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NYR Viper 06-25-2014 12:11 PM

2014 Offseason - Roster Building / Trade Speculation Thread IV
 
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PLAYERS UNDER CONTRACT WITH NEW YORK RANGERS ORGANISATION 2014-2015 (30)
NEW YORK RANGERS SQUAD (13)
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted Age
1 F Stepan, Derek $3,075,000 RFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R2 #51 NYR (2008) 23
2 F Hagelin, Carl $2,250,000 RFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R6 #168 NYR (2007) 25
3 F Miller, J.T. (ELC) $1,244,167* RFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #15 NYR (2011) 20
4 F Fast(h), Jesper (ELC) $900,000* RFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R6 #157 NYR (2010) 22
5 F St Louis, Marty $5,625,000 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted 39
6 D Staal, Marc $3,975,000 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 NYR (2005) 27
7 F Dorsett, Derek $1,633,333 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #189 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006) 27
8 G Talbot, Cameron $562,600 UFA 2015 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 26
9 D Kline, Kevin $2,900,000 UFA 2018 New York Rangers/NHL R2 #37 Nashville Predators(2003) 29
10 F Nash, Rick (NMC??) $7,800,000 UFA 2019 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #1 Columbus Blue Jackets (2002) 29
11 D McDonagh, Ryan $4,700,000 UFA 2019 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #12 Montreal (2007) 24
12 D Girardi, Dan (NMC => NTC) $5,500,000 UFA 2020 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 29
13 G Lundqvist, Henrik (NMC) $8,500,000 UFA 2021 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #208 NYR (2000) 32

ASSIGNED TO AHL/ECHL (17)
Nr Pos Player Caphit Status Team Drafted Age
14 D McIlrath, Dylan (ELC) $1,295,000* RFA 2015 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R1 #10 NYR (2010) 21
15 F Yogan, Andrew (ELC) $800,000* RFA 2015 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R4 #100 NYR (2010) 22
16 F Lindberg, Oscar (ELC) $760,000* RFA 2015 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R2 #57 PHX (2010) 22
17 F Hrivik, Marek (ELC) $685,000* RFA 2015 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 22
18 D Allen, Connor (ELC) $1,775,000* RFA 2016 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 24
19 D Zámorský, Petr (ELC) ~$925,000?? RFA 2016 HC Zlin Undrafted (started w NYR) 21
20 D Hughes, Tommy (ELC) $608,333 RFA 2016 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 21
21 D Bodie, Matt (ELC) $925.000 RFA 2016 Union College Undrafted (started w NYR) 24
22 F Haggerty, Ryan (ELC) $925.000 RFA 2016 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 21
23 F Nicholls, J. (ELC) $709,167 RFA 2016 Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL R7 #182 Toronto Maple Leafs (2010) 21
24 D Noreau, Samuel (ELC) $685,000 RFA 2016 Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL R5 #136 NYR(2011) 21
25 F St. Croix, M. (ELC) $665,000 RFA 2016 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R4 #106 NYR (2011) 20
26 F Kantor, Michael (ELC) $583,333 RFA 2016 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 22
27 F Chris McCarthy (ELC) $692,500 RFA 2016 NCAA - U of Vermont Undrafted (started w NYR) 22
28 D Donnay, Troy (ELC) $716,667* RFA 2017 Juniors - London Knights/OHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 20
29 G Skapski, Mackenzie (ELC) $661,667* RFA 2017 Kootenay/WHL R6 #170 NYR(2013) 19
30 D Andersson, Calle (ELC) $661,667* RFA 2017 Zug Switzerland - loaned R4 #119 NYR (2012) 19
(31) F Duclair, Anthony (ELC-S) $820,000* RFA 2017 Juniors - Québec Remparts/QMJHL R3 #80 NYR(2013) 18
(32) D Ryan Graves (ELC-S) $660.000 RFA 2018 Juniors - PEI/QMJHL R4 #110 NYR(2013) 18

