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Louis Houde 05-28-2006 02:12 PM

My genius plan
 
My genius plan


Okay, this is a crazy plan from myself.

1.Sign Huet 9 million 3 years
2.Sign aebischer because he cant refuse the 2.2 million offer.
3.Trade Aebischer & Souray for St-Louis & 1st 2006 pick( 15th).
4.Trade Bonk & Zednik for Yashin & 1st 2006 pick(7th) & 2nd 2006 pick(57th).
5.Trade Mike Ribeiro for washinton's 25th 2006 pick
6.7th :Derick Brassard ; 15th :Ivan Vishnevsky ; 16th : Ty wishart ; 25h: Yuri Alexandrov



The draft will be like this... so we'll be able to draft Derick Brassard
and also 3 great d-man!

1. Erik Johnson
2. Phil Kessel
3. Nicklas Backstrom
4. Jonathan Toews
5. Jordan Staal
6. James Sheppard
7. Derrick Brassard *HABS
8. Peter Mueller
9. Jiri Tlusty
10.Bryan Little
11.Kyle Okposo
12.Chris Stewart
13.Bobby Sanguinetti
14.Michal Frolik
15.Ivan Vishnevsky *HABS
16.Ty Wishart *HABS
17.Jonathan Bernier
18. Patrik Berglund
19. Michal Grabner
20. Michael Forney
21. Riku Helenius
22. Claude Giroux
23. Ben Maxwell
24. Jesse Joenssu
25. Yuri Alexandrov *HABS

7.
So we add :
1)Elite skillz
2)Offensive d-man
3)Shutdown d-man
4)Wise d-man

1)Brassard :
Scouts Take: "One of the oldest players available in the draft by missing the 2005 draft by less than ten days. Played in Drummondville of the QMJHL were he sparkled on a line with Montreal draft pick Guillaume Latendresse, as the two have that rare chemistry together. Montreal would be wise to take Derick in the first round if possible. Dominated in the Q this season and was just as good in the playoffs trying to cary Drummondville despite being slowed down by a broken wrist. Brassard has as much offensive upside as anyone outside of the top 5 players available in the draft and plays with a consistant passion every night. He has that confidence and desire to be an offensive threat every night. He's a fine skater, he doesn't have that elite gear but he's a deadly skater once inside the blue line. His agility is remarkable and he can really dance around on the ice, at times looks like a waterbug because he can just zip around in the blue line and is hard to contain. Dynamic one on one, has incredible skill level and can embaress defenseman with his sick moves, is creative with the puck on his stick and performs high light real moves game in game out. Fantastic play maker who thrived all year long feeding Guillaume the puck for easy goals, can make an amazing play stick handling the puck then without even looking can make a sweet dish and set up his line mates for easy goals, will be a huge asset on the power play. Is a threat not only to pass the puck but he's a natural goal scorer as well. He has a pro shot, releases the puck with little movement and his shot gets to the net quickly and he has some pin point accuracy. Likes to make a move to put the defenseman in front of the goalie creating a screen then gets his shot off catching the goaltender off gaurd. He consistently produces and every time I saw him play this season he was the most noticeable player on the ice. ISS compared him to Maxim Afinogenov, I like that comparison. So what are the knocks on this potential offensive stud? He's generously listed at 180 pounds and lacks strength in both the lower and upper body, he also doesn't have that balance that could cover up such a flaw. He tends to disappear in physical games, and although his offensive out put is consistent, his game away from the puck is not, although he has shown a better work ethic without the puck in his draft year. Brassard is slight and can be pushed around. Could protect the puck better. His defensive game leaves much to be desired at times, although I did see a new found effort in the playoffs even though he looked lost in his own zone at times, the effort was there. Also for every time he lifts you out of your seat with a play he'll also frusrate you by trying to get to cute with the puck. I feel he'll battle through those faults and will become a highly productive offensive player. I heard the same stuff about Ales Hemsky and PM Bouchard and they came out just fine. It will be interesting to see how much more his game can progress and how his game will translate to the NHL.
He reminds me a bit of Jeff Friesen at times and hopefully he can be more productive than Jeff down the road." *

