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gars59 11-13-2005 08:29 AM

trade blues/habs
 
to st louis : zednik+souray
to mtl : mayers + brewer

brewer become ufa this years
mayers is a third, fourth liner
the contract of souray ended in two season
zednik is a scorer of 30 goal and have 29 years old



perezhogin-koivu-kovalev
higgins-ribs-ryder
bulis-bonk-begin
mayer-pleak-sundstrom
dagenais

markov-rivet
brewer-komisarek
bouillon-dandenault
streit

théo
danis/huet


i don't know line up of st louis

Psycho Papa Joe 11-13-2005 09:44 AM

IMO the value is there. Not sure if the Blues would want players who are so close to UFA status if they decide to deal Brewer. As a Hab fan I'd do the trade.

PockIsGoD 11-13-2005 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gars59
to st louis : zednik+souray
to mtl : mayers + brewer

brewer become ufa this years
mayers is a third, fourth liner
the contract of souray ended in two season
zednik is a scorer of 30 goal and have 29 years old



perezhogin-koivu-kovalev
higgins-ribs-ryder
bulis-bonk-begin
mayer-pleak-sundstrom
dagenais

markov-rivet
brewer-komisarek
bouillon-dandenault
streit

théo
danis/huet


i don't know line up of st louis


Why do you want to trade Zednik? He's been great with Koivu and Kovalev and scored some pretty big goals for us this year. Even is Brewer would be an improvement over Souray, I still don't want to trade one of our best scorer and clutchiest player to get a 3rd freakin' liner.... like we need another one.

Irish Blues 11-13-2005 10:23 AM

I still don't want Souray. Period. And I don't see the Habs dealing Zednik.

Psycho Papa Joe 11-13-2005 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irish Blues
I still don't want Souray. Period. And I don't see the Habs dealing Zednik.

You wouldn't want a guy that would be at worst, your second best d-man? Okay.

kimzey59 11-13-2005 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psycho Papa Joe
You wouldn't want a guy that would be at worst, your second best d-man? Okay.

Souray would be #3. Jackman and Backman would both be above him.

Psycho Papa Joe 11-13-2005 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimzey59
Souray would be #3. Jackman and Backman would both be above him.

That is extremely arguable. Do the standings not mean anything? At best they would all be in more or less the same class and would have more or less the same amount of minutes played. If they were all that, St. Louis wouldn't be where they are in the standings. Plain and simple, the Habs with Souray as their #2 are a far better team than the Blues with those guys as 2 and 3.

Spooky371* 11-13-2005 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gars59
to st louis : zednik+souray
to mtl : mayers + brewer

brewer become ufa this years
mayers is a third, fourth liner
the contract of souray ended in two season
zednik is a scorer of 30 goal and have 29 years old



perezhogin-koivu-kovalev
higgins-ribs-ryder
bulis-bonk-begin
mayer-pleak-sundstrom
dagenais

markov-rivet
brewer-komisarek
bouillon-dandenault
streit

théo
danis/huet


i don't know line up of st louis

No reason to trade Zednik.
And I dont want Brewer BTW.

FerrisRox 11-13-2005 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kimzey59
Souray would be #3. Jackman and Backman would both be above him.

Okay... I'll bite... how do you figure Christian Backman would be ahead of him?

kimzey59 11-13-2005 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FerrisRox
Okay... I'll bite... how do you figure Christian Backman would be ahead of him?


Well, let's see, maybe the fact that Backman has been the Blues best D man(by a rather large margin) this year.

Brewer has been bumped down to the #3 spot on our depth chart and Suoray would slot right into his spot on the depth chart. .

Marc-E- 11-13-2005 11:31 AM

:confused: Heuuh...What's that deal? Zednik is already superior in terms of trade value then Brewer. Brewer is a bit overated since he played with Canadian squad. He's a good d-men that's for sure. Souray is overated too, but I think the difference between those two defenders isn't enough to throw a Zednik and Mayers is an energy guy that you could find anywhere in the league...

rt 11-13-2005 11:41 AM

If I was St. Louis, I'd be all over this.

Blind Gardien 11-13-2005 12:47 PM

It looks sideways at best for the Habs to me... I don't see any incentive for a sideways move when the team is playing well. If things start to go into the tubes, then hey, maybe you start to argue that we need more energy or aggression up front (Mayers) and that Perezhogin can take Zednik's scoring spot, while Brewer might (arguably) be a long-term upgrade over Souray. It's not uneven in terms of player value, looked at that way, but I would file it under the category of "if it ain't broke..." for the Habs. (Whereas for the Blues, presumably if they do some kind of firesale, they will want key younger players like the Perezhogin, Komisarek types, not the already-established-FA-age types like Souray and Zednik).

trublu16 11-13-2005 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rt
If I was St. Louis, I'd be all over this.


Good thing you are not in St. Louis

trublu16 11-13-2005 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind Gardien
(Whereas for the Blues, presumably if they do some kind of firesale, they will want key younger players like the Perezhogin, Komisarek types, not the already-established-FA-age types like Souray and Zednik).

For what it worth, thanks for stating the already has been stated numerous number of times. But maybe some people will get it, eventually. But if people still do not understand the Blues are REBUILING. There is no hope for getting them to understand.

Hawerchuk9 11-13-2005 03:57 PM

No
 
From Mtl...no.

LastChancePrice 11-13-2005 04:06 PM

From montreal, NO!!!

yentlmania 11-13-2005 06:06 PM

A 4th line checking centre like Sillinger + Brewer will help with the Sens and Flyers, lets face it they are the competition and are on paper better squads given their depth. So if the Habs want to challenge they need another quality d man and a face off specialist like Sillinger. I would hate to see Sillinger and Brewer go but as better quality assets on the Blues, they in return would provide what we need, a top 6 winger/propsect ( Higgins) and an early draft choice ( #1 or #2). The east is going to see alot of activity closer to the deadline as past the top 3 ( Sens, Flyers, Habs) there are several clubs that could make some noise by plugging their gaps


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