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Bignasti 11-03-2003 08:34 AM

Hurme the answer in goal?
 
Given that the Thrashers appear to be the frontrunner for Comrie

http://www.ajc.com/thrashers/content...3/03notes.html

and that they have an extra goalie, does it not make sense to include Hurme in a deal for Comrie?? I'd prefer him to Salo these days. Only problem is how to get rid of Tommy.

perhaps Hurme, Coburn, and Stefan for Comrie and Horcoff?

AVE MAN 11-03-2003 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bignasti
Given that the Thrashers appear to be the frontrunner for Comrie

http://www.ajc.com/thrashers/content...3/03notes.html

and that they have an extra goalie, does it not make sense to include Hurme in a deal for Comrie?? I'd prefer him to Salo these days. Only problem is how to get rid of Tommy.

perhaps Hurme, Coburn, and Stefan for Comrie and Horcoff?


I totally like your thinking on this trade, however I don't think we need to include Horcoff. Comrie should be enough.

outKast* 11-03-2003 08:42 AM

what about Thibault? with Leighton in net for the Hawks, and Thibault the new bench boy, why not trade a package for Thibault and we trade salo for a top 4 d man. :dunno:

dawgbone 11-03-2003 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oilflip
what about Thibault? with Leighton in net for the Hawks, and Thibault the new bench boy, why not trade a package for Thibault and we trade salo for a top 4 d man. :dunno:

What team will trade a top 4 d man for Salo? There is an abundance of goaltending in the league, but a shortage of quality defencemen.

outKast* 11-03-2003 10:36 AM

what about this?

To Phoenix:
Tommy Salo, Scott Fergusson, 3rd rounder

To Edmonton:
Paul Mara

Phoneix's goaltending is horrible. Salo is an upgrade over Bierk and will be the heir apparent for the starting job next year when Burke retires. It might work out for both teams. Ferguson brings the same package as Mara without the offense. He would be a good throw in to fill out Mara's spot.

Then we trade Chimera, 2nd for Jocelyn Thibaut.

T-could be an upgrade over Salo, he just needs to play more consistent. Overall he has better fundamentals than Tommy and is younger which could give JDD a couple more years to mature.

Thoughts?

outKast* 11-03-2003 10:38 AM

our lineup would look like so......

Isbister Smyth Hemsky
Torres York Dvorak
Moreau Reasoner Pisani
Horcoff Stoll Laraque

Brewer Mara
Smith Staois
Cross Semenov/Bergy

T-bo
Conks

it will only get better after be trade Mike Comrie for someone.

jofa 11-03-2003 10:48 AM

Hurme's not a starter goaltender. I think his stock is inflated as a result of playing on a strong Ottawa team, but he would flounder as a starter for a team like Edmonton where he would be expected to win games and play a ton of games.

Thibault would be better, but he's also also $3+ million goaltender, so we'd need to have Salo moved in order to bring in T-Bo, which could be a lot easier to say than to do.

Walsher 11-03-2003 11:04 AM

If Hurme is the answer - what's the question? If any back up is the answer it is Conklin. The Oilers wouldn't trade anything for another backup it doesn't make sense.

outKast* 11-03-2003 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jofa
Hurme's not a starter goaltender. I think his stock is inflated as a result of playing on a strong Ottawa team, but he would flounder as a starter for a team like Edmonton where he would be expected to win games and play a ton of games.

Thibault would be better, but he's also also $3+ million goaltender, so we'd need to have Salo moved in order to bring in T-Bo, which could be a lot easier to say than to do.

Thibault or Vokoun could be awesome goaltenders for Edmonton.

windowlicker 11-03-2003 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oilflip
Thibault or Vokoun could be awesome goaltenders for Edmonton.

based on what? lol

Master Lok 11-04-2003 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by windowlicker
based on what? lol

Agreed, why on earth would people always think that a player like Vokoun, Hurme, and Thibault would do better on our team than their current team?

All three keepers are not winning the job in their respective defensively bad teams (Nashville, Atlanta and Chicago), so why would you think they would improve if they came here where we give up defensive breakdowns and giveaways like Hallowe'en candy at Southgate Mall?

I wouldn't mind trading a pick for one of the BACKUP KEEPERs after all, LA got Cechmanek for 2nd round pick or something. But I woudn't give up the farm. I like what I see from Conklin and Deslauriers is coming up. I would however give a lot more for a REAL goaltender coming back (i.e. Luongo)

outKast* 11-05-2003 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neogeo69
Agreed, why on earth would people always think that a player like Vokoun would do better on our team than their current team? ...are not winning the job in their respective defensively bad teams, so why would you think they would improve if they came here where we give up defensive breakdowns and giveaways like Hallowe'en candy at Southgate Mall?

:teach: This thread is why i want Vokoun

http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?threadid=25678

I'm letting you off easy. You were comparing him to a back-up goaltender. A majority of those people took Vokoun or Turco and that thread is just a day old!

Master Lok 11-06-2003 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oilflip
:teach: This thread is why i want Vokoun

http://www.hfboards.com/showthread.php?threadid=25678

I'm letting you off easy. You were comparing him to a back-up goaltender. A majority of those people took Vokoun or Turco and that thread is just a day old!

Letting me off easy? Bring it on oilflip. you'd better have better evidence than a link to a discussion board. That's just fan opinion, and most fans are ruled by the "grass is always greener" scenario. Thibault and Vokoun are not bad keepers by any stretch, but I wouldn't necessarily think that Vokoun would dramatically improve our goalkeeping situation here, or is THAT much better than Salo. Vokoun has had ONE full season as the #1 keeper. Stat-wise, Vokoun had better stats than Salo last year, but I'm not about to write Tommy off yet.

As I said earlier, I'd be willing to trade for Vokoun (or Thibault) for a prospect but not for Comrie.

(games/so/gaa/win/loss/tie/pct)
Vokoun
1999-00 Nashville Predators NHL 33 1 2.78 9 20 1 0.904
2000-01 Nashville Predators NHL 37 2 2.44 13 17 5 0.910
2001-02 Nashville Predators NHL 29 2 2.69 5 14 4 0.903
2002-03 Nashville Predators NHL 69 3 2.20 25 31 11 0.918
2003-04 Nashville Predators NHL 10 0 2.56 4 5 1 0.905

Salo
1998-99 Edmonton Oilers NHL 13 0 2.31 8 2 2 0.903
1999-00 Edmonton Oilers NHL 70 2 2.33 27 28 13 0.914
2000-01 Edmonton Oilers NHL 73 8 2.46 36 25 12 0.904
2001-02 Edmonton Oilers NHL 69 6 2.22 30 28 10 0.913
2002-03 Edmonton Oilers NHL 65 4 2.71 29 27 8 0.899
2003-04 Edmonton Oilers NHL 10 0 3.32 4 4 1 0.868


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