2)Ivan Vishnevsky

Scouts Take: " Made the trip accross the ocean to play in the QMJHL this season, hails from Russia, and is the only Russian worth of being taken in the 1st round this year. Vishnevski is almost the complete opposite of the other Russian defenseman who has established himself with the Anaheim Ducks, Vitaly Vishnevski. Ivan is an offensive wizard on the back end and which ever team takes him will have him in mind for their power play down the road. Has impressive vision of the ice, keeps his head up even at full speed and makes quick decisions with the puck. Is able to hit a home run pass once in awhile sending a team mate in for the breakaway. Moves the puck crisply and with authority. Silky smoother skater with great wheels. Explodes out of the gate, is very agile with quick bursts, has an impressive top end gear, can weave around players when rushing the puck up on his own. Has good hand skills, stick handles like a highly skilled forward, has some dangerous moves and he is confident in using them. Has a quick release that he isn't afraid to use, loves to shoot the puck and does it well while in full speed. His shot gets high grades for it's accuracy but it lacks velocity. Uses his mobility to compensate for some of his defensive deficiencies. Flies all over his own zone and is way to aggressive on the defensive side, as he can tends to just skate and skate with little results time to time. Doesn't finish his checks often enough as he tries to poke the puck loose using his stick and than going offensive. Competes hard but needs to be coached on how to play defense properly as the effort is there but the know how isn't. Lack of size is an issue as well, at times will try to play the body but is ineffective and can get bulled over by strong opponents. For his offensive exploits I didn't see him get caught up the ice to often, once vs. the Quebec Remparts he busted his but back and caught up with one of the Q's best players in Alexander Radulov. His offensive talents are through the roof for a defenseman and he plays with urgency at both ends, how ever his defensive game is very raw. If you're picking in the bottom half of the first round and want a defenseman capable of producing offense Vishnevski would be a good pick." *

3) Ty Wishart 6-5 210 WHL Prince George 70-5-32-37

Scouts Take: " Every team needs a shut down defensive defenseman, and no one in this draft handles his own end better than Ty Wishart. Never sacrifices his defensive assignments, plays a protective stay at home style. Wishart is very savvy and has great awareness of the defensive zone. Makes strong plays in his own end by maintaining good position at all times. Is difficult to beat one on one, has an enormous wingspan, keeps a tight gap on his man, and always plays his mans chest, not the puck. Has a physical edge at times even though he could stand to be more physically aggressive, but as he matures and grows confidence he'll learn to use it more. Wishart reads the play well and takes away passing lanes with his long reach. Doesn't possess elite mobility, but for a defensive regard his size he's quite mobile. Can stay with the speediest forwards off the rush as he shows impressive gap control and uses his size to be tough to get around. Sturdy and well balanced with agile feet, Wishart can skate fluidly in any direction. He has a solid stride to grow into but he doesn't have that natural power and length on his stride that say a Braydon Coburn possesses. Makes the first pass out of the zone without turning the puck over, sees the ice well and doesn't rush into an errant pass, showing poise with the puck. Digests the play quickly and moves it precisely but isn't a game breaking puck moving defenseman, just keeps it simple. Doesn't have much for moves but handles the puck with a soft touch and looks comfortable handling it. Holds the zone well, shows good hand eye co-ordination. Has adequate power on his shot, releases it quickly which allows him to get it through to the net and likes to keep it a foot off the ice looking for tips and rebounds. Never sacrifices his defense for offense and doesn't get caught up the ice. Was very impressive this season playing for the Prince George Cougars and shined at the CHL top prospects game. However, he lacked engery and spirit and looked uncomfortable at the U-18's, still that is just a slight smudge though on an impressive season.”*

