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stardog 11-07-2003 07:56 PM

1999 Draft??
 
I loved the thoughts on the 2002 draft Re-Do...I wonder what your thoughts would be on the 1999 draft as a re-do....Noone from that draft has really established themselves as the clear cut front runner from that year (Jackman, Havlat maybe?).

Hitman* 11-07-2003 07:58 PM

Havlat would probably be #1 right now, Jackman #2 based on performance.

Team_Spirit 11-08-2003 06:16 AM

And Mike Comrie 3rd ...

Team_Spirit 11-08-2003 06:32 AM

1 : M.Havlat
2 : B.Jackman
3 : M.Comrie
4 : H.Zetterberg
5 : Sedin
6 : Sedin
7 : R.Miller
8 : N.Boynton
9 : A.Hall
10 : A.Semenov
11 : T.Pyatt
12 : J.Rita
13 : M.Prusek
14 : T.Connolly
15 : J.Jillson ( look good this year ... )
16 : N.Hagman
17 : F.Kaberle
18 : P.Stefan
19 : M.Ouelett
20 : R.Vrbata
21 : B.Radivojevic
22 : O.Saprykin
23 : R.Hahl
24 : J.Leopold
25 : M.Weinhandl
26 : N.Havelid
27 : A.Khavanov
28 : J.Lundmark
----
29 : M.Sivek
30 : D.Shvidki

28 Teams at the time

Big McLargehuge 11-08-2003 09:35 AM

No Koltsov?

even harsher.

stardog 11-08-2003 09:47 AM

Ahhh Ryan Miller was another one I forgot. Definatley a top five that year IMO.
Pretty good list (although Koltsov gets no love)>
Isnt it funny how far back Stefan has fallen thus far?

tom_servo 11-08-2003 10:02 AM

I like Koltsov, but it'd be hard to place him above anyone on that list.

stardog 11-08-2003 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom_servo
I like Koltsov, but it'd be hard to place him above anyone on that list.

20-30 is a crapshoot in that regards but Id take him over Hahl and Havelid. Weinhandle also.

1)Miller
2)Havlat
3)Zetterberg
4)Jackman
5)Comrie
6)D.Sedin
7)Boynton
8)Rita
9)H.Sedin
10)Kaberle
11)Pyatt
12)Semenov
13)Leopold
14)Lundmark
15)Prusek
16)Connoly
17)Jillson
18)Koltsov
19)Hall
20)Stefan-still has HUGE upside
21)Khavanov
22)Oulette
23)Saprykin
24)Hagman
25) Finley
26)Mezei
27)Tanabe
28)Ahonen
29)Sivek
30)Radivojevic

HughJass* 11-08-2003 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stardog
20-30 is a crapshoot in that regards but Id take him over Hahl and Havelid. Weinhandle also.

1)Miller
2)Havlat
3)Zetterberg
4)Jackman
5)Comrie
6)D.Sedin
7)Boynton
8)Rita
9)H.Sedin
10)Kaberle
11)Pyatt
12)Semenov
13)Leopold
14)Lundmark
15)Prusek
16)Connoly
17)Jillson
18)Koltsov
19)Hall
20)Stefan-still has HUGE upside
21)Khavanov
22)Oulette
23)Saprykin
24)Hagman
25) Finley
26)Mezei
27)Tanabe
28)Ahonen
29)Sivek
30)Radivojevic

If I was a Yotes fan, I'd be pissed Tanabe & Radivojevic isn't ranked higher. Both of them should be ranked right outside of the top 11 in this order. Your ranking of the final 10 are a bit misguided.

Fedz 11-08-2003 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stardog
20-30 is a crapshoot in that regards but Id take him over Hahl and Havelid. Weinhandle also.

1)Miller
2)Havlat
3)Zetterberg
4)Jackman
5)Comrie
6)D.Sedin
7)Boynton
8)Rita
9)H.Sedin
10)Kaberle
11)Pyatt
12)Semenov
13)Leopold
14)Lundmark
15)Prusek
16)Connoly
17)Jillson
18)Koltsov
19)Hall
20)Stefan-still has HUGE upside
21)Khavanov
22)Oulette
23)Saprykin
24)Hagman
25) Finley
26)Mezei
27)Tanabe
28)Ahonen
29)Sivek
30)Radivojevic

How can you rank Rita ahead of Sedin, Connolly, Kaberle, Pyatt, & Stefan

Rita has done jack squat, where the other players have had a regular shift with an NHL team for a at least 2 years.

cagney 11-08-2003 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fedz
How can you rank Rita ahead of Sedin, Connolly, Kaberle, Pyatt, & Stefan

Rita has done jack squat, where the other players have had a regular shift with an NHL team for a at least 2 years.

