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Kingz4life 11-24-2005 04:47 PM

Aaron Miller
 
I think it's time for this guy to get his props. He has arguably been our best defensive d-man. He plays a great position game and he is faster than what people think. He is smart, especially on the PK and most of all he is very physical and tough. Basically, this whole season, so far he has been the Aaron Miller we wanted out of Colorado. He doesn't get enough credit by Kings fans especially because of his injury history but the guy blocks so many shots and plays so physical that he gets injured, not because he's injury prone but because of the way he plays. He deserves the "A" he wears on his uniform.

Osprey 11-24-2005 05:02 PM

Agree. I've always been high on him. When so many fans were down on him during the lockout, I was amazed at the lack of faith. DT didn't lose faith, though, and it's paying off in a big way for the Kings.

Reaper45 11-24-2005 05:15 PM

I've always known he can play the way he has, it's just been that he hasn't stayed healthy. I still think we could've got more by trading him at the deadline a few seasons back rather than re-signing him.

Osprey 11-24-2005 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper45
I still think we could've got more by trading him at the deadline a few seasons back rather than re-signing him.

I think that he's worth more now than any return for him would've been. The Kings would've gotten only a bubble player or 3rd-rounder at best, I think. That would've been better than losing him, but he didn't flee the Kings when he had the chance. He stayed and signed a long-term deal with the team. That made the decision to keep him the right one, IMO. The Kings get to keep him not only for this season, but next season, as well. If the Kings had traded him, we'd all be talking now about the need for another stay-at-home defenseman. Besides, what price tag does one put on mentoring Gleason?

Reaper45 11-24-2005 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Osprey
I think that he's worth more now than any return for him would've been. The Kings would've gotten only a bubble player or 3rd-rounder at best, I think. That would've been better than losing him, but he didn't flee the Kings when he had the chance. He stayed and signed a long-term deal with the team. That made the decision to keep him the right one, IMO. The Kings get to keep him not only for this season, but next season, as well. If the Kings had traded him, we'd all be talking now about the need for another stay-at-home defenseman. Besides, what price tag does one put on mentoring Gleason?

Look at what we got for Schneider that year. Miller at the time was a better defenseman than Schneider. We would've got more than a 3rd for Miller when the NHL was far more defensively minded. I'm not saying we'd ahve got as much as the Schneider trade, but we'd have gotten quite a bit.

Osprey 11-24-2005 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper45
Look at what we got for Schneider that year. Miller at the time was a better defenseman than Schneider. We would've got more than a 3rd for Miller when the NHL was far more defensively minded. I'm not saying we'd ahve got as much as the Schneider trade, but we'd have gotten quite a bit.

Offensively-minded powerplay quarterbacks are coveted far more than stay-at-home defensemen. Just look at which kind of defensemen every playoff-bound team wants at the trade deadline (ex. Schneider, Blake, Gonchar, Leetch). In the playoffs, teams tighten up, anyways, and simple journeymen like Mike Commodore can be made to look very solid, so it could be argued that defensive specialists are less crucial in the playoffs and scoring defensemen (like Schneider and Neidermayer) are more crucial because scoring is harder to come by. I think that a 3rd for a stay-at-home defenseman who was due to be a UFA a few months later would've been more than enough. That's my opinion, though.

swinginutter* 11-25-2005 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper45
Look at what we got for Schneider that year. Miller at the time was a better defenseman than Schneider. We would've got more than a 3rd for Miller when the NHL was far more defensively minded. I'm not saying we'd ahve got as much as the Schneider trade, but we'd have gotten quite a bit.

I wont deny that i'm one of the Miller bashers. But i'm glad he's filling the bill when we originally signed him. I didn't really like the way he handled the contract situation.......but most players that enter UFA land handle it the same. He played a contract year, and forced the Kings hand. I still think he was awful his last two seasons, but i'm all for jumping on his band-wagon this year. Quite frankly he's been "NAILS"......and nothing else. I hope he continues on this path with the Kings.

As for the Schneider assessment, I don't agree one bit. His defense was and is beyond stellar and is comparable to Miller's this year. Difference is Schneider is a two-way defenseman that has a nasty side and can play very smart positionally. He became the number one defenseman in Detroit, but wasn't riding the same name tag that Lidstrom has. Lubo is following in his footsteps minus the nasty side...

Kearney 11-25-2005 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kingz4life
I think it's time for this guy to get his props. He has arguably been our best defensive d-man. He plays a great position game and he is faster than what people think. He is smart, especially on the PK and most of all he is very physical and tough.

You're supposed to be rooting for him to get injured. Get on board.


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