4)Yuri Alexandrov

Mature and poised defenseman. Impressive mobility and is swift on his feet, makes mature decisions with the puck and doesn’t panic, gritty in his own end. IIHF agreement hinders stock.Top russian prospect.*



7.2006's lineup



Higgins-Koivu-St-Louis
Perezhogin-Yashin-Kovalev
Kostitsyn-Plekanec-Ryder
Begin-Lapierre-Murray

Markov-Rivet
Cote-Komisarek
Bouillon-Dandenault

C.Huet


8. Discuss :D
*http://marcc.no-ip.org/xsharkie/

CareyClutch 05-28-2006 02:23 PM

too much money ( 9m for huet) for a back up..Aebi will be cheaper

znk 05-28-2006 02:25 PM

:innocent:

Habs13 05-28-2006 03:02 PM

Thats a small team...

Dan K 05-28-2006 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierredagenais
1.Sign Huet 9 million 3 years
2.Sign aebischer because he cant refuse the 2.2 million offer.
3.Trade Aebischer & Souray for St-Louis & 1st 2006 pick( 15th).
4.Trade Bonk & Zednik for Yashin & 1st 2006 pick(7th) & 2nd 2006 pick(57th).
5.Trade Mike Ribeiro for washinton's 25th 2006 pick
6.7th :Derick Brassard ; 15th :Ivan Vishnevsky ; 16th : Ty wishart ; 25h: Yuri Alexandrov

1. If Huet wants $3M per year, Gainey will not make the mistake of signing him long term like he did with Theodore. 1 year, or two MAX.

2. If Aebischer will cost nearly $1 Million less than Huet, I wouldn't mind keeping Aebi and trading Cristo, though I doubt that he'd welcome a sign and trade as a UFA and all. So too much for Huet on a comparative scale. $2 Million is fair for Aebi I think. Especially if we're trading him.

3. This trade is not even close to fair. Aebischer and something for St. Louis maybe. But Souray won't get you that missing something and a 1st round pick. And I don't even want St. Louis anyway. Not a good fit here with his huge long-term contract and small stature.

4. I'll pretend you didn't just pick up the contracts of both ALEXI YASHIN AND MARTIN ST. LOUIS, and move on, saving embarassment.

5. Mike Ribeiro is not worth a first round pick. We'd be lucky to get a mid-2nd rounder.

6. Your picks are fair, but we won't end up with 4 first rounders, no way no how.

sXe 05-28-2006 03:07 PM

Appropriately, your plan is to genius what Pierre Dagenais is to hockey.

ToNedOuT 05-28-2006 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sXe
Appropriately, your plan is to genius what Pierre Dagenais is to hockey.


:biglaugh:

Louis Houde 05-28-2006 05:16 PM

:(

Whitesnake 05-28-2006 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierredagenais
My genius plan


Okay, this is a crazy plan from myself.

1.Sign Huet 9 million 3 years
2.Sign aebischer because he cant refuse the 2.2 million offer.
3.Trade Aebischer & Souray for St-Louis & 1st 2006 pick( 15th).
4.Trade Bonk & Zednik for Yashin & 1st 2006 pick(7th) & 2nd 2006 pick(57th).
5.Trade Mike Ribeiro for washinton's 25th 2006 pick
6.7th :Derick Brassard ; 15th :Ivan Vishnevsky ; 16th : Ty wishart ; 25h: Yuri Alexandrov

...and then you suggest it to the other GM'S and understand that you just had a dream.... ;)

goalchenyuk 05-28-2006 05:58 PM

and that genius plan ?

i am still waiting for it ... :dunno:

Reiher 05-28-2006 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Habs13
Thats a small team...

so is buffalo....they're pretty small

Teufelsdreck 05-28-2006 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sakuuuuu
1. If Huet wants $3M per year, Gainey will not make the mistake of signing him long term like he did with Theodore. 1 year, or two MAX.

