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C-Saku Koivu MTL 02-13-2006 10:27 AM

Scatchard to MTL PROPOSAL
 
What would it cost for MTL to get Dave Scatchard from PHO. Don't really know what they would like in return. Maybe Bulis who has 15G and 15A for 30PTS??

Guest 02-13-2006 10:36 AM

Scatchard has been taking a lot of penalties which has drawn the ire of several Coyotes fans, and his salary is overpaid, but that said I think the Coyotes would probably pass on a Bulis for Scatchard swap. They need a guy like Scatchard and that is why they are overpaying for him.

With the trade deadline coming up and the Coyotes no doubt purging the roster of most vets, Scatchard could be on the move, but it'd be a return that addressed the Coyotes needs.

The Coyotes are still sorely lacking in young prospects, especially scorers, so find a solid scorer under the age of 25 and that might get the Coyotes interested. There is plenty of defensive depth within the organization, but the Coyotes could also use a little depth in goal. When Cujo is traded, the franchise is left with Sauve & David LeNeveu in the nets and those are the only tenders under contract.

131313 02-13-2006 01:58 PM

Dave Scatchard as the Habs 3rd line center would simply be fantastic :) .

I was really pissed when the Bruins signed him last year , i wanted him soooo much.Very good on faceoffs , right handed , big , physical , defensively responsible , can kill PK , decent character and can score around 15 goals a year.Some may argue that he is overpaid but i would rather overpay for him than Radek Bonk because i think that he bring much more to the table.

If Bob have any chances to get Big Dave (depending of the cost of course) , i say go for it.

Darth Milbury 02-13-2006 02:08 PM

Scatch was my absolute favorite Islander. I hated to see him leave. :(

felixd 02-13-2006 02:25 PM

Scatch would definitely be a nice addition to Montreal's line-up. Zednik? I think the salaries are close to even.

Alberta Yote 02-13-2006 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by felixd
Scatch would definitely be a nice addition to Montreal's line-up. Zednik? I think the salaries are close to even.

The Coyotes aren't going to unload their veterans for anything other than young talent, prospects, draft picks. Zednik doesn't fit any of those categories.

C-Saku Koivu MTL 02-13-2006 03:08 PM

What about Plekanec. Habs fan and I would just hate to see him leave because he will be a good one. But getting Scatchard would be great too.

Alberta Yote 02-13-2006 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Saku Koivu MTL
What about Plekanec. Habs fan and I would just hate to see him leave because he will be a good one. But getting Scatchard would be great too.

What can you tell me about the young lad? He is a centre and we would need one coming back.

I'd do that deal. Young talent and additional salary flexibility for next year for the Yotes.

quebec_nordiques 02-13-2006 03:11 PM

Saku koivu

Freaky Habs Fan 02-13-2006 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Saku Koivu MTL
What about Plekanec. Habs fan and I would just hate to see him leave because he will be a good one. But getting Scatchard would be great too.

Bob Gainey said that he don't want to give up any prospects/picks in a trade so I don't thin Plekanec will leave anytime soon.

mrinsane 02-13-2006 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Saku Koivu MTL
What would it cost for MTL to get Dave Scatchard from PHO. Don't really know what they would like in return. Maybe Bulis who has 15G and 15A for 30PTS??


I think Cory Locke and Duncan Milroy for Scatchard can be a pretty good deal.. Scatchard is a defensive powerforward but with stupid penality He can kill himself.. but I think they are the only prospect available for him

Alberta Yote 02-13-2006 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by insane666
I think Cory Locke and Duncan Milroy for Scatchard can be a pretty good deal.. Scatchard is a defensive powerforward but with stupid penality He can kill himself.. but I think they are the only prospect available for him

That one I don't like. We have enough prospects that are starting to look like career minor leaguers. We'll keep Scatch if that is the return, it's not like he has to be moved.

Freaky Habs Fan 02-13-2006 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Alberta Yote
That one I don't like. We have enough prospects that are starting to look like career minor leaguers. We'll keep Scatch if that is the return, it's not like he has to be moved.

Yeah, for that return, you should keep Scatchard...