2014 OFFSEASON UFAs
Nr Pos Player Caphit 2013/2014 Team 2013/2014 Drafted Age Signed with New caphit
1 D Stralman, Anton $1,700,000 New York Rangers/NHL R7 #216 Toronto (2005) 27  
2 F Boyle, Brian $1,700,000 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #26 Los Angeles (2003) 29  
3 F Pouliot, Benoit $1,300,000 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #4 Minnesota Wild (2005) 27  
4 D Diaz, Rafael $1,225,000 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted 28  
5 F Moore, Dominic $1,000,000 New York Rangers/NHL R4 #95 NYR (2000) 33  
6 F Carcillo, Dan $825,000 New York Rangers/NHL R3 #73 Pittsburgh Penguins (2003) 29  
7 F Powe, Darroll $1,066,667 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted 28  
8 F Asham, Arron $1,000,000 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R3 #71 Montreal (1996) 35  
9 D Bickel, Stu $750,000 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted (basically started w NYR) 27  
10 F Haley, Micheal $600,000 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted 27  
11 D Johnson, Aaron $600,000 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R3 #85 Columbus Blue Jackets (2001) 30  
12 D Syvret, Danny $587,500 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R3 #81 Edmonton Oilers (2005) 28  
13 G LeNeveu, David $550,000 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R2 #46 Phoenix Coyotes (2002) 30  

OFFSEASON RFAs
Nr Pos Player Caphit 2013/2014Team Drafted Age Signed with New caphit
1 F Brassard, Derick $3,200,000 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #6 Columbus Blue Jackets (2006) 26  
2 F Kreider, Chris (ELC) $1,325,000* New York Rangers/NHL R1 #19 NYR (2009) 22  
3 F Zuccarello, Mats $1,150,000 New York Rangers/NHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 26  
4 D Falk, Justin $975,000 New York Rangers/NHL R4 #110 Minnesota Wild (2007) 25  
5 D Moore, John (ELC) $965,000 New York Rangers/NHL R1 #21 Columbus Blue Jackets (2009) 23  
6 F Kristo, Danny (ELC) $1,300,000* Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R2 #56 Montreal Canadians (2008) 23  
7 F Jean, Kyle (ELC) $925,000* Hartford Wolfpack/AHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 24  
8 F Bourque, Ryan (ELC) $900,000* Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R3 #80 NYR (2009) 23  
9 G Missiaen, Jason (ELC) $750,000* Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL Undrafted (started w NYR) 23  
10 G Stajcer, Scott (ELC) $700,000* Greenville Road Warriors/ECHL R5 #140 NYR (2009) 22  
11 F Wilson, Jason (ELC) $588,333 Wichita Thunder/CHL R5 #130 NYR (2010) 23  
12 F Beach, Kyle $550,000 Hartford Wolfpack/AHL R1 #11 Chicago Blackhawks (2008) 24  

PLAYERS STILL UNSIGNED BUT RIGHTS RETAINED BY NYR (there are likely a few more here I believe)
Pos Player Team Drafted Age
F Fogarty, Steven Notre Dame Fighting Irish/NCAA R3 #72 NYR (2011) 20
F Nieves, Cristoval Michigan Wolverines/NCAA R2 #59 NYR (2012) 20
F Adam Tambellini Calgary Hitmen/WHL R3 #65 NYR (2013) 19
D Skjei, Brady Minnesota Golden Gophers/NCAA R1 #28 NYR (2012) 19
F Pavel Buchnevich Cherepovets/KHL R3 #75 NYR (2013) 18

* - includes bonus money in contract
ELC - denotes player on Entry Level Contract
NTC - denotes No Trade Clause in Contract
NMC - denotes No Movement Clause in Contract

2014 DRAFT PICKS
2nd round NYR
3rd round NYR
4th round NYR
5th round Florida (for Casey Wellman)
6th round NYR

We lost our 1st rounder in 2014 in the Marty St Louis trade with Tampa Bay
We lost our 2014 5th rounder to San José in the Ryan Clowe trade in 2013 with San Jose as the predetermined conditions were met
The Rangers acquired Columbus’ 2014 6th round pick along with Derick Brassard, Derek Dorsett and John Moore from Colmbus in exchange for Marian Gaborik, Blake Parlett and Steve Delisle. The Rangers then traded Columbus’ 2014 6th round pick along with Benn Ferriero to Minnesota in exchange for Justin Falk.
We lost our 7th rounder in 2014 (conditional) to The LA Kings in the Danny Carcillo trade. Condition being that if Carcillo spends the rest of the season on the Rangers’ roster, Los Angeles gets the pick

2015 DRAFT PICKS
2nd round NYR
3rd round NYR
4th round NYR
6th round NYR
7th round NYR

We lost our 2015 1st rounder in the Marty St Louis trade with Tampa Bay.
We lost our 2015 5th rounder in the trade with Vancouver that brought us Rafael Diaz
Conditional picks in 2015 - We will receive a second-round pick in 2015 if Ryan Callahan is re-signed by Tampa Bay for the 2014–15 NHL season. But we will then also loose our 7th round pick.