2. If Aebischer will cost nearly $1 Million less than Huet, I wouldn't mind keeping Aebi and trading Cristo, though I doubt that he'd welcome a sign and trade as a UFA and all. So too much for Huet on a comparative scale. $2 Million is fair for Aebi I think. Especially if we're trading him.

3. This trade is not even close to fair. Aebischer and something for St. Louis maybe. But Souray won't get you that missing something and a 1st round pick. And I don't even want St. Louis anyway. Not a good fit here with his huge long-term contract and small stature.

4. I'll pretend you didn't just pick up the contracts of both ALEXI YASHIN AND MARTIN ST. LOUIS, and move on, saving embarassment.

5. Mike Ribeiro is not worth a first round pick. We'd be lucky to get a mid-2nd rounder.

6. Your picks are fair, but we won't end up with 4 first rounders, no way no how.

I couldn't have said it any better than you just did.

ChemiseBleuHonnete 05-28-2006 09:16 PM

makes me wanna puke...

HH 05-28-2006 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by franchise player
makes me wanna puke...

:biglaugh:

Un HabitHuet* 05-29-2006 12:25 AM

I stopped reading after you mentioned Yashin. I actually almost stopped after St-Louis but it still made a little bit of sense.

So, no. Sorry.

slick_adonis 05-29-2006 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierredagenais
:(

Don't take it too personally...a couple of posters just don't know how to respond tactfully and without looking like arrogant *****.

That being said, in my opinion, Sakuuuuu perfectly voiced the reasoning for why the proposal wouldn't hold water.

Tuggy 05-29-2006 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sXe
Appropriately, your plan is to genius what Pierre Dagenais is to hockey.

:biglaugh: That is gold. :clap:

Fozz 05-29-2006 07:54 AM

Genius plan?

Yeah right. For a fantasy league owner maybe...

BJCOLLINS 05-29-2006 08:16 AM

I agree with everything you said up to sign Huet.

Joe Cole 05-29-2006 09:10 AM

Yashin. You want Yashin?

With that contract and that history?

Besides the over the top nature of your plan, I could not get past the Yashin trade.

Tuggy 05-29-2006 09:14 AM

Yashin would get eaten alive by the fans and media in Montreal.

Dan K 05-29-2006 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuggy
Yashin would get eaten alive by the fans and media in Montreal.

CBA SECTION 10.2.A.

If a player is eaten by fans, members of the media, members of management, members of the coaching staff, and/or other players, his contract is immediately null and void, and his cap hit is eliminated.


Wow, good thing you reminded me about that clause. Then I say let's do the trade!

Tuggy 05-29-2006 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sakuuuuu
CBA SECTION 10.2.A.

If a player is eaten by fans, members of the media, members of management, members of the coaching staff, and/or other players, his contract is immediately null and void, and his cap hit is eliminated.


Wow, good thing you reminded me about that clause. Then I say let's do the trade!

:p: :D

hab 05-29-2006 09:38 AM

I am pretty sure that is exactly what is going to happen, your dead on... :)

Habruti! 05-29-2006 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierredagenais
My genius plan


Okay, this is a crazy plan from myself.

1.Sign Huet 9 million 3 years
2.Sign aebischer because he cant refuse the 2.2 million offer.
3.Trade Aebischer & Souray for St-Louis & 1st 2006 pick( 15th).
4.Trade Bonk & Zednik for Yashin & 1st 2006 pick(7th) & 2nd 2006 pick(57th).
5.Trade Mike Ribeiro for washinton's 25th 2006 pick
6.7th :Derick Brassard ; 15th :Ivan Vishnevsky ; 16th : Ty wishart ; 25h: Yuri Alexandrov



The draft will be like this... so we'll be able to draft Derick Brassard
and also 3 great d-man!