Locke is incredibly skilled and he could become a great small playmaker, but he's still so far away from the NHL

And Milroy, well, if he play one game in the NHL, it will be a great achievement for him...

The only way I could see the Habs gettind Scatchard is by giving Bonk or Ribeiro for him...that being said, I don't see that happening :D

MXD 02-13-2006 06:30 PM

Scatchard for Bulis, while they aren't exactly similar players, seems like a lateral move to me...

Chfan 02-13-2006 06:33 PM

As much as I would like Scatchard with the Habs, loosing Bulis would be horrible... I prefer giving Zednik... Bulis is an underated elite third liner.

rt 02-13-2006 06:54 PM

How many games has Dave Scatchard played for the Coyotes organization?

Puckhead58* 02-13-2006 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Saku Koivu MTL
What would it cost for MTL to get Dave Scatchard from PHO. Don't really know what they would like in return. Maybe Bulis who has 15G and 15A for 30PTS??


I would like to see Scatchard join the team...he would add some much needed size up front and we might be able to trade someone like Bonk to get him....which would be a winning situation.

beowulf 02-13-2006 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by C-Saku Koivu MTL
What about Plekanec. Habs fan and I would just hate to see him leave because he will be a good one. But getting Scatchard would be great too.

No thanks Pleaks is a long term player here and getting someone for the shorterm would have to be really worth it.

Alberta Yote 02-13-2006 07:28 PM

Say no to Zednik. And Bonk. And Ribiero. There is no reason for the Yotes to trade Scatch unless they can get a young NHL'er or acceptable prospects/picks back. Not someone else's problems or underachievers. He is signed for this year and I believe 2 more and he is valuable to the team as it is now, or in a veteran leadership role if they decide to go young and rebuild.

Guest 02-13-2006 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Alberta Yote
Say no to Zednik. And Bonk. And Ribiero. There is no reason for the Yotes to trade Scatch unless they can get a young NHL'er or acceptable prospects/picks back. Not someone else's problems or underachievers. He is signed for this year and I believe 2 more and he is valuable to the team as it is now, or in a veteran leadership role if they decide to go young and rebuild.

I feel like no one read my post because of all of these Bonk/Bulis/Ribs for Scatchard proposals.

The Coyotes would be interested in Pleks and some of the potentially great young scorers the Habs have, but little else from the active roster I'd think. Bonk, Bulis, or Ribs could always be part of the deal, but they would be a different part of the trade that isn't being addressed here.

mytor4* 02-13-2006 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alberta Yote
Say no to Zednik. And Bonk. And Ribiero. There is no reason for the Yotes to trade Scatch unless they can get a young NHL'er or acceptable prospects/picks back. Not someone else's problems or underachievers. He is signed for this year and I believe 2 more and he is valuable to the team as it is now, or in a veteran leadership role if they decide to go young and rebuild.

i think you are expecting way to much for a third liner.maybe you should just keep him if you think he is worth that much.people who want the world in return for a third liner i don't know?

XX 02-13-2006 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mytor4
i think you are expecting way to much for a third liner.maybe you should just keep him if you think he is worth that much.people who want the world in return for a third liner i don't know?

Maybe because he is considered one of the best 3rd line centers in the league? :dunno: I love what I have seen from him so far. Just has to stop with the penalties.

rt 02-13-2006 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mytor4
maybe you should just keep him...

Hey, thanks alot. That sounds great! I'm glad we could work something out. I know I'm happy. I hate to ask too much of you, but do you think there is anyway we can keep some more of our players? :sarcasm:

Psycho Papa Joe 02-13-2006 08:14 PM

He's a good player but I think people are severly overestimated the trade value of a low producing, highly paid 3rd liner.

hbk 02-13-2006 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Papa Joe
He's a good player but I think people are severly overestimated the trade value of a low producing, highly paid 3rd liner.

Isles fans are better informed to give this type of assessment but Scatchard IMO is arguably the best 3rd line center in the game, period.

He has 3 years at $2.1 million per annum left on his contract. Given what the Habs just gave Koivu and the subsequent that signing may have on all other teams, I'd say he can't really be considered overpaid.


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