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MiamiScreamingEagles 07-01-2014 05:26 PM

Free Agency 2014 (Part 2)
 
Open.

Part 1 -- http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...700677&page=40

The Couturier Effect 07-01-2014 05:28 PM

Conacher to the Isles.

StoneHands 07-01-2014 05:30 PM

Good signings IMO:

Jussi Jokinen at $4m for 4 years. Maybe a year too long but still solid.

Mason Raymond at $3.17 for 3 years. Seems to be the going rate for 40 point type 3rd liners.

Dan Boyle at $4.5 for 2 years. He's old but even as a second pairing PP specialist, this is better than most defenseman signed today.

Brad Richards for $2m on a one year deal. He doesn't have much left but for that price there isn't much risk.

Mathieu Perreault at $3m for 3 years. If he can stay on the ice this could be a great deal.

Christian Ehrhoff at $4m for 1 year. As much as I hate the Pens this could be a win-win for both. Ehrhoff could look like Niskanen if he gets PP time and could cash in for one last big deal next offseason.

I'm sure I forgot a couple but with all the terrible contracts thrown around today, these ones seem either fair or good to me.

TheLegendkiller 07-01-2014 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StoneHands (Post 87499035)
Good signings IMO:

Jussi Jokinen at $4m for 4 years. Maybe a year too long but still solid.

Mason Raymond at $3.17 for 3 years. Seems to be the going rate for 40 point type 3rd liners.

Dan Boyle at $4.5 for 2 years. He's old but even as a second pairing PP specialist, this is better than most defenseman signed today.

Brad Richards for $2m on a one year deal. He doesn't have much left but for that price there isn't much risk.

Mathieu Perreault at $3m for 3 years. If he can stay on the ice this could be a great deal.

Christian Ehrhoff at $4m for 1 year. As much as I hate the Pens this could be a win-win for both. Ehrhoff could look like Niskanen if he gets PP time and could cash in for one last big deal next offseason.

I'm sure I forgot a couple but with all the terrible contracts thrown around today, these ones seem either fair or good to me.


Ehrhoff, Letang, Maatta, and Martin are all like the same type of defensemen. They have no defensive d and nobody to clear the crease. The softness continues in Pittsburgh.

StoneHands 07-01-2014 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegendkiller (Post 87499683)
Ehrhoff, Letang, Maatta, and Martin are all like the same type of defensemen. They have no defensive d and nobody to clear the crease. The softness continues in Pittsburgh.

Soooo Grossmann for Ehrhoff?

GoneFullHextall 07-01-2014 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegendkiller (Post 87499683)
Ehrhoff, Letang, Maatta, and Martin are all like the same type of defensemen. They have no defensive d and nobody to clear the crease. The softness continues in Pittsburgh.

which is the opposite of the Flyers. little skill outside of Streit on the back end.

Appleyard 07-01-2014 05:50 PM

Ehrhoffs D is getting slightly underrated here... he is more than competent defensively. He has played pretty hard minutes, usually against 1st lines, as well as being their go to PKer and came out of them quite well... heck last year he somehow had positive Corsi on, and is always positive in Corsi rel.

deadhead 07-01-2014 05:51 PM

Puts some Flyer deals in perspective.

McDonald was a slight over pay, probably would get 5 years, $4.5M a year in this market, Stralman the closest comp.

Vinnie should be tradeable once Flyers pay the $2M bonus without having to take much money, a couple older wings got $4M a year who aren't any more productive (though they might be more mobile).

Gaborik, 32, resigned 7 years, $4.9M
Cammalleri, 32, 5yr, $5M
Gionta, 37, 3 yr, $4.5M
Jagr, 42, 1 yr, $6M

Adam Warlock 07-01-2014 05:59 PM

Still confused why Grossmann hasnt been trading yet.

