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LeHab 06-20-2006 08:29 AM

OT: Vigneault to coach Canucks
 
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A manager whose physique is more Bedrock's Fred Flintstone than Philadelphia's Fred Meyer has hired "Bam-Bam" to coach the Vancouver Canucks.

Alain Vigneault, whose rampage through the minor leagues two decades ago earned him the nickname Bam-Bam, is expected to be introduced this afternoon by Canucks general manager Dave Nonis as the National Hockey League team's 16th head coach.

Bam Bam will need to punch up a Canucks team that looked stale and dispirited as it collapsed in April and missed the Stanley Cup playoffs for the first time in five seasons, costing coach Marc Crawford his job and the franchise millions in lost revenue.
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...2-76d5fb7bf3ab

Good luck to another ex-hab coach!

Tuggy 06-20-2006 08:44 AM

I always thought he got a raw deal in Montreal and was not happy when he was let go. Should be interesting to see what happens in Vancouver.

A1 06-20-2006 08:47 AM

next season will be interesting; 2 ex-coaches and an ex-franchise goalie looking to strive in other cities.

optimus2861 06-20-2006 09:48 AM

Vigneault certainly never had much to work with during his tenure here, but he never impressed me much either. Defence, defence, defence. I don't think he'll be a good fit in Vancouver.

davenash 06-20-2006 10:28 AM

I was never impressed by Vigneault but I'm always happy to see Quebecers get work in the league.

SuperUnknown 06-20-2006 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tahqa
next season will be interesting; 2 ex-coaches and an ex-franchise goalie looking to strive in other cities.

The NHL teams are getting populated with old Montreal coaches: Lemaire, Therrien, Julien, Vigneault. Anyone else I'm missing?

beowulf 06-20-2006 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Smail
The NHL teams are getting populated with old Montreal coaches: Lemaire, Therrien, Julien, Vigneault. Anyone else I'm missing?

I was thinking the same thing when I heard the news on the Team 990.

22SteveBegin22 06-20-2006 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Smail
The NHL teams are getting populated with old Montreal coaches: Lemaire, Therrien, Julien, Vigneault. Anyone else I'm missing?

All the other teams will know our secrets! :eek:

All-Star 06-20-2006 10:52 AM

So he's now going to coach another team in need of a re-build... Hopefully they won't fire him too soon.

Marksman 06-20-2006 10:55 AM

Montreal has been the training ground for new coaches ... most experienced coaches who have the choise would not want to be here - poor player base and media atmosphere goes a long way (hopefully atleast one of these is changing).

Russeltown 06-20-2006 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Smail
The NHL teams are getting populated with old Montreal coaches: Lemaire, Therrien, Julien, Vigneault. Anyone else I'm missing?

There was Burns, Robinson, Bowman few years/months ago. :dunno:

A1 06-20-2006 03:05 PM

Robinson never coached the Canadiens.

19nazzy 06-20-2006 03:21 PM

Any information on Alain? From what I've read I haven't been too happy but I haven't read too much about him.

C-Saku Koivu MTL 06-20-2006 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by optimus2861
Vigneault certainly never had much to work with during his tenure here, but he never impressed me much either. Defence, defence, defence. I don't think he'll be a good fit in Vancouver.

Well, he didn't really had the choce with the team he had. And pretty much every team/coaches were like that then.

Hackett 06-20-2006 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by optimus2861
Vigneault certainly never had much to work with during his tenure here, but he never impressed me much either. Defence, defence, defence. I don't think he'll be a good fit in Vancouver.


Alain is not the same coach he was back in montreal.

Remember, AV was a very young man in coach's terms when he was hired. Alain hired Dave King who was assistant coach and the habs pretty much played king's style. I often wondered whose team it really was especially early on. It looked more like a head coahing tandem than anything else. Anyways, I digress.

AV is more of the kind of coach that adjusts his system according to the players that he is given. He was forced to play the stifling defensive system in montreal especially that year where we set the record for injuries and we STILL came one game away from making the playoffs.

In 1998, when AV had a half decent team, he took them them to the 2nd round of the playoffs where Hasek took over. The habs shut down Jagr by using a special line against him which included a 3rd D-man on the foarward line in Zarley Zalapski who was on Jagr at all times. I thought it was a very creative move which was one of the key reasons we won that series.

AV has been mauled by bad luck, bad managent above him, and very key injuiries in Montreal. Its about time he got a 2nd chance and he will be fine

JMMR 06-20-2006 06:08 PM

This guy was great coached 2 seasons when the habs were throttled with injuries!
I hope he has a verry successful trenure with the NUCKS!

znk 06-20-2006 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 22SteveBegin22
All the other teams will know our secrets! :eek:

It's ok. Our secret is now in colorado.

BigTimer* 06-20-2006 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 19nazzy
Any information on Alain? From what I've read I haven't been too happy but I haven't read too much about him.

Consider yourselves way luckier than the New Jersey fans. At least your coach has a pair.

SuperUnknown 06-20-2006 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Hackett
Alain is not the same coach he was back in montreal.

Remember, AV was a very young man in coach's terms when he was hired. Alain hired Dave King who was assistant coach and the habs pretty much played king's style. I often wondered whose team it really was especially early on. It looked more like a head coahing tandem than anything else. Anyways, I digress.

AV is more of the kind of coach that adjusts his system according to the players that he is given. He was forced to play the stifling defensive system in montreal especially that year where we set the record for injuries and we STILL came one game away from making the playoffs.

In 1998, when AV had a half decent team, he took them them to the 2nd round of the playoffs where Hasek took over. The habs shut down Jagr by using a special line against him which included a 3rd D-man on the foarward line in Zarley Zalapski who was on Jagr at all times. I thought it was a very creative move which was one of the key reasons we won that series.

AV has been mauled by bad luck, bad managent above him, and very key injuiries in Montreal. Its about time he got a 2nd chance and he will be fine

What they used in 1998 against Jagr was the Left-wing lock. It was invented by Dave King.

I wasn't impressed by what he did in PEI with the Rocket.

Hackett 06-20-2006 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Smail
What they used in 1998 against Jagr was the Left-wing lock. It was invented by Dave King.

I wasn't impressed by what he did in PEI with the Rocket.

what about what he did this year with an injury depleted and call up depleted team like the manitoba moose?

deandebean 06-20-2006 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Smail
What they used in 1998 against Jagr was the Left-wing lock. It was invented by Dave King.

I wasn't impressed by what he did in PEI with the Rocket.


He did not have a team that performed well, but he did kick some butts. He had some troublesome players, including a couple of loafers that were drafted.

The PEI managers loved him. He even acknowledged the Savard clan at the press conference today.

What he did with the Moose was as solid as what Claude Julien did the 2nd season in Hamilton (1st full one).

Team_Spirit 06-20-2006 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hackett
what about what he did this year with an injury depleted and call up depleted team like the manitoba moose?

He had Balej on his team , it was all about JB ;)

Seriously i think Vignault deserved another shot and his stint in the AHL was good for him now he know the team prospects so he wont be scared to use them. Personally i would have kept Crawford and trade some players.

SuperUnknown 06-21-2006 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Hackett
what about what he did this year with an injury depleted and call up depleted team like the manitoba moose?

I don't know, I didn't see Manitoba play this year. So I can't really comment. However, I wasn't a big fan of what Vigneault did with PEI in the games I saw them play (with Habs prospects of course!).

Shane 06-21-2006 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jozeph_Balej
He had Balej on his team , it was all about JB ;)

Seriously i think Vignault deserved another shot and his stint in the AHL was good for him now he know the team prospects so he wont be scared to use them. Personally i would have kept Crawford and trade some players.

Well, Balej was out for half the season and playoffs with a ruptured kidney.

ControlFreak 06-21-2006 04:54 AM

One thing that could be interesting with this move is the fact that coaches often (not always) go out a get players they formerly coached. Not saying this is what is what is going to happen, however it can only help fuel future rumors out of Vancouver involving a trade with Montreal. I could see a small trade involving a player like Zednik for example or even Souray. What comes back is a wildcard.


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