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The n00b King ©* 07-27-2006 12:09 AM

The: "Im Réjean Houle, habs GM master" game!
 
I feel it's now time to seriously make some fun of all those damn annoying trade proposals.

I say instead, what trades would you make if you were.....


RÉJEAN HOULE!


That's right ladies and gents! You are in the seat of Mister Houle, the genius, the master, the conqueror as the Canadiens' GM!

You have access to all current habs players. The only one you cannot trade is Saku Koivu as he has secretly conned you into giving him a no-trade clause!

Makeyour deadly trades for the leagues sharpest skaters!

Find your Lind for our Plekanec
Our Darby for Downey
Our Thibault for Huet....

Good luck to you all in your adventure!

Each trade MUST be somewhat realistic. Build your team to win the "stanley cup" à la Houle!



This game is for entertainment purposes and not meant to be for real. Any resemblance to any living or dead persons in this thread is purely coincidental. No animals were harmed in the making of this thread. Have a subway sub, eat fresh! She's maybeline! Just do it. Nike.

GoneAway 07-27-2006 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaolin_goon (Post 6137860)
I feel it's now time to seriously make some fun of all those damn annoying trade proposals.

I say instead, what trades would you make if you were.....


RÉJEAN HOULE!


That's right ladies and gents! You are in the seat of Mister Houle, the genius, the master, the conqueror as the Canadiens' GM!

You have access to all current habs players. The only one you cannot trade is Saku Koivu as he has secretly conned you into giving him a no-trade clause!

Makeyour deadly trades for the leagues sharpest skaters!

Find your Lind for our Plekanec
Our Darby for Downey
Our Thibault for Huet....

Good luck to you all in your adventure!

Each trade MUST be somewhat realistic. Build your team to win the "stanley cup" à la Houle!

Careful...you're "turning your back on us":sarcasm:

Team_Spirit 07-27-2006 12:22 AM

Berezin for Samsonov
Traverse for Dandenault
Zubrus for Kovalev

The n00b King ©* 07-27-2006 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jozeph_Balej (Post 6137924)
Berezin for Samsonov
Traverse for Dandenault
Zubrus for Kovalev

that's all you got?

you've got to build a complete team with your trades darling.

you can trade pics as well.

as long as you build 23 manned ship

Team_Spirit 07-27-2006 12:26 AM

meh the whole 99-00 team.

Or you want it with actual players?

*Has realase Ribeiro and ink Arnason*

The n00b King ©* 07-27-2006 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jozeph_Balej (Post 6137949)
meh the whole 99-00 team.

Or you want it with actual players?

*Has realase Ribeiro and ink Arnason*

yes. with currently available players.

make REALISTIC trades. well, try anyways.

the point of the thread is to see how far we've come and have some fun with it.

Team_Spirit 07-27-2006 12:41 AM

So keeping Saku and our lineup is :

Higgins-Koivu-Ryder
Samsonov-Ribeirov-Kovalev
Perezhogin-Plekanec-Johnson
Bégin-Bonk-Murray

Markov-Komisarek
Souray-Rivet
Dandy-Bouillon

Aebi-Huet

--

Kilger-Koivu-Mogilny
Balastik-Zhamnov-Lapointe
Vorobiev-Arnason-Dvorak
Avery-Cajanek-Drake

Poti-Kubina
Corvo-Eaton
Harrison-Wesley

Gerber-Lalime

:banghead: All this with a big *** cap .. Prospects stay the same , but we picked 5-6 pick earlier every time..

Cyrrus147 07-27-2006 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaolin_goon (Post 6137860)
I feel it's now time to seriously make some fun of all those damn annoying trade proposals.

I say instead, what trades would you make if you were.....


RÉJEAN HOULE!


That's right ladies and gents! You are in the seat of Mister Houle, the genius, the master, the conqueror as the Canadiens' GM!

You have access to all current habs players. The only one you cannot trade is Saku Koivu as he has secretly conned you into giving him a no-trade clause!

Makeyour deadly trades for the leagues sharpest skaters!

Find your Lind for our Plekanec
Our Darby for Downey
Our Thibault for Huet....

Good luck to you all in your adventure!

Each trade MUST be somewhat realistic. Build your team to win the "stanley cup" à la Houle!



This game is for entertainment purposes and not meant to be for real. Any resemblance to any living or dead persons in this thread is purely coincidental. No animals were harmed in the making of this thread. Have a subway sub, eat fresh! She's maybeline! Just do it. Nike.


