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Blind Gardien 05-25-2014 07:21 AM

2014 NHL Entry Draft Part 3
 
Continued from...

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh....php?t=1600147

Frank JT 05-25-2014 08:14 AM

Interresting conversation about McCarron. If I understand, McCarron need to improve a lot next year, and maybe the next one too, to convince us that he can be a good NHL player.

It's telling me that the Habs don't have, for now, a lot of talented players in the prospect pool to build a future strong team like LA, Chicago, Anaheim, Boston, etc.
We have some excellent young players already in the team (Subban, Price, Galcheniuk, Paccioretty, Gallagher, and maybe Bournival as a role player), so we have a good basis. We have some good prospects almost there (Beaulieu, Tinordi, Tokasky, Pateryn). We also have some deep for the bottom 6 and no. 5-6 or 7 D (Crisp, Holland, Vail, Gregoire, Ellis, etc.) but not a lot of sure elite talents (top 6, top 4D). Some got potential (McCarron, Hudon, De La Rose, Andrighetto, Bozon, Thrower, Dietz, etc.), but they are still long shots and only time will tell if they will be good enough for the NHL, or at the best, role players.

So what do we need for the next draft? The best players availables, yes. But we definitily need top 6 talent, with size if possible, and it will probably be the same for the draft of 2015.

Fozz 05-25-2014 09:19 AM

Speed and skill. Size is a bonus but overratted.

Le CH 05-25-2014 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fozz (Post 85609665)
Speed and skill. Size is a bonus but overratted.

I tend to agree with your overall assessment but given the number of undersized players with skill currently is our pool I'd say that there should be a size consideration. Not saying that size trumps skill and work ethic but that we probably shouldn't be drafting someone who is less than 5'10".

TopJet 05-25-2014 10:10 AM

What about Todd Bertuzzi (or whatever his first name is)

Frozenice 05-25-2014 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Habalier (Post 85610767)
What about Todd Bertuzzi (or whatever his first name is)

I think the player you're asking about was drafted last year by Detroit.

dcal64 05-25-2014 11:14 AM

Those speedy smurfs from LA are making a good case for not drafting big players :sarcasm:

TopJet 05-25-2014 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frozenice (Post 85612077)
I think the player you're asking about was drafted last year by Detroit.

ah, lol

and what a suprise detroit getting a great player outside round 1-2

Fozz 05-25-2014 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Le CH (Post 85609883)
I tend to agree with your overall assessment but given the number of undersized players with skill currently is our pool I'd say that there should be a size consideration. Not saying that size trumps skill and work ethic but that we probably shouldn't be drafting someone who is less than 5'10".

While we do have a number of small and skilled forward prospects, I don't find that we have many exceptionnal skaters, if any. That's my main problem with our current crop.

Frank JT 05-25-2014 04:49 PM

I still dream of a offensive power forward for this years draft. This is definitely agood year to find one in the top 20. We need a trade up (I don't include the top6-7 of every mock draft = cost too much...).

Nick Ritchie
Jake Virtanen
Brendan Perlini
Alex Tuch
Adrien Kempe

or even :
Kevin Fiala
Nikita Sherbak

If Timmins could have a pick between 10 and 20...

overlords 05-25-2014 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank JT (Post 85625217)
I still dream of a offensive power forward for this years draft. This is definitely agood year to find one in the top 20. We need a trade up (I don't include the top6-7 of every mock draft = cost too much...).

Nick Ritchie
Jake Virtanen
Brendan Perlini
Alex Tuch
Adrien Kempe

or even :
Kevin Fiala
Nikita Sherbak

If Timmins could have a pick between 10 and 20...

sherbak looks really interesting to me, from everything I've seen. I'm just not sure why so many have him ranked in the 20-30 range. He looks better than that, imo. Maybe someone else in here can fill me in.

SquiddFX 05-25-2014 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by overlords (Post 85626539)
sherbak looks really interesting to me, from everything I've seen. I'm just not sure why so many have him ranked in the 20-30 range. He looks better than that, imo. Maybe someone else in here can fill me in.

I don't know but maybe it's the Russian factor :dunno: It's a stupid reason to not draft a player imo. If he or Barbashev drop to us that would be great.

NLHabsFan 05-25-2014 05:47 PM

What happened to Pepin this year? He seems to have dropped a lot over the last year.

I thought this article had a good blurb on him and his struggles this year.

http://www.mckeenshockey.com/uncateg...-alexis-pepin/

ccgg 05-25-2014 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NLHabsFan (Post 85627237)
What happened to Pepin this year? He seems to have dropped a lot over the last year.

He was very liked last season, mainly because of his physical play and his size. But he began this season with over 20 pounds... of fat. He doesn't work hard in the gym and on the ice. He is very inconsistent. He doesn't have a good hockey sense. But he is physical and he has size and you can't teach that... well, the size at least. He has a good shot too. He is a little bit the Byfuglien of the Q, talented (at least the wrist shot) lazy fatso. I would take him in the 6th/7th round if he is still there... maybe in the 5th. He is a big disappointment, but I knew last year that he wouldn't go top-2 rounds because he has a poor hockey sense.

NLHabsFan 05-25-2014 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccgg (Post 85627645)
He was very liked last season, mainly because of his physical play and his size. But he began this season with over 20 pounds... of fat. He doesn't work hard in the gym and on the ice. He is very inconsistent. He doesn't have a good hockey sense. But he is physical and he has size and you can't teach that... well, the size at least. He has a good shot too. He is a little bit the Byfuglien of the Q, talented (at least the wrist shot) lazy fatso. I would take him in the 6th/7th round if he is still there... maybe in the 5th. He is a big disappointment, but I knew last year that he wouldn't go top-2 rounds because he has a poor hockey sense.

Thanks! He seemed to have a lot of hype coming into the Q, drafted 2nd overall. But his lack of dedication has really hurt him.

TopJet 05-25-2014 06:07 PM

said last thread, but henrik samuelsson?

Zaide 05-25-2014 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank JT (Post 85625217)
I still dream of a offensive power forward for this years draft. This is definitely agood year to find one in the top 20. We need a trade up (I don't include the top6-7 of every mock draft = cost too much...).

Nick Ritchie
Jake Virtanen
Brendan Perlini
Alex Tuch
Adrien Kempe

or even :
Kevin Fiala
Nikita Sherbak

If Timmins could have a pick between 10 and 20...

I think there is Anton Karlsson that could be available where we pick, if we do not trade up.

Jrham15 05-25-2014 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Habalier (Post 85628047)
said last thread, but henrik samuelsson?

he has already been drafted. No?

TT1 05-25-2014 06:32 PM

1:10 .. O_O


TT1 05-25-2014 06:32 PM


TopJet 05-25-2014 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jrham15 (Post 85628605)
he has already been drafted. No?

dont think so, i remember him being a early 2nd pick

DekeLikeYouMeanIt 05-25-2014 06:52 PM

A 1st round selection nonetheless. Some people should pay more attention.

SquiddFX 05-25-2014 06:58 PM

Henrik Samuelsson was drafted in 2012 27th overall by the Phoenix Coyotes...

Frank JT 05-25-2014 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaide (Post 85628487)
I think there is Anton Karlsson that could be available where we pick, if we do not trade up.

Could be a good pick if we are looking for a good energy guy for the 3rd or 4th line.
Not a bad pick. But if we are looking for a top 6, not sure...

TT1 05-25-2014 10:36 PM

karlsson's stock has been dropping alot recently


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