BarbaraAlphanse 06-25-2014 12:12 PM

Hoping for some resignings today.

Stralman, Boyle, D Moore namely.

NYR Viper 06-25-2014 12:13 PM

Boyle makes some sense if Stralman has either priced himself out or won't re-sign. Short contract. PP QB. Slow-footed but has a lot of smarts similar to Andrei Markov.

Not anywhere close to my top choice but there are worse players out there.

NYR Viper 06-25-2014 12:14 PM

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Craig Custance ‏@CraigCustance 4m
Believe we'll see a deal done between Kings and Marian Gaborik today.
Former Rangers flying off the board

Elevate 06-25-2014 12:15 PM

I hope Glen called to say we want no part of Stastny. The thought of his price tag gives me nightmares.

pld459666 06-25-2014 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rust Heisenberg (Post 86920859)
Who has been on his lines? Duchene has played center. Landeskog w/ Duchene. MacKinnon just came up this year. ROR last year and played center for much of last year.

Stastny has had no one.

let me first sa that I like the idea of Stastny here in NY.

But I think if you are expecting him to come in and get back to the 70 point plateau you are going to be disappointed.

He's had better talent the last 2 years than his last 70 point season when he had Chris Stewart on his flank.

I think having a guy liks Stastny that is an improvement on Richards in just about every facet of the game is worth bringing him here, but lets not as fane do what we always do to these UFA signings, which is heap unrealistic expectations on them.

We get Stastny at 6x6.9 and he gives us 3 60+ point seasons, that's a win.

Expecting something from him that he has not done in 5+ seasons is not fair to him.

BarbaraAlphanse 06-25-2014 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NYR Viper (Post 86923015)
Boyle makes some sense if Stralman has either priced himself out or won't re-sign. Short contract. PP QB. Slow-footed but has a lot of smarts similar to Andrei Markov.

Not anywhere close to my top choice but there are worse players out there.

Personally, I'd like to trade Klein for a 2nd and sign Boyle to be on the 3rd pairing.

Limit his role. 8-10 minutes a game 5 v 5. 4-6 minutes on the powerplay. Optimize his skills.

After that, I'm hopeful we can keep everyone else consistent on this team, minus someone like Dorsett in place of someone like Winnik.

jcnyranger 06-25-2014 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rust Heisenberg (Post 86923257)
Personally, I'd like to trade Klein for a 2nd and sign Boyle to be on the 3rd pairing.

Limit his role. 8-10 minutes a game 5 v 5. 4-6 minutes on the powerplay. Optimize his skills.

After that, I'm hopeful we can keep everyone else consistent on this team, minus someone like Dorsett in place of someone like Winnik.

Wow - I said this earlier and got torched. Lets see if those same people that commented how much Dan Boyle sucks and would be a major disaster jump on you for this. :sarcasm::sarcasm: Cheers! :handclap:

Fletch 06-25-2014 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NYR Viper (Post 86923015)
Boyle makes some sense if Stralman has either priced himself out or won't re-sign. Short contract. PP QB. Slow-footed but has a lot of smarts similar to Andrei Markov.

Not anywhere close to my top choice but there are worse players out there.

there is the key. Richards was one PP QB, and for all his faults, over the course of the season was one of the better ones. At the end of the day, the PP failed, and a couple conversions in the SCFs could've made that series a bit more interesting, especially an OT PP goal. That could be a focus of Sather, but if a guy like Boyle comes, I'd think Stralman gets priced out. Just thinking about the numbers, which I don't know all too well, off the top of my head. Maybe they get a sense in these days, and if the sense is bad, they go hard at Stralman.Unless Klein is moved and Boyle comes at a similar cost. I don't know. Just throwing it out there.

RGY 06-25-2014 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rust Heisenberg (Post 86923257)
Personally, I'd like to trade Klein for a 2nd and sign Boyle to be on the 3rd pairing.

Limit his role. 8-10 minutes a game 5 v 5. 4-6 minutes on the powerplay. Optimize his skills.

After that, I'm hopeful we can keep everyone else consistent on this team, minus someone like Dorsett in place of someone like Winnik.

I really like Klein's game. He is on a very good contract. I'd prefer to keep him.

