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tinyzombies 10-23-2003 08:46 PM

Interesting comment by Isles crew about Julien
 
Julien didn't have the Habs practice ANY offensive plays until five days before the start of the regular season. They focused solely on D the entire pre-season... interesting...

KOMO_ROCKS 10-23-2003 08:58 PM

everything seems to be working great so far.....seems like good coaching by Julien

CrAzYNiNe 10-23-2003 09:02 PM

You win, it was the right call, you lose, well you get fired.

Habs 10-23-2003 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by KOMO_ROCKS
everything seems to be working great so far.....seems like good coaching by Julien

I'm very happy the Habs have put together a nice start. I guarantee if they play like they did tonight, and Theo does not stand on his head, the results will be different.

They cannot go into this defensive shell so early in a game, and expect to walk away with two points every night.

We were outplayed hard from the middle of the second period on.

Also, I hope they do something about the ice. It is an atrocity, and pathetic. Someone is going to get hurt.

KOMO_ROCKS 10-23-2003 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Habs

Also, I hope they do something about the ice. It is an atrocity, and pathetic. Someone is going to get hurt.

it was funny to see Peca falling all over the ice on the highlights :D

Habsolution 10-23-2003 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Habs

Also, I hope they do something about the ice. It is an atrocity, and pathetic. Someone is going to get hurt.

That's weird cuz last year I think we ranked on top for ice quality ...

Could it be deliberate ?

BTW didn't Koivu injure his knee after a hit by skating across bad ice ?

Habs 10-23-2003 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Habsolution
That's weird cuz last year I think we ranked on top for ice quality ...

Could it be deliberate ?

BTW didn't Koivu injure his knee after a hit by skating across bad ice ?

The ice in Montreal is usually top 3 in the NHL. This year, it's been horrible, as noted by the media and players.

Habs 10-23-2003 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KOMO_ROCKS
it was funny to see Peca falling all over the ice on the highlights :D

Ya, he almost did a face plant.

Darz 10-24-2003 04:32 AM

Anybody know the reasons behing the crappy ice this year????

PrairieHabber 10-24-2003 07:55 AM

The Edmonton Oilers typically rank no. 1 for ice quality year after year...they make speed a priority and it's reflected on their ice surface as well. I thought I had heard before that the Bell Centre's ice wasn't great.

Corey 10-24-2003 08:14 AM

The weather's colder in Edmonton?

Darz 10-24-2003 08:17 AM

The ice maker in Edmonton is widely know as the best ice maker in the world. He was brought in to oversee the ice at the Salt Lake games, and does alot of the big curling tournaments as well, I believe.

All-Star 10-24-2003 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Darz
The ice maker in Edmonton is widely know as the best ice maker in the world. He was brought in to oversee the ice at the Salt Lake games, and does alot of the big curling tournaments as well, I believe.

Is he the one with the pink hat in the Tim Horton's comercials?

Quagmier 10-24-2003 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Darz
Anybody know the reasons behing the crappy ice this year????

slower ice = slower neutral zone play = easier implementation of defensive system = Habs 5-2 :teach:

NWT Habs Fan 10-24-2003 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by All-Star
Is he the one with the pink hat in the Tim Horton's comercials?

Nope, that's Shorty Jenkins and he strictly does curling ice only (and championship curling ice only at that).

Marksman 10-24-2003 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Quagmier
slower ice = slower neutral zone play = easier implementation of defensive system = Habs 5-2 :teach:

Just add into your conspiracy theory - Dallas has had the same reputation of having soft ice and where did Mr.Gainey come from? Coincidence? :D

Corey 10-24-2003 12:02 PM

I didn't know Bob Gainey was an ice maker. However, Steve Shutt works for such a company. True (according to The Hockey News).

Rahan 10-24-2003 12:45 PM

Hum, off-topic, but I couldn't chose a thread where to express this:

It makes me sick when I see Juneau playing 20+ mins and then I see Ribeiro, Ryder, Hossa, etc. playing only 15-16 mins. You'd think they would try to give the responsibilities to the others and quit overusing Juneau for defensive play, and make the young guys do the job, but it seems like they only have faith in Juneau, and I hate this situation.

IMO, Juneau should be the one traded when Koivu gets back because of our logjam at center.

Slarou 10-24-2003 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Darz
Anybody know the reasons behing the crappy ice this year????

Maybe the ice is crappy cause the Habs are too HOT !!!

(sorry it's my first post and it's a bad joke, dont worry it will get better along the way, well I hope)

Physical HABuse 10-24-2003 01:38 PM

Speaking of the ice.....I noticed how bad it really was yesterday. As I was watching the game, I wondered if it's been kept lousy like this on purpose. I mean it was good ice last year, what could have changed? The crappier the ice is....the harder it is to beat the trap. I wonder if it's something that's been discussed with the icemaker, to keep it in this state on purpose. I'm just asking and wondering if stuff like that goes on.

Slarou 10-24-2003 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Physical HABuse
Speaking of the ice.....I noticed how bad it really was yesterday. As I was watching the game, I wondered if it's been kept lousy like this on purpose. I mean it was good ice last year, what could have changed? The crappier the ice is....the harder it is to beat the trap. I wonder if it's something that's been discussed with the icemaker, to keep it in this state on purpose. I'm just asking and wondering if stuff like that goes on.


The crappier the ice is... The crappier the show is. So from a marketing point of view, it would be an error and the two teams are playing on the same ice so I dont see how it could be an advantage, even if your playing the trap.

I also think the nhl would not approuve that kind of behaviour, there trying to make the players score more goals not the contrary (I'm talking about the NHL not Claude Julien)

Physical HABuse 10-24-2003 06:05 PM

I understand what you are saying......and I agree for the most part about putting on a good show. However, bad ice would be more detrimental to a good offensive team that likes to skate around and make nice passes. Bad could ice can be more detrimental to such a team (remember what Scneider's whining comments were). I think if you play a trap crappy ice allows you to be more effective in the neutral zone when the other team is unable to make effective passes to beat the trap. That's why I wondered. Anyway, I doubt that stuff goes on.

Kirk Muller 10-24-2003 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rahan
Hum, off-topic, but I couldn't chose a thread where to express this:

It makes me sick when I see Juneau playing 20+ mins and then I see Ribeiro, Ryder, Hossa, etc. playing only 15-16 mins. You'd think they would try to give the responsibilities to the others and quit overusing Juneau for defensive play, and make the young guys do the job, but it seems like they only have faith in Juneau, and I hate this situation.

IMO, Juneau should be the one traded when Koivu gets back because of our logjam at center.

I think there is a simple reason Juneau has had a ton of ice time. Ribeiro and Perreault cannot, and I mean CANNOT match up against most opposing top lines. A healthy Koivu can take heat of the checking line because he can at least for some shifts during the game, match up against the Thornton, Sundin lines. When Koivu is back don't be surprised to see Juneau playing about 15-16 minutes a game, but probably only 10 minutes at even strength.

Really don't expect much to change with respect to the ice time of others, unless of course someone is traded, and honestly Perreault is the most likely imo.


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