1. Erik Johnson
2. Phil Kessel
3. Nicklas Backstrom
4. Jonathan Toews
5. Jordan Staal
6. James Sheppard
7. Derrick Brassard *HABS
8. Peter Mueller
9. Jiri Tlusty
10.Bryan Little
11.Kyle Okposo
12.Chris Stewart
13.Bobby Sanguinetti
14.Michal Frolik
15.Ivan Vishnevsky *HABS
16.Ty Wishart *HABS
17.Jonathan Bernier
18. Patrik Berglund
19. Michal Grabner
20. Michael Forney
21. Riku Helenius
22. Claude Giroux
23. Ben Maxwell
24. Jesse Joenssu
25. Yuri Alexandrov *HABS

7.
So we add :
1)Elite skillz
2)Offensive d-man
3)Shutdown d-man
4)Wise d-man

1)Brassard :
Scouts Take: "One of the oldest players available in the draft by missing the 2005 draft by less than ten days. Played in Drummondville of the QMJHL were he sparkled on a line with Montreal draft pick Guillaume Latendresse, as the two have that rare chemistry together. Montreal would be wise to take Derick in the first round if possible. Dominated in the Q this season and was just as good in the playoffs trying to cary Drummondville despite being slowed down by a broken wrist. Brassard has as much offensive upside as anyone outside of the top 5 players available in the draft and plays with a consistant passion every night. He has that confidence and desire to be an offensive threat every night. He's a fine skater, he doesn't have that elite gear but he's a deadly skater once inside the blue line. His agility is remarkable and he can really dance around on the ice, at times looks like a waterbug because he can just zip around in the blue line and is hard to contain. Dynamic one on one, has incredible skill level and can embaress defenseman with his sick moves, is creative with the puck on his stick and performs high light real moves game in game out. Fantastic play maker who thrived all year long feeding Guillaume the puck for easy goals, can make an amazing play stick handling the puck then without even looking can make a sweet dish and set up his line mates for easy goals, will be a huge asset on the power play. Is a threat not only to pass the puck but he's a natural goal scorer as well. He has a pro shot, releases the puck with little movement and his shot gets to the net quickly and he has some pin point accuracy. Likes to make a move to put the defenseman in front of the goalie creating a screen then gets his shot off catching the goaltender off gaurd. He consistently produces and every time I saw him play this season he was the most noticeable player on the ice. ISS compared him to Maxim Afinogenov, I like that comparison. So what are the knocks on this potential offensive stud? He's generously listed at 180 pounds and lacks strength in both the lower and upper body, he also doesn't have that balance that could cover up such a flaw. He tends to disappear in physical games, and although his offensive out put is consistent, his game away from the puck is not, although he has shown a better work ethic without the puck in his draft year. Brassard is slight and can be pushed around. Could protect the puck better. His defensive game leaves much to be desired at times, although I did see a new found effort in the playoffs even though he looked lost in his own zone at times, the effort was there. Also for every time he lifts you out of your seat with a play he'll also frusrate you by trying to get to cute with the puck. I feel he'll battle through those faults and will become a highly productive offensive player. I heard the same stuff about Ales Hemsky and PM Bouchard and they came out just fine. It will be interesting to see how much more his game can progress and how his game will translate to the NHL.
He reminds me a bit of Jeff Friesen at times and hopefully he can be more productive than Jeff down the road." *