BarbaraAlphanse 06-25-2014 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jcnyranger (Post 86923449)
Wow - I said this earlier and got torched. Lets see if those same people that commented how much Dan Boyle sucks and would be a major disaster jump on you for this. :sarcasm::sarcasm: Cheers! :handclap:

I've been torched many times before. To answer your question... those same people will probably criticize me, as well.

You're not alone. In regards to Boyle, I think it would be an incredibly under the radar and useful move (to put him in that type of position).

Levitate 06-25-2014 12:22 PM

The problem with Dan Boyle is he's probably looking for a decently hefty contract considering his age and abilities. Do you want to pay him $5 mill or so to play 10 even strength minutes per game?

TheTakedown 06-25-2014 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rust Heisenberg (Post 86923257)
Personally, I'd like to trade Klein for a 2nd and sign Boyle to be on the 3rd pairing.

Limit his role. 8-10 minutes a game 5 v 5. 4-6 minutes on the powerplay. Optimize his skills.

After that, I'm hopeful we can keep everyone else consistent on this team, minus someone like Dorsett in place of someone like Winnik.

Actually I think you'd be better off letting Klein take Stralman's spot then putting Boyle on the 3rd pairing. GREAT stopgap to allow McIlrath to manuever his way onto the roster... much better than tying up $ into Stralman if that is the case.

This is, of course, dependent on how ready McIlrath is.

BarbaraAlphanse 06-25-2014 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RGY (Post 86923555)
I really like Klein's game. He is on a very good contract. I'd prefer to keep him.

True, but we need more offense man.

5 guys - 75 points.

Boyle increases that total to 100 + McDonagh's 45-50? Gets us right around the 150 mark that AV was used to in Vancouver.

I wanted 3 moves to be made. Boyle in for Klein. Winnik in for Dorsett. Maximize Staal's value now.

I'd settle for just the first two and be happy with this offseason. All 3 would be the perfect offseason for me.

I don't want too much meddling. But I want improvements, as well.

Boyle's 25 points over Klein are extremely helpful.
Winnik's size will help us.
Maximizing Staal's value shouldn't have the detrimental effects some people say it could have, and would be a move to help us now and for the future.

That's what I want. That's what I'm hoping for.

Hire Sather 06-25-2014 12:24 PM

Kings can re-sign Gaborik and Greene and the Rangers are just chillin. Just freakin chillin. No urgency to keep anyone.

offdacrossbar 06-25-2014 12:25 PM

stasny and boyle. if slats is kicking the tires good on him. both those guys make us better right way.

this is the new nyr's. we are in win now mode. we are in one player away mode. we have a window and slats may well be going for it. we laughed at our team earlier last season that we were in tear it down mode but a trip to the scf's changed that. we are a dangerous team. we need to get better.

hanks got 3-4 more top end years. msl is 38. we were in the scf last season. we are close. the core is there. add a few players and we make a serious bid to run the table.

if we add a stasny in the middle and a dan boyle to run the pp, we are a way better offensive team. both those guys address needs and both cost only money. slats doesnt want to move kids to get better. hell swap roster players to get better though.

if it means not reupping on stralman-bad move, moving brass, letting boyle walk and keeping staal. good. keep the core together.

im preparing myself for some serious moves from slats soon. he smells cup. he may well be going for it next season.

neil smith and keenan did it.

cant blame him one bit.

BarbaraAlphanse 06-25-2014 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Levitate (Post 86923625)
The problem with Dan Boyle is he's probably looking for a decently hefty contract considering his age and abilities. Do you want to pay him $5 mill or so to play 10 even strength minutes per game?

I think the trade off for Boyle would be getting a substantial amount of money, albeit less than a bottom-feeder team to play in a great city for a contender.

At this stage in his career, I think he can afford to let go of about 2-2.5 mill in place of playing for a team that allows him to hoist the cup one more time before he hangs his skates up.

haveandare 06-25-2014 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rust Heisenberg (Post 86923257)
Personally, I'd like to trade Klein for a 2nd and sign Boyle to be on the 3rd pairing.

Limit his role. 8-10 minutes a game 5 v 5. 4-6 minutes on the powerplay. Optimize his skills.

After that, I'm hopeful we can keep everyone else consistent on this team, minus someone like Dorsett in place of someone like Winnik.