I'm trading Alexei Kovalev to NYR for Jason Ward and I sign him a extension 5 years / 20 M$

I'm trading Saku Koivu, Michael Ryder and Chris Higgins to SJ Sharks for Patrick Traverse.

I'm signing Eric Chouinard to a one way contract, 3 year / 9M$

I'm trading Christobal Huet to Phoenix for Phillipe Sauvé, Georges Laraques and a 3rd round pick

Cyrrus147 07-27-2006 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaolin_goon (Post 6137860)
I feel it's now time to seriously make some fun of all those damn annoying trade proposals.

I say instead, what trades would you make if you were.....


RÉJEAN HOULE!


That's right ladies and gents! You are in the seat of Mister Houle, the genius, the master, the conqueror as the Canadiens' GM!

You have access to all current habs players. The only one you cannot trade is Saku Koivu as he has secretly conned you into giving him a no-trade clause!

Makeyour deadly trades for the leagues sharpest skaters!

Find your Lind for our Plekanec
Our Darby for Downey
Our Thibault for Huet....

Good luck to you all in your adventure!

Each trade MUST be somewhat realistic. Build your team to win the "stanley cup" à la Houle!



This game is for entertainment purposes and not meant to be for real. Any resemblance to any living or dead persons in this thread is purely coincidental. No animals were harmed in the making of this thread. Have a subway sub, eat fresh! She's maybeline! Just do it. Nike.

If I was Rejean Houle my line up would be...

Allison, Jason 41 C 6' 3" 222 lbs Toronto, Ontario 31 5/29/1975
Antropov, Nik 80 C 6' 6" 230 lbs Ust-Kamenogorsk, Kazakstan 26 2/18/1980
Aubin, Jean-Sebastien 30 GT 5' 11" 180 lbs Montreal, Quebec 29 6/19/1977
Belak, Wade 3 D 6' 5" 221 lbs Saskatoon, Saskatchewan 30 7/3/1976
Bell, Brendan 36 D 6' 1" 205 lbs Nepean, Ontario 23 3/31/1983
Colaiacovo, Carlo * 45 D 6' 1" 188 lbs Toronto, Ontario 23 1/27/1983
Gill, Hal 25 D 6'7" 250 lbs. Concord, Massachusetts 31 4/6/1975
Harrison, Jay 43 D 6' 4" 211 lbs Oshawa, Ontario 23 11/3/1982
Kaberle, Tomas 15 D 6' 1" 198 lbs Rakovnik, Czech Republic 28 3/2/1978
Khavanov, Alexander 25 D 6' 2" 205 lbs Moscow, Russia 34 1/30/1972
Kilger, Chad 18 LW 6' 4" 224 lbs Cornwall, Ontario 29 11/27/1976
Kronwall, Staffan 44 D 6' 3" 211 lbs Stockholm, Sweden 23 9/10/1982
Kubina, Pavel 31 D 6'4" 244 lbs. Celadna, Czech Republic 29 4/15/1977
McCabe, Bryan 24 D 6' 2" 220 lbs St. Catharines, Ontario 31 6/8/1975
O'Neill, Jeff 92 RW 6' 1" 195 lbs Richmond Hill, Ontario 30 2/23/1976
Ondrus, Ben 46 RW 6' 0" 185 lbs Sherwood Park, Alberta 24 6/25/1982
Peca, Michael 27 C 5'11" 190 Toronto, Ontario 32 3/26/1974
Pohl, John 53 C 6' 0" 186 lbs Rochester, Minnesota 27 6/29/1979
Ponikarovsky, Alexei 23 LW 6' 4" 220 lbs Kiev, Ukraine 26 4/9/1980
Raycroft, Andrew 1 GT 6'0" 185 lbs. Belleville, Ontario 26 5/4/1980
Stajan, Matt 14 C 6'1" 180 lbs Mississauga, Ontario 22 12/19/1983
Steen, Alexander * 10 C 6' 1" 205 lbs Winnipeg, Manitoba 22 3/1/1984
Sundin, Mats 13 C 6' 5" 231 lbs Bromma, Sweden 35 2/13/1971
Tellqvist, Mikael 32 GT 5' 11" 185 lbs Sundbyberg, Sweden 26 9/19/1979
Tucker, Darcy 16 LW 5' 10" 178 lbs Castor, Alberta 31 3/15/1975
Wellwood, Kyle * 42 C 5' 10" 180 lbs Windsor, Ontario 23 5/16/1983
White, Ian 37 D 5' 10" 185 lbs Steinbach, Manitoba 22 6/4/1984
Wilm, Clarke 39 C 6' 0" 202 lbs Central Butte, Saskatchewan 29 10/24/1976
Wozniewski, Andy 56 D 6' 5" 225 lbs Buffalo Grove, Illinois 26 5/25/1980

