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KingWantsCup 05-29-2014 12:11 AM

The "Rags"
 
How do you feel about other fan bases calling the Rangers the "Rags"?

To be honest I want to say I don't care, but it is derogetory and if for example I went around constantly calling Philly "philthy" every time on main forums I would eventually get an infraction in all likelihood. So I guess the double standard aspect is what irks me more than anything else.

It also seems that a fair amount of other fans who call the Rangers the "Rags" genuinely don't understand that it's derogatory and that literally no Rangers fan ever refers to them as such.

I guess its really not a big deal, it's just a bit annoying between the double standard factor and the lack of people knowing it's not what we refer the team as.

Semi-rant over. :nod:

nyrleetch 05-29-2014 12:16 AM

Eh, I'm not a fan. People use it to mean negative things about us. It's rarely used to shorten Rangers, so it's not like Pens, Isles, because at least those make sense.

At the same time, I'm like you in the fact that it's not a big deal.

gmerger37 05-29-2014 12:26 AM

I find rags and the stupid rongos trend on HFNYR to be moronic.

Affinity 05-29-2014 12:28 AM

Most people use it because they're too lazy to type out Rangers so I really don't care.

Affinity 05-29-2014 12:30 AM

I mean really this is the fanbase that calls the Devils the Debbies.

Nash Money 05-29-2014 12:32 AM

Let's make it OUR word.

Also, never got the back story to rongos. Anyone care to help?

Barbara Underhill 05-29-2014 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Nash Money (Post 85792427)
Let's make it OUR word.

Also, never got the back story to rongos. Anyone care to help?

Never go full Rongo.

Last night they were the Rongos.

Nash Money 05-29-2014 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Barbara Underhill (Post 85792851)
Never go full Rongo.

Last night they were the Rongos.

Is that a Tropic Thunder reference where someone decided to to use rongo as a placeholder for "retard"? So now this board uses rongo as a proxy for mentally handicapped? If so, that's in extremely poor taste.

Cake or Death 05-29-2014 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Affinity (Post 85792361)
Most people use it because they're too lazy to type out Rangers so I really don't care.

Agree. My buddy is a long time Kings fan, who really loves our team this season, and he uses 'rags' in texts to me. This doesn't affect me... having grown up in NYC I'm already used to NY stereotypes everywhere I go.

Calad 05-29-2014 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Nash Money (Post 85793065)
Is that a Tropic Thunder reference where someone decided to to use rongo as a placeholder for "retard"? So now this board uses rongo as a proxy for mentally handicapped? If so, that's in extremely poor taste.

No, the "rongos" meme originated from the "dolan" meme. I never understood the connection other than it spilling over after hitting big on social media sites

Know your meme explaination

lbrowne 05-29-2014 02:18 AM

A bud of mine, who I also work with, who is also a Habs fan only calls the Rangers the "Rags"

To here it vocal elevates it beyond seeing it typed.

Fanned On It 05-29-2014 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Cake or Death (Post 85793143)
Agree. My buddy is a long time Kings fan, who really loves our team this season, and he uses 'rags' in texts to me. This doesn't affect me... having grown up in NYC I'm already used to NY stereotypes everywhere I go.

What does "Rags" mean, though? That's what I don't understand... like... how is it negative or stereotypical in any way?

Does it have to do with a woman's menstruation period? LOL that's the only thing I can think of.

Brainiac 05-29-2014 02:30 AM

Habs fan here. And yes, I do try to avoid derogatory terms whenever possible.

That being said, it's strange but "Rags" sounds less offensive than "Booins" or "Scabs".

I mean, if your team's nickname relate to a bloody and agressive time, you should be all for it! :handclap:

And then we wonder why there are so few ladies around here... :laugh:

Barbara Underhill 05-29-2014 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nash Money (Post 85793065)
Is that a Tropic Thunder reference where someone decided to to use rongo as a placeholder for "retard"? So now this board uses rongo as a proxy for mentally handicapped? If so, that's in extremely poor taste.

No, it is just used when they have one of those inexplicably bad out of character games. Usually a let down type of game. Has nothing to do with mental handicap. We're not animals.

Cake or Death 05-29-2014 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fanned On It (Post 85794139)
What does "Rags" mean, though? That's what I don't understand... like... how is it negative or stereotypical in any way?

Does it have to do with a woman's menstruation period? LOL that's the only thing I can think of.