I was going to say the same thing. At this point he may not even make the NHL. He's really overrated.

stardog 11-08-2003 04:25 PM

these guys are still young enough to be considered a work in progress. The list isnt perfect by any means. Nor will we be able to tell for years. So in answer to your question, potential is why I rated him higher.Who knows where he will end up. Just a gut feeling.
If y'all get time post your list. Id be interested to see it.

Jeffrey 11-08-2003 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stardog
20-30 is a crapshoot in that regards but Id take him over Hahl and Havelid. Weinhandle also.

1)Miller
2)Havlat
3)Zetterberg
4)Jackman
5)Comrie
6)D.Sedin
7)Boynton
8)Rita
9)H.Sedin
10)Kaberle
11)Pyatt
12)Semenov
13)Leopold
14)Lundmark
15)Prusek
16)Connoly
17)Jillson
18)Koltsov
19)Hall
20)Stefan-still has HUGE upside
21)Khavanov
22)Oulette
23)Saprykin
24)Hagman
25) Finley
26)Mezei
27)Tanabe
28)Ahonen
29)Sivek
30)Radivojevic

wtf miller 1st ....
he hasn't proven anything yet in the NHL ...

stardog 11-08-2003 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kryoptix
wtf miller 1st ....
he hasn't proven anything yet in the NHL ...

Neither has Lehtonen yet he is consistently ranked among the top prospects. And we all know the only reason he isnt in the NHL...I think as of right now he has the biggest upside of anyone in this draft.

ginner classic 11-10-2003 07:45 AM

Anyone who does not have Havlat number 1 at this point has no credibility IMO. It is Havlat, Jackman, Boynton, Comrie the Sedins and Zetterberg IMO. Rita should in no way be considered in the top 5, and arguably not in the top 10 either. I am sick of talking about upside. Let's talk reality and what players are most likely to achieve. Upside is irrelevant.

Team_Spirit 11-10-2003 07:51 AM

look like my list was the best .. i've forgot Koltsov so put him were you think he deserve to be .

To the guy who said that Ahonen get no respect :
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...id%5B%5D=45127

His save % and GAA are bad .. guys like Miller , Prusek , Ouellet and Caron are better than him and by far .

Reign Nateo 11-10-2003 08:12 AM

This is how I would pick the top 20:

1. R Martin Havlat
2. D Barret Jackman
3. C Mike Comrie
4. C Henrik Sedin
5. D Nick Boynton
6. C Henrik Zetterberg
7. G Ryan Miller
8. L Daniel Sedin
9. G Maxime Ouellet
10. C Patrik Stefan
11. D Alex Semenov
12. L Niklas Hagman
13. D Jeff Jillson
14. R Adam Hall
15. C Tim Connolly
16. R Radim Vrbata
17. R Branko Radiojevic
18. G Martin Prusek
19. L Taylor Pyatt
20. D Frantisek Kaberle

BlackJack21 11-10-2003 09:10 AM

1. R Martin Havlat
2. D Barret Jackman
3. D Nick Boynton
4. C Henrik Sedin
5. L Daniel Sedin
6. C Henrik Zetterberg
7. D Jordan Leopold
8. G Ryan Miller
9. C Mike Comrie
10. D David Tanabe

that's my top 10...

7-8-10 are not proven NHLer but I consider them as big time lock...

BJ21

stardog 11-10-2003 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ginner
Anyone who does not have Havlat number 1 at this point has no credibility IMO. It is Havlat, Jackman, Boynton, Comrie the Sedins and Zetterberg IMO. Rita should in no way be considered in the top 5, and arguably not in the top 10 either. I am sick of talking about upside. Let's talk reality and what players are most likely to achieve. Upside is irrelevant.

"and what players are most likely to achieve. Upside is irrelevant"

Isnt what they are likely to achieve called upside???

Kirk- NEHJ 11-10-2003 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stardog
"and what players are most likely to achieve. Upside is irrelevant"

Isnt what they are likely to achieve called upside???

Based on what we've seen in five years since the draft was held in Boston, I think that the Class of '99 will go down in history as one of the weaker crops compared to the hype that preceded it.

There is still some time left, but a lot of these guys just haven't panned out, and it's looking more and more like they never will.

The class of 2000 on the other hand...what an outstanding group of players! Look at all the guys from the first round alone who are not only impact players on their teams, but in many cases, are carrying the mail.


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