SAINDON 07-01-2014 05:59 PM

Caps sign Niskanen 7 years, 5.75 AAV

The Couturier Effect 07-01-2014 06:02 PM

Randy Miller :laugh:

http://www.nj.com/flyers/index.ssf/2...fer_sheet.html

Quote:

PHILADELPHIA – Waiting to see what Flyers GM Ron Hextall has up his sleeve?

Here’s how he can do it:

Threaten the Columbus Blue Jackets that he'll sign restricted free agent Ryan Johansen to an offer sheet.

EDIT: I read a little further...this is the worst piece of **** I've ever read. :laugh:

Beef Invictus 07-01-2014 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mota (Post 87502317)
Still confused why Grossmann hasnt been trading yet.

He'll be worth more when the market is empty and there are still some teams looking to get a dman.

TheLegendkiller 07-01-2014 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoneFullHextall (Post 87500939)
which is the opposite of the Flyers. little skill outside of Streit on the back end.


Lack of skill was never their problem. Their defense has been soft for awhile and could get easily punished by teams with larger forwards on the forecheck. That wont change next year.

Philadelphia Ducks 07-01-2014 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Couturier Effect (Post 87502677)
Randy Miller :laugh:

http://www.nj.com/flyers/index.ssf/2...fer_sheet.html




EDIT: I read a little further...this is the worst piece of **** I've ever read. :laugh:

Jesus, what is this, haha.

Beef Invictus 07-01-2014 06:07 PM

That Miller article is one of the dumbest things I've ever read. It should have gone like this:


"Can the Flyers pull this off with their current cap situation?


No."

End of article.


Instead he says "sure" and then says we just have to do it extra sneaky-likes? What the **** is this? How are we going to offer him about 3-4 million and convince Columbus that it's actually many, many millions? Use Roman Numerals and hope they can't sort it out?

JDinkalage Morgoone 07-01-2014 06:08 PM

I thought Randy Miller was run out of town

Haute Couturier 07-01-2014 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLegendkiller (Post 87499683)
Ehrhoff, Letang, Maatta, and Martin are all like the same type of defensemen. They have no defensive d and nobody to clear the crease. The softness continues in Pittsburgh.

Not an issue if they can move the puck out of their own end.

LegionOfDoom91 07-01-2014 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beef Invictus (Post 87502719)
He'll be worth more when the market is empty and there are still some teams looking to get a dman.

Yeah that & there hasn't been any update but he still could be recovering from his surgery as well or at least the estimated recovery time frame leaves open the possibility.

Hollywood Couturier 07-01-2014 06:10 PM

**** it. we're going to sneakily offer sheet Johansen and Subban and the league will not even notice.

Beef Invictus 07-01-2014 06:11 PM

I like how Randy also assumes the Flyers org has the mindset of a spoiled child who isn't getting as much attention as it wants. How can they make a splash!?

Why do we need to make a splash?

LegionOfDoom91 07-01-2014 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDinkalage Morgoone (Post 87503311)
I thought Randy Miller was run out of town

He somehow landed another job with NJ.com earlier this year. He was covering the Devils at first but then towards the end there they made him start covering the Flyers for whatever reason. He's been writing Flyers related articles for a while now dating back to the spring.

Beef Invictus 07-01-2014 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood Couturier (Post 87503499)
**** it. we're going to sneakily offer sheet Johansen and Subban and the league will not even notice.

That's where we screwed up with Weber, we weren't sneaky with it.

Harold Bingo 07-01-2014 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beef Invictus (Post 87503745)
That's where we screwed up with Weber, we weren't sneaky with it.

:laugh:

I guess this is what happens when the Flyers don't make a "big splash", writers have to come up with their own bizarre theories.

chinatown81592 07-01-2014 06:16 PM

Quote:

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 2m

Kyle Quincey signs a 2-year deal with AAV of $4.25M with DET.
Really DET?

BernieParent 07-01-2014 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beef Invictus (Post 87503745)
That's where we screwed up with Weber, we weren't sneaky with it.

A fake cover sheet on the fax, like "Win a trip to Bahamas. Just sign the confirmation on next page" ?


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