Not sure, never really thought about it. I mean when you think about it, what the hell is a Ranger? I can't do this... I lost enough of my childhood trying to figure out what a Met and Knick were

KingWantsCup 05-29-2014 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fanned On It (Post 85794139)
What does "Rags" mean, though? That's what I don't understand... like... how is it negative or stereotypical in any way?

Does it have to do with a woman's menstruation period? LOL that's the only thing I can think of.

It implies poverty. Like the term "Rags to riches." Obviously the Rangers are not a poor team, but the connotation associated the term "Rags" is nonetheless negative. At least in my personal opinion.

Barbara Underhill 05-29-2014 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KingWantsCup (Post 85794583)
It implies poverty. Like the term "Rags to riches." Obviously the Rangers are not a poor team, but the connotation associated the term "Rags" is nonetheless negative. At least in my personal opinion.

Yeah, doesn't really bother me. I used to think it had to do with a different kind of rag.

Problematique 05-29-2014 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KingWantsCup (Post 85794583)
It implies poverty. Like the term "Rags to riches." Obviously the Rangers are not a poor team, but the connotation associated the term "Rags" is nonetheless negative. At least in my personal opinion.

I thought it was more to signal on your period kind of rag.

Khelvan 05-29-2014 04:00 AM

Who cares? It's the abbreviation that sounds the best out of any I can think of. I mean, who wants to call them the "Rangs" or the "gers?"

People abbreviate things that probably shouldn't be abbreviated (Such as "delish" or "bee tee dubs"). It can be annoying, but I don't really care what abbreviation they use, or why.

wolfgaze 05-29-2014 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Khelvan (Post 85794855)
Who cares? It's the abbreviation that sounds the best out of any I can think of. I mean, who wants to call them the "Rangs" or the "gers?"

People abbreviate things that probably shouldn't be abbreviated (Such as "delish" or "bee tee dubs"). It can be annoying, but I don't really care what abbreviation they use, or why.

NYR is even easier to type out than 'RAGS'....

More non-fans using 'Rags' now because it's becoming more commonplace with its usage....

KOVALEV022473 05-29-2014 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by wolfgaze (Post 85795397)
NYR is even easier to type out than 'RAGS'....

More non-fans using 'Rags' now because it's becoming more commonplace with its usage....

This! People are ridiculous to think
"Rags" has any other meaning than negative. If you really want to know the meaning then take a stroll over to the Devils board. I'm sure it's meaning varies to some but with many family and friends that are Devils and Islanders fans, the consensus is that it refers to an implement used during a woman's menstrual cycle!

Like Wolfgaze stated aboved, the easiest and fastest way to shorten The New York Rangers is NYR, period!

Glen Teflon Sather 05-29-2014 07:12 AM

Rags would offend me, but every time I see Rongos I do lirl. How did that start? Kind of like Byron Boy or whatever people were saying to make fun of Emrick's pronunciation.

haohmaru 05-29-2014 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by gmerger37 (Post 85792321)
I find rags and the stupid rongos trend on HFNYR to be moronic.

Rongos bothers me even more than Rags. Both are stupid if you're a NYR fan.

jerseyjinx94 05-29-2014 07:21 AM

Honestly, someone posted it above. It hasn't been addressed yet, but we call the Devils the Debbies. I don't care what other teams' fans call us, although I do agree that it is meant to be negative. Most of my Islander fan friends call the Rangers "The Rags" and not a single one of my Ranger fan friends calls us the Rags.

It is different than Pens. A lot of Penguins fans will call the Penguins the "Pens" and there is not a single derogatory notion from that (my sister calls them the "Gwins"). I do find it to be derogatory when people say "Rags," but in the end, I just don't care.

nyr2k2 05-29-2014 07:23 AM

I believe there are some people that really use just "Rags" as the diminutive for Rangers and don't mean it in any type of derogatory sense. However, I think the majority of people, particularly fans of other Patrick/Atlantic/Metro division teams, know damn well that it annoys many Rangers fans and use it gleefully to taunt and troll.

It doesn't bother me per se. It's just standard verbal jousting between fan bases. I'm a little bothered that there's a bit of a double standard when it comes to the term being used on HF, but that's an entirely different thing that I don't want to get into. :laugh:

Rongos is absolutely ridiculous, though I know my disdain for the term is part of the reason why some people here love to use it.


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