewhat smaller Deryk Engelland.

I think he's proven this year though that he can play his position fairly well at the ECHL level. He had a handful of AHL games and he wasn't a disaster. Hopefully he'll be able to make it to the AHL level next year or at least split time between the two leagues. Hartford called up Bretton Stamler from Greenville about half way through this year and he never went back. Stamler is already 26. He'd never played in the AHL before. He wasn't tearing up the ECHL by any means but he's a big physical player--kind of became Bickel's replacement.

I think it was a smart move to keep Noreau in Greenville for the entire year. Since the short cameo in Hartford he's played in every game
and put up some points. I think the lack of fights is because of not finding many takers. Greenville games get pretty nasty but Noreau is rarely one of the combatants.

Hopefully, he's made some good progress with the skating and can carve out a spot on a 3rd pair down the road. Taking a shot with projects like this can't hurt.

RangerBoy 04-10-2014 04:58 AM

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The NHL’s salary cap era has forced Lucia to tweak his recruiting approach because, he says, teams prefer to sign players at a younger age. And every coach in every sport — with the exception of Kentucky’s John Calipari — swears by the value of experience and veteran rosters.

Does that mean the Gophers won’t continue to lose players to the NHL after one or two seasons? Of course not. It won’t be surprising if three players on this team — sophomore defensemen Brady Skjei and Mike Reilly and freshman forward Hudson Fasching — give serious consideration to turning pro.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/go...1&c=y#continue

A player signing an ELC at 21 needs 3 years of experience to be arbitration eligible. 20 needs 4. If the Rangers sign Skjei next week,he would need 4 years to be arg eligible. One factor. Stepan needed 4. 3 year ELC. Bridge contract. McDonagh needed 3. Big contract as a 2nd contract. He earned that 2nd contract but if the Rangers had some leverage on him,they could have forced him to take a 2 year deal like Stepan.

Lucia recruited more 3 and 4 year college players. He recruited Johnson and Kessel who were one year players. Okposo didn't finish his sophomore year. One and done. Bjugstad was a first rounder. He also stayed in school for his junior year to win after losing to BC in 2012. He stayed 3 years. Skjei is another first rounder.

shinchanyo 04-10-2014 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by offdacrossbar (Post 83073217)
i agree.

we have a huge opportunity for an offensive guy to come in and grab a spot. we literally have no one who seems to be able to lock that down.

staal, girardi and mcd are locks. stral and kleiner look solid. if stralman walks- and i dont agree with letting him walk, we have options and i guess klein moves into 2nd pair minutes.

moore and diaz are playing for a spot right now. one of those guys is toast.

i still dont like our lack of size on the blue line. too many 6'1 200 lb guys. i do love the youth of our blueline however.

mcilrath would address that size issue if he can play at an nhl pace.

At the very least most guys probably need to get acclimated to the speed difference and checking difference in the AHL first. It'd be hard for him to be a poorer decision maker than J Moore frequently is though so maybe he'll be fine jumping into those kinds of minutes


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