2)Ivan Vishnevsky

Scouts Take: " Made the trip accross the ocean to play in the QMJHL this season, hails from Russia, and is the only Russian worth of being taken in the 1st round this year. Vishnevski is almost the complete opposite of the other Russian defenseman who has established himself with the Anaheim Ducks, Vitaly Vishnevski. Ivan is an offensive wizard on the back end and which ever team takes him will have him in mind for their power play down the road. Has impressive vision of the ice, keeps his head up even at full speed and makes quick decisions with the puck. Is able to hit a home run pass once in awhile sending a team mate in for the breakaway. Moves the puck crisply and with authority. Silky smoother skater with great wheels. Explodes out of the gate, is very agile with quick bursts, has an impressive top end gear, can weave around players when rushing the puck up on his own. Has good hand skills, stick handles like a highly skilled forward, has some dangerous moves and he is confident in using them. Has a quick release that he isn't afraid to use, loves to shoot the puck and does it well while in full speed. His shot gets high grades for it's accuracy but it lacks velocity. Uses his mobility to compensate for some of his defensive deficiencies. Flies all over his own zone and is way to aggressive on the defensive side, as he can tends to just skate and skate with little results time to time. Doesn't finish his checks often enough as he tries to poke the puck loose using his stick and than going offensive. Competes hard but needs to be coached on how to play defense properly as the effort is there but the know how isn't. Lack of size is an issue as well, at times will try to play the body but is ineffective and can get bulled over by strong opponents. For his offensive exploits I didn't see him get caught up the ice to often, once vs. the Quebec Remparts he busted his but back and caught up with one of the Q's best players in Alexander Radulov. His offensive talents are through the roof for a defenseman and he plays with urgency at both ends, how ever his defensive game is very raw. If you're picking in the bottom half of the first round and want a defenseman capable of producing offense Vishnevski would be a good pick." *

3) Ty Wishart 6-5 210 WHL Prince George 70-5-32-37

Scouts Take: " Every team needs a shut down defensive defenseman, and no one in this draft handles his own end better than Ty Wishart. Never sacrifices his defensive assignments, plays a protective stay at home style. Wishart is very savvy and has great awareness of the defensive zone. Makes strong plays in his own end by maintaining good position at all times. Is difficult to beat one on one, has an enormous wingspan, keeps a tight gap on his man, and always plays his mans chest, not the puck. Has a physical edge at times even though he could stand to be more physically aggressive, but as he matures and grows confidence he'll learn to use it more. Wishart reads the play well and takes away passing lanes with his long reach. Doesn't possess elite mobility, but for a defensive regard his size he's quite mobile. Can stay with the speediest forwards off the rush as he shows impressive gap control and uses his size to be tough to get around. Sturdy and well balanced with agile feet, Wishart can skate fluidly in any direction. He has a solid stride to grow into but he doesn't have that natural power and length on his stride that say a Braydon Coburn possesses. Makes the first pass out of the zone without turning the puck over, sees the ice well and doesn't rush into an errant pass, showing poise with the puck. Digests the play quickly and moves it precisely but isn't a game breaking puck moving defenseman, just keeps it simple. Doesn't have much for moves but handles the puck with a soft touch and looks comfortable handling it. Holds the zone well, shows good hand eye co-ordination. Has adequate power on his shot, releases it quickly which allows him to get it through to the net and likes to keep it a foot off the ice looking for tips and rebounds. Never sacrifices his defense for offense and doesn't get caught up the ice. Was very impressive this season playing for the Prince George Cougars and shined at the CHL top prospects game. However, he lacked engery and spirit and looked uncomfortable at the U-18's, still that is just a slight smudge though on an impressive season.”*

4)Yuri Alexandrov

Mature and poised defenseman. Impressive mobility and is swift on his feet, makes mature decisions with the puck and doesn’t panic, gritty in his own end. IIHF agreement hinders stock.Top russian prospect.*



7.2006's lineup



Higgins-Koivu-St-Louis
Perezhogin-Yashin-Kovalev
Kostitsyn-Plekanec-Ryder
Begin-Lapierre-Murray

Markov-Rivet
Cote-Komisarek
Bouillon-Dandenault

C.Huet


8. Discuss :D
*http://marcc.no-ip.org/xsharkie/

Looks like you forgot about cap space... St-louis (6M), Koivu (5M), Kovalev(4.5), Huet(3M), Yashin(7M), Abiesher(2.2M). Thats not even you top two lines and you are already sitting at 28M!!!


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