:sarcasm:

(oh and don't forget Sundin at nearly 7M$, Kubina at 5M$ and Hal Gill at 2,1M$)

The n00b King ©* 07-27-2006 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyrrus147 (Post 6138204)
If I was Rejean Houle my line up would be...

Allison, Jason 41 C 6' 3" 222 lbs Toronto, Ontario 31 5/29/1975
Antropov, Nik 80 C 6' 6" 230 lbs Ust-Kamenogorsk, Kazakstan 26 2/18/1980
Aubin, Jean-Sebastien 30 GT 5' 11" 180 lbs Montreal, Quebec 29 6/19/1977
Belak, Wade 3 D 6' 5" 221 lbs Saskatoon, Saskatchewan 30 7/3/1976
Bell, Brendan 36 D 6' 1" 205 lbs Nepean, Ontario 23 3/31/1983
Colaiacovo, Carlo * 45 D 6' 1" 188 lbs Toronto, Ontario 23 1/27/1983
Gill, Hal 25 D 6'7" 250 lbs. Concord, Massachusetts 31 4/6/1975
Harrison, Jay 43 D 6' 4" 211 lbs Oshawa, Ontario 23 11/3/1982
Kaberle, Tomas 15 D 6' 1" 198 lbs Rakovnik, Czech Republic 28 3/2/1978
Khavanov, Alexander 25 D 6' 2" 205 lbs Moscow, Russia 34 1/30/1972
Kilger, Chad 18 LW 6' 4" 224 lbs Cornwall, Ontario 29 11/27/1976
Kronwall, Staffan 44 D 6' 3" 211 lbs Stockholm, Sweden 23 9/10/1982
Kubina, Pavel 31 D 6'4" 244 lbs. Celadna, Czech Republic 29 4/15/1977
McCabe, Bryan 24 D 6' 2" 220 lbs St. Catharines, Ontario 31 6/8/1975
O'Neill, Jeff 92 RW 6' 1" 195 lbs Richmond Hill, Ontario 30 2/23/1976
Ondrus, Ben 46 RW 6' 0" 185 lbs Sherwood Park, Alberta 24 6/25/1982
Peca, Michael 27 C 5'11" 190 Toronto, Ontario 32 3/26/1974
Pohl, John 53 C 6' 0" 186 lbs Rochester, Minnesota 27 6/29/1979
Ponikarovsky, Alexei 23 LW 6' 4" 220 lbs Kiev, Ukraine 26 4/9/1980
Raycroft, Andrew 1 GT 6'0" 185 lbs. Belleville, Ontario 26 5/4/1980
Stajan, Matt 14 C 6'1" 180 lbs Mississauga, Ontario 22 12/19/1983
Steen, Alexander * 10 C 6' 1" 205 lbs Winnipeg, Manitoba 22 3/1/1984
Sundin, Mats 13 C 6' 5" 231 lbs Bromma, Sweden 35 2/13/1971
Tellqvist, Mikael 32 GT 5' 11" 185 lbs Sundbyberg, Sweden 26 9/19/1979
Tucker, Darcy 16 LW 5' 10" 178 lbs Castor, Alberta 31 3/15/1975
Wellwood, Kyle * 42 C 5' 10" 180 lbs Windsor, Ontario 23 5/16/1983
White, Ian 37 D 5' 10" 185 lbs Steinbach, Manitoba 22 6/4/1984
Wilm, Clarke 39 C 6' 0" 202 lbs Central Butte, Saskatchewan 29 10/24/1976
Wozniewski, Andy 56 D 6' 5" 225 lbs Buffalo Grove, Illinois 26 5/25/1980

:sarcasm:

(oh and don't forget Sundin at nearly 7M$, Kubina at 5M$ and Hal Gill at 2,1M$)


*gasp!*

Breaking NEWS!

Réjean Houle is living a secret identity in Toronto!

More details to follow....

Cyrrus147 07-27-2006 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaolin_goon (Post 6138452)
*gasp!*

Breaking NEWS!

Réjean Houle is