I mean this is the least snarky way possible, but how much do you think they'll sign him for that it'll be worthwhile to play him so little? The guy is a vet who has put up big numbers from the back end. I can't imagine him going cheap.

pld459666 06-25-2014 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch (Post 86923499)
there is the key. Richards was one PP QB, and for all his faults, over the course of the season was one of the better ones. At the end of the day, the PP failed, and a couple conversions in the SCFs could've made that series a bit more interesting, especially an OT PP goal. That could be a focus of Sather, but if a guy like Boyle comes, I'd think Stralman gets priced out. Just thinking about the numbers, which I don't know all too well, off the top of my head. Maybe they get a sense in these days, and if the sense is bad, they go hard at Stralman.Unless Klein is moved and Boyle comes at a similar cost. I don't know. Just throwing it out there.

I don't put much stock into teh idea that the PP was better this year with Richards on the point.

I think the PP would have been improved based on the fact that we now had someone dedicated to addressing it as a concern where as Torts tolerated it.

Richards was still thinking the position to much for my liking.

I much rather perfer a player come in here and instinctually run the PP. And while Dan Boyle MAY have been that guy at one time, I think as players get older then tend to think the game more than play it and having a 37 year old Boyle here now would leave us with no better a PP than last year. No improvement and we get older.

BarbaraAlphanse 06-25-2014 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by haveandare (Post 86923955)
I mean this is the least snarky way possible, but how much do you think they'll sign him for that it'll be worthwhile to play him so little? The guy is a vet who has put up big numbers from the back end. I can't imagine him going cheap.

I can see him getting 2 years 10 million from someone like the Panthers. A tradeoff for playing for a better team would be 1 year 5 million or even 2 years 8 million.

He's made a lot of money over his career. He's not a guy who's looking to provide for his family, any longer. He's a guy at the last stages of his career who will likely value success over pay check.

I'm not saying he'll take scrub money, but a discount of 2-2.5 mill over the course of 2 years isn't out of the picture, at all.

haveandare 06-25-2014 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by offdacrossbar (Post 86923861)
stasny and boyle. if slats is kicking the tires good on him. both those guys make us better right way.

this is the new nyr's. we are in win now mode. we are in one player away mode. we have a window and slats may well be going for it. we laughed at our team earlier last season that we were in tear it down mode but a trip to the scf's changed that. we are a dangerous team. we need to get better.

hanks got 3-4 more top end years. msl is 38. we were in the scf last season. we are close. the core is there. add a few players and we make a serious bid to run the table.

if we add a stasny in the middle and a dan boyle to run the pp, we are a way better offensive team. both those guys address needs and both cost only money. slats doesnt want to move kids to get better. hell swap roster players to get better though.

if it means not reupping on stralman-bad move, moving brass, letting boyle walk and keeping staal. good. keep the core together.

im preparing myself for some serious moves from slats soon. he smells cup. he may well be going for it next season.

neil smith and keenan did it.

cant blame him one bit.

The thing is, the best team on paper doesn't necessarily win.

I'd way rather keep what we know works than try to exchange it for something that might work better, or might fail miserably.

Kahuna Nanu 06-25-2014 12:28 PM

Boyle is not the PPQB he once was. San Jose's PP was worse than ours...

BarbaraAlphanse 06-25-2014 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by azaloum90 (Post 86923767)
Actually I think you'd be better off letting Klein take Stralman's spot then putting Boyle on the 3rd pairing. GREAT stopgap to allow McIlrath to manuever his way onto the roster... much better than tying up $ into Stralman if that is the case.

This is, of course, dependent on how ready McIlrath is.

I think that McIlrath could conceivably be ready at any point during the season.

BarbaraAlphanse 06-25-2014 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianBoyle (Post 86924149)
Boyle is not the PPQB he once was. San Jose's PP was worse than ours...

Just adding the right handed shot in over Girardi and Richards will be a boost, in and of itself.

haveandare 06-25-2014 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rust Heisenberg (Post 86924073)
I can see him getting 2 years 10 million from someone like the Panthers. A tradeoff for playing for a better team would be 1 year 5 million or even 2 years 8 million.

He's made a lot of money over his career. He's not a guy who's looking to provide for his family, any longer. He's a guy at the last stages of his career who will likely value success over pay check.

I'm not saying he'll take scrub money, but a discount of 2-2.5 mill over the course of 2 years isn't out of the picture, at all.

I personally don't like the idea of moving Klein, who can be a serviceable 2/3 pairing guy for the foreseeable future, in order to get an equally expensive guy who will likely be useless in a year or two, and who will definitely have to be sheltered 5v5, and who doesn't have good foot speed, which is the hallmark of this team going forward.


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