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outKast* 10-19-2003 03:05 PM

The Team after 5 games.
After 5 games, the Oilers see themselves top of the NW division and 3rd in the Western Conference. Right now this is all meaningless junk and i am planning to do this again at the 20-41-60-82 game marks.


Interesting Stats

- After being shut out twice, The Oilers have managed 15 goals in 5 games. That's 3.00 GPG, only being behind Ottawa, Colorado, and Los Angeles. If the Oilers only scored a couple goals in those games (cough* cough* against Calgary) we'd be on top of the NHL. But that's not the point. The point is that after 5 games, the Oilers are showing that they can score by comittee. We don't need a superstar to play for us. Hard work takes us where we need to be.

- Our defense has allowed 10 goals in 5 games, which isn't bad but not great. If we want to pull off an amazing 25th season, our defense needs to improve. We've played solid so far, but there's always room for improvement. Our top 4 needs to step up. Marty Reasoner has to score the "odd goal" like Marchant did, and play as well defensively. He needs to captain our checking line. Salo needs to play more consistent.

- We haven't blown any of our leads yet which is good, and hopefully it stays that way. We score most our goals in the third period now instead of being scored on in the third period.

Young Guns

I. Kovalchuk - 5gp 5g 2a 7pts
M. Hossa - 5gp 3g 3a 6pts
<b>A. Hemsky</b> - 5gp 1g 4a 5pts
R. Nash - 5gp 3g 1a 4pts
J. Spezza - 5gp 2g 2a 4pts
<b>R. Torres</b> - 5gp 2g 2a 4pts
E. Cole - 4gp 2g 2a 4pts
R. Fata - 5gp 2g 2a 4pts
V. Lecavalier - 3gp 1g 3a 4pts
P. Bergeron - 5gp 1g 3a 4pts
P. Bouchard - 5gp 1g 3a 4pts
B. Richards - 3gp 1g 3a 4pts
J. Thornton - 5gp 1g 3a 4pts

- The team got shut out twice but <b>Ales Hemsky</b> has still managed to pull off 5 points (1g 4ast) in 5 games. He hasnt played amazing nor has he stood out in any of the games so far. But anytime now he'll find his scoring touch that he had at the end of the year last year. He'll be making defensemen look silly with his wide variety of dekes. Ales is an intruging young man, and i don't think 60 points this season is out of reach for him. He's only getting better and better.

- The biggest surprise thus far has been <b>Raffi Torres</b>. He's done everything that the coaches have asked of him. He's tenacious and hits anything that moves. He has a knack for goals from difficult angles and he's very willing to play in traffic. He's speedy and can keep up with any of the Oiler forwards. His promotion to our first line is the reward for his hard work. Hopefully he can keep this up. Islander fans must be soo mad right now at Mike Milbury right now :D.

The Team Overall

- The Oilers are a good team who can compete with elite teams and play horribly against weaker opponents. One of the most important things the Oilers are lacking and will need in the playoffs is a definite first line. With MAC T's line juggling, we don't have a Smyth-Comrie-Carter (or a Smyth-Weight-Guerin) line anymore. The team has proven that they can score by comitee but they need a line they can count on every night to score a goal or two. The d corps has been solid but not great. They've given up odd man rushes that could have been costly (cough cough yes Mr. Brewer that means you). Goaltending was shaky at the start of the season but getting better day by day. My take on this is if the Oiler can play against all teams like they did against the avalanche on most games...then getting into the playoffs will be no problem. Hopefuly they can finnish 6-8th place in the Western Conference.

oilswell 10-19-2003 06:03 PM

Thanks for the interesting analysis.


Originally Posted by oilflip
Our defense has allowed 10 goals in 5 games, which isn't bad but not great.

Hmm, I'd be interested in seeing any kind of reasonable argument that can show:
  1. that 2.00 GAA isn't spectacular, and
  2. that 5 games is a statistically interesting sample size

(Comparison: the Jennings trophy winners last year had a 2.02 GAA.)

outKast* 10-19-2003 06:25 PM

i completely agree with you. When i mean improve our defense i mean cutting down the amount of shots against us and the having less odd man rushes where salo has to come up huge and save our a$$es for the fourth or fifth time during a game. Stats don't tell the whole story. Our defense this year if far from being as good as the one we had in 2001-2002 where we came 2nd place in the NHL in Goals against. I remeber a couple games that year when the opposition had 9 shots throughout the whole GAME!!! (can't remeber who) Now that's defense!

USC Trojans 10-19-2003 07:05 PM

another way to put it is...the Oilers have a 100% win record when they score a goal.

LoudmouthHemskyFan#2 10-19-2003 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by alzardnp1
another way to put it is...the Oilers have a 100% win record when they score a goal.

:laugh: i love it

oilers_guy_eddie 10-19-2003 07:59 PM

5 games is still much too soon, but as Oilflip says, there are some good signs here. The shutout losses to Calgary and Vancouver were disappointing efforts, but keep in mind that we had trouble with Calgary and Vancouver last season too.

Considering the changes this team has had to adjust to, we're looking better than I thought we would at this point. Just wait until we're firing on all cylinders!

McThome 10-19-2003 08:28 PM

The thing that the crap outta me (in a good, non-consitpated way :D ) is that Hemsky hasn't even played that good yet. He is going to improve this year (and of coarse he is going to have his fair share of struggles too) but if he limits the strugles, and can take his game another notch (and god knows this kid has ALOT of notches to go higher still) then I think we WILL see a near point/game season from him!

McJadeddog 10-20-2003 08:03 AM

after 5 games its really hard to tell anything.... i think we will all have a better picture of this team in another 10 games or so, but that being said ;)

yes torres has been a very welcome surprise, but i still dont think that he is 1st line material

hemsky hasnt "dominated" a game yet, but im not sure that he really will dominate too many games this year. the fact that se has 1p/game so far and has chipped in with a goal as well is very good to see. if anything this should show that he prolly wont have a softmore jinx and could score 60+ points this year. (which really would be quite remarkable for a 20 year old)

the thing is about this team is that the people that *should* be scoring havent been yet (dvorak, york, isbister). so if they ever get going i think this team could be decent and might make the playoffs. i still think dvorak could have a good year but the jury is out on isbister still for me.

all this will hing on salos play though... and until he gets his save percentage up around .910 or so, i wont be satisfied, because i dont think its too much to ask for your goalie to have an average save percentage.

Oiltalk 10-21-2003 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by ruffneck69
Oilflip what is this worthless garbage. How long did it tkae you to make...2 seconds? copy and paste my friend. kinda stupid to rate your team after 5 games. Don't you think it's way too early give the oilers the cup. I mean we all know the Oilers arent better than the Cannucks Sens, Flyers, Atlanta, Tampa, or Minnesota as of right now. Face it, we need to work hard to finnish sixth place.

Minnesota, and the rest of the teams don't have to work hard? Sure the Oilers have to work hard, but at the moment they are better than a team in Minnesota who has one win in six games after losing their two leading scorers.

Of course it's to early to worry about statistics, but unless your going to say something constructive yourself don't draw judgment on what others post.

Nice to have you aboard though, should be a better forum with both supporters and critics of the same team. :)

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