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Leaf Lander 05-17-2006 02:00 AM

Top 50 Russian -All Time
 
Top 50 Russian Players -All Time

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Who do you think are the top russian players of All Time?

They can come from any era. Goalies Forwards or defence.
They can be NHL'ers current or retired.
They can be retired WHA players.
They can come from any european elite league.
They can come from red army moscow dynamo etc
They could had played internationally with russia in various hockey tournaments e.g. Olympics, World Championships, Spengler Cup, World Juniors, Canada Cup or World Cup.

Players choosen for the top 50 by you do not have to be in order.

You guys are the experts enlighten me Thanks

RedAce 05-17-2006 09:30 AM

#1 Kharlamov By far the best hockey player the world has ever seen.

SIBIR 05-17-2006 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RedAce
#1 Kharlamov By far the best hockey player the world has ever seen.

agree. no russian hockey player deserves it more.

Kaizer 05-17-2006 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RedAce
#1 Kharlamov By far the best hockey player the world has ever seen.

Bobrov and Tretiak should be higher, Imo.

sarcastro 05-17-2006 11:25 AM

I'm not very well-versed in Russian players pre-1990, so you'll have to forgive the question if it's ridiculous.

Where would the members of the Wings' Russian 5 rank? I know Fedorov and Larionov would probably be the highest. Just wondering.

Peter25 05-17-2006 12:45 PM

In no particular order


1. Slava Fetisov
2. Boris Mikhailov
3. Sergei Makarov
4. Valeri Kharlamov
5. Alexander Maltsev
6. Vladimir Krutov
7. Sergei Fedorov
8. Vladimir Petrov
9. Anatoli Firsov
10. Slava Starshinov
11. Alexei Kasatonov
12. Pavel Bure
13. Slava Bykov
14. Valeri Vasilyev
15. Andrei Khomutov
16. Alexei Kovalev
17. Sergei Kapustin
18. Sergei Zubov
19. Alexander Mogilny
20. Slava Luchenko
21. Igor Larionov
22. Vladislav Tretiak
23. Alexander Yakushev
24. Viktor Shalimov
25. Zinetula Bilyaletdinov
26. Alexei Yashin
27. Vladimir Konstantinov
28. Helmut Balderis
29. Gennady Tsygankov
30. Vladimir Vikulov
31. Vladimir Shadrin
32. Vasili Pervukhin
33. Viktor Zhluktov
34. Nikolai Drozdetsky
35. Vladimir Golikov
36. Vasili Pervukhin
37. Alexei Zhitnik
38. Sergei Babinov
39. Sergei Shepelev
40. Vladimir Malakhov
41. Valeri Kamensky
42. Sergei Gonchar
43. Nikolai Khabibulin
44. Alexander Gusev
45. Anatoli Semenov
46. Sergei Svetlov
47. Ilya Kovalchuk
48. Alexander Ovechkin
49. Alexei Zhamnov
50. Evgeny Malkin

Slitty 05-17-2006 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter25
In no particular order



No Bobrov?

-I think guys like Zhitnik, Yashin, ect dont deserve to be there.

Peter25 05-17-2006 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Slitty
No Bobrov?

-I think guys like Zhitnik, Yashin, ect dont deserve to be there.

Yes, I forgot Bobrov. Also guys like Venyamin Alexandrov, Alexander Ragulin, Alexander Almetov, Konstantin Loktev, Boris Mayorov, Yuri Lyapkin, Vitali Davydov, Viktor Konovalenko and Viktor Kuzkin could be added there.

As for Yashin and Zhitnik, I think they belong.

ryanghg 05-17-2006 09:05 PM

Top Russians in terms of talent? or just best players...(points etc)

TheZherdev 05-18-2006 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter25
In no particular order


23. Alexander Yakushev


I went to his hockey camp for a week, 3 years ago. Hes a really nice guy. Though he made my life a living hell when ever I made a mistake on the ice. ;)

Leaf Lander 05-18-2006 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ryanghg
Top Russians in terms of talent? or just best players...(points etc)


talent-skills skating shot offense defense
points career personal and team achievements

points is subjective a player in the nhl has achance to score more points then a player over in europe because we play more games in the nhl.

jekoh 05-19-2006 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter25
28. Helmut Balderis

... is Latvian.

Zine 05-19-2006 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter25
Yes, I forgot Bobrov. Also guys like Venyamin Alexandrov, Alexander Ragulin, Alexander Almetov, Konstantin Loktev, Boris Mayorov, Yuri Lyapkin, Vitali Davydov, Viktor Konovalenko and Viktor Kuzkin could be added there.

As for Yashin and Zhitnik, I think they belong.

Some of the players from the 50's should be there. Sologubov, Guryshev, Babich, Shuvalov and Tregubov are definetely top 50.

Leaf Lander 05-20-2006 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Zine
Some of the players from the 50's should be there. Sologubov, Guryshev, Babich, Shuvalov and Tregubov are definetely top 50.


Incedentially I just drafed Sologubov in te all time hockey draft. Quite the steal at pick 303.


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Originally Posted by jekoh
... is Latvian.


did he ever play for the USSR

TORRUS 05-20-2006 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Leaf Lander
did he ever play for the USSR

Of course. Many times. He should count.

bluejacketsfan13_97 05-20-2006 02:42 PM

What about Nikolai Zherdev?

TORRUS 05-20-2006 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bluejacketsfan13_97
What about Nikolai Zherdev?

:confused:

You know, there is/was more hockey than just in Ohio... :biglaugh:

bluejacketsfan13_97 05-20-2006 06:18 PM

well obviously!!!! :handclap: I know. I was just wondering because no one said any thing about him!!!!! :madfire: If i though there was only hockey in ohio i would have named other russians here but obviously i kno there is more! :dunno:

jekoh 05-21-2006 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by bluejacketsfan13_97
I know. I was just wondering because no one said any thing about him!!!!! :madfire:

It's top 50, not top 500.


As for Balderis, it says "Russian players", not "USSR players". Why not Irbe among the top Russian goalies while you're at it ?

Leaf Lander 05-21-2006 07:54 AM

if you want to sp;it up the country and do top 10 or top 25 lists for each country / teritory that belonged to the ussr go ahead.

Leaf Lander 02-03-2011 09:51 PM

anybody want to try now

MaxV 02-03-2011 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter25 (Post 5546127)
Yes, I forgot Bobrov. Also guys like Venyamin Alexandrov, Alexander Ragulin, Alexander Almetov, Konstantin Loktev, Boris Mayorov, Yuri Lyapkin, Vitali Davydov, Viktor Konovalenko and Viktor Kuzkin could be added there.

As for Yashin and Zhitnik, I think they belong.

A couple of active players that I think should also get consideration:

Pavel Datsyuk and Andrei Markov.

ozo 02-04-2011 08:04 AM

How do Russian members feel about Maxim Sushinsky? He's been solid in Russian league for many years.

cska78 02-04-2011 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ozo (Post 30653304)
How do Russian members feel about Maxim Sushinsky? He's been solid in Russian league for many years.

Sushinksiy in top-50? no way in hell

Yakushev72 02-04-2011 04:47 PM

Yakushev 72
 
Just a few other names to consider: Aleksandr Golikov, Aleksandr Skvortsov, Mikhail Varnakov, and Viktor Tjumenev were consistently good on national and club teams.


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