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sushinsky4tsar 05-17-2006 11:14 PM

#16: Montreal on the clock
 
Sorry for posting another draft thread but I'm doing a board to board mock draft. I will keep the results updated in the mock draft board. I can't outlaw "outsider" votes, but that's okay as long as the vote is based on some informed opinion of the player's talent and organizational needs. No sabotage please! Make your selection with the Canadiens interest at heart. Tiebreakers will go into OT for one extra day.

*IMPORTANT* By this stage in the draft there are more realistic possibilities than polling options. I realize some people might take exception w/ some of the players I have included or left out of the poll. You can cast a vote for a player that isn't listed. You must select "other" in the poll, then write in "other: (player's name)" in this thread. Voting will end Friday at 6pm eastern.

Make your selection for the #16 pick (ignore trade possibilities). If there isn't a good fit and you want to trade, draft for value. The Habs are now on the clock. Good luck!



1) STL...... d E. Johnson 77-47-8-8-8-3 (Kessel, Toews, Staal, Backstrom, Frolik)
2) PIT....... c P. Kessel 73-12-9-7-2-1 (Toews, Staal, Backstrom, Frolik, Brassard)
3) CHI....... w J. Toews 30-9-8-2-1-1 (Backstrom, Staal, Frolik, Mueller, Okposo)
4) WAS..... c J. Staal 49-46-6-4-1 (Backstrom, Mueller, Frolik, Brassard)
5) BOS...... c N. Backstrom 53-13-3-7 (Mueller, Little, others)
6) CLM...... c P. Mueller 37-8-3-1-1 (Brassard, Frolik, Little, other)
7) NYI....... c D. Brassard 32-11-8-6-14 (Frolik, Williams, Okposo, others)
8) PHO...... rw K. Okposo 12-10-9-5-2-2 (Sheppard, Frolik, Little, Tlusty, others)
9) MIN...... rw M. Frolik 10-4-4-3-6 (Little, Sheppard, Tlusty, others)
10) FLO..... lw J. Sheppard 10-8-4-3-2-4 (Sang., Williams, Little, Tlusty, others)
11) LA....... d B. Sanguinetti 23-14-12-9-7 (Tlusty, Williams, Little, others)
12) ATL..... c B. Little 24-5-3-4 (Williams, Tlusty, others)
13) TOR..... f J. Tlusty 45-9-4-4-12 (Williams, Stewart, Emmerton, others)
14) VAN..... rw C. Stewart 37-13-11-8-8-17 (Will., Forney, Wish't, Emmerton, o/s)
************************************************** *********
15) TB....... g R. Helenius 5*-5-4-10 (Forney, Williams, others)
16) MTL..... d T. Wishart 60-37-34-11-31 (Vishnevski, Williams, Giroux ,others)
*17)MIN.....
18) COL.....

link w/ upper CSB rankings:

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=244017

Artyukhin* 05-17-2006 11:27 PM

Ivan Vishnevsky

High flyin' Habs* 05-17-2006 11:30 PM

Raphael.

Watsatheo 05-18-2006 12:27 AM

alexandrov

montreal 05-18-2006 12:42 AM

I'd go for Patrick Berglund but one of Wishart, Summers or Vishnevsky would be good as well.

loadie 05-18-2006 12:53 AM

Williams please.

neopreneur 05-18-2006 01:22 AM

Constantin Braun

Rather Gingerly 1* 05-18-2006 03:49 AM

Nick Foligno

Ape Clutch 05-18-2006 04:24 AM

Nigel!! Him or Vishnovsky

We need a D, and I happen to think they are the BPA @ 16

its Great when the BPA fills a need :yo:

Toro 05-18-2006 06:41 AM

Vishnevsky or if he is taken then Summers, or Joe Ryan.

Nigel williams lack of hockey sense eleminates him for me.

Wishart can't skate well, which elimanates his for me as well.


Vishnevsky seems like the best choice skating, hockey sense, Offensive minded and not too small. Just needs a little help in the defensive end(that can be worked on).

He is already playing in North America too

didjuicythat 05-18-2006 07:18 AM

Berglund for me, so I voted "other".

Matrix 05-18-2006 07:47 AM

A Berglund fan now with what I read in the THN preview and what we've been hearing all around...

Blind Gardien 05-18-2006 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toro
Wishart can't skate well, which elimanates his for me as well.

FWIW, Wishart actually tested quite well at the Prospects game and looks like a surprisingly strong and agile skater for somebody with his big gangly frame. Skating is generally considered a strength for him. Decision-making and the lack of a killer instinct for somebody with his size would be the legitimate knocks.

Oh yeah. I voted Wishart. :)

Subban Fan 05-18-2006 08:07 AM

Ben Maxwell... :yo:

Beakermania* 05-18-2006 08:10 AM

Williams BPA and fills a need for us in Defence.

didjuicythat 05-18-2006 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beakermania
Williams BPA and fills a need for us in Defence.

I guess the U.S. U-18 team management wouldn't see it that way... he had guys like Summers, McBain and Ratchuk in the line-up while Williams was watching from the stands. That doesn't sound very good to me if you consider that none of those three guys is expected to be a top-20 pick.

Let's not get too carried away with the guy's size here... this is the new NHL: smaller defencemen can have success.

Beakermania* 05-18-2006 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Chipchura
I guess the U.S. U-18 wouldn't see it that way... he had guys like Summers, McBain and Ratchuk in the line-up while Williams was watching from the stands. That doesn't sound very good to me if you consider that none of those three guys is expected to be a top-20 pick.

Everyone has different opinions, but CSB has him as their BPA at this point so thats what i went with, especially since he still fills the defence need. Never can have too many young d-men.

JF 05-18-2006 09:51 AM

Patrick Berglund

Fozz 05-18-2006 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyle Chipchura
I guess the U.S. U-18 team management wouldn't see it that way... he had guys like Summers, McBain and Ratchuk in the line-up while Williams was watching from the stands. That doesn't sound very good to me if you consider that none of those three guys is expected to be a top-20 pick.

Let's not get too carried away with the guy's size here... this is the new NHL: smaller defencemen can have success.

That doesn't mean Their games translate better to the NHL and that they will be superior players at that level. IMO, there's too much importance put in the U-18 on these boards.

Aarex 05-18-2006 10:08 AM

what did thn say about berklund

jester099 05-18-2006 10:25 AM

I say go for Eric Johnson with the 16th pick.

Marc the Habs Fan 05-18-2006 10:25 AM

Wishart for me if the draft goes this way. Williams will take YEARS to develop and like Kyle Chipchura said, he couldn't even get a regular shift at the U-18 for team USA. Sure you can dismiss that but it's still a concern.

Vishnevsky I like, but at the top prospects game he has moments and giveaways that made me think he's Ozolinsh more than Markov/Zubov. I wish I had seen him play in the Q this season.

Berglund I also like, but I would try to trade down a bit to get him if he's the Habs ''guy''....

Freaky Habs Fan 05-18-2006 10:53 AM

What's the hype on Berglund??? Don't know him at all...

Oh, and I voted for Wishart...but decision making and lack of a killer instinct really sound like Komisarek a year ago... :p:

Habs 4 Life 05-18-2006 10:55 AM

I say we move up the draft 6-7 or 8 and steal Folik if he is still there.This kid will be a superstar for sure and we can grab him because he won't go first overall

didjuicythat 05-18-2006 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fozz
That doesn't mean Their games translate better to the NHL and that they will be superior players at that level. IMO, there's too much importance put in the U-18 on these boards.

It's not about putting too much emphasis on the U-18s... the proof is most of us would still be satisfied with Wishart as our 1st round pick. But the fact that Williams was sidelined for the whole tournament does bring up some questions...


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