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Rex8 11-07-2003 04:00 AM

Joni in a long season - Merged the 2 Joni threads.
 
Is anyone worried about him wearing down this year?
Should he be sat occasionally, especially with 7 dmen?
I still have painful memories of KJ looking poor after wearing down in his first full year with us.
For that matter, should some of the vets get a night off every now and then?

Teezax 11-07-2003 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rex8
Is anyone worried about him wearing down this year?
Should he be sat occasionally, especially with 7 dmen?
I still have painful memories of KJ looking poor after wearing down in his first full year with us.
For that matter, should some of the vets get a night off every now and then?

You can't really say now, it might catch up with him but I won't put too much stock in that. He's a young kid and probably has more energy than most on the team, it's just a matter of getting banged up night in and out that can eventually F him up. I just don't even want to think about it, as far as I'm oncerned he should be there for the majority of the season, and I'm quite excited to see what he brings to the table come playoff time. The vets on the other hand might need some time off and will use the "Flu" excuse to get it.

Banger 11-07-2003 05:33 AM

Let's talk Pitkanen
 
What else can you say about this kid. He does so many things so well it’s amazing. Great skater, great at jumping in the play, great outlet passer, great on the point on the powerplay, gets his shots on net and almost always results in a rebound, amazingly calm with the puck, uses his reach and is great pokechecker, I even saw him play the body a few times last night. I have not seen a hole yet in this kids game. Originally I thought his aggressiveness rushing the puck and moving up in the play would result in odd man rushes but he reads the play so well and takes what the defense gives him and rarely gets caught out of position.

At the 12 game point, he’s already playing over 18 minutes a game, is on their #1 power play unit, +7 with 7 points. At the 12 game point he is already the flyers best defensemen. It’s really scary to think how good he will be in 3-5 years when he grows into his frame. In years to come people will look at the trade that Clarke pulled off and wonder what the hell TB was thinking in giving a franchise player like him up for near nothing (they are actually doing that already). Am I crazy or do others feel the same??

GKJ 11-07-2003 06:09 AM

We need Pitkanen for the playoffs more than we need him for now. If sitting him every now and then will keep him fresh then it needs to be done. If the games where he doesn't play affects the offense and power play then we need to have someone taking his place that can fill his role (not Therien or Vandermeer)

Teezax 11-07-2003 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banger
What else can you say about this kid. He does so many things so well it’s amazing. Great skater, great at jumping in the play, great outlet passer, great on the point on the powerplay, gets his shots on net and almost always results in a rebound, amazingly calm with the puck, uses his reach and is great pokechecker, I even saw him play the body a few times last night. I have not seen a hole yet in this kids game. Originally I thought his aggressiveness rushing the puck and moving up in the play would result in odd man rushes but he reads the play so well and takes what the defense gives him and rarely gets caught out of position.

At the 12 game point, he’s already playing over 18 minutes a game, is on their #1 power play unit, +7 with 7 points. At the 12 game point he is already the flyers best defensemen. It’s really scary to think how good he will be in 3-5 years when he grows into his frame. In years to come people will look at the trade that Clarke pulled off and wonder what the hell TB was thinking in giving a franchise player like him up for near nothing (they are actually doing that already). Am I crazy or do others feel the same??

the kid is the real deal as far as i'm concerned, there's no doubt in my mind that he has Lidstrom potential written all over him. He gets praised by everyone in the hockey world and there's a reason why he was projected as the top european in the draft. Tampa must be kicking htemselves in the butt especially after Tortorella placed Fedotenko as a healthy scratch the other day. This trade goes out to all the Clarke bashers on these boards, funny, the only thing they remember is the Oates deal, but no one evr considers these ones:

Pitkanen for Fedotenko and 2 2nd's
Kapanen for St Jacques and Brendl
Amonte for peanuts
Esche and Handzus for Boucher
Brashear for Hlavac (remember the bashing we got for that one)
Lindros for Johnsson Kapanen and Brash (if you consider the prior trades)
Lapointe for peanuts

If you look at these trades in the last couple of years, you wonder how anyone thinks Clarke is not a good GM. All the players we gave up have been scratched at one point or another. I think we finally have a great core of players and are sound enough not to make any trades in the near future.

Cuiff 11-07-2003 06:31 AM

I agree. Pitkanen really plays a mature game out there.

John Flyers Fan 11-07-2003 06:39 AM

A few things on Pitkanen:

#1. He has been everything advertsied and more.

#2. If he stays healthy he has a good chance to become the best defenseman in Flyers history.

#3. He is NOT our best defenseman at this time., and nor should we expect him to be. Allow him to make some rokie mistakes, and don't rush him and put him in spots that could effect his confidence.

#4. He has certainly helped our PP, but he is far from the only reason why the PP is better.


Our puck movement is much quicker.

We're getting in front of the net and getting those garbage goals.

Our entire PP is essentially built around 2 plays. Working everything around the right side boads, point man, and player to the right side of the net.

By doing the same things over and over and over again, we are moving the puck quicker, no standing around, and throwing more pucks on the net.

donelikedinner 11-07-2003 06:45 AM

i agree that pitkanen has been outstanding, it is a treat to watch such a good skater on the blueline. during last night's game, the Caps announcers compared him to Leetch (but, just a bit bigger).

the future is going to be great. i hope that in a few years our top line will be pitkanen + woywitka. the smooth skating and puck handling of pitkanen and woywitka's hits and solid 'at home' style should atleast be very entertaining to watch.

the flyers future is bright, and it all starts from the blueline!

Flyers26 11-07-2003 06:46 AM

He's only playing about 18min a game.
With the proper use, he'll be fine. I'm sure Hitch is smart enough not to let him wear down.

panayiotis 11-07-2003 11:26 AM

dont be a mother
 
Just enjoy the kid rock out. Hartsburgh will guide the kid. If he fades later on so be it. He is a rookie not a seasoned vet. There is a ton of growing in front of him.

Blatny Spears 11-08-2003 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teezax
Pitkanen for Fedotenko and 2 2nd's
Kapanen for St Jacques and Brendl
Amonte for peanuts
Esche and Handzus for Boucher
Brashear for Hlavac (remember the bashing we got for that one)
Lindros for Johnsson Kapanen and Brash (if you consider the prior trades)
Lapointe for peanuts

You forgot the brutal Lessard for a 3rd and a 7th. Awful deal for Atlanta - Lessard sucks. We did get you for two 6ths for Kirby Law, though. One of those picks was used on Pasi Nurminen and the other on Darcy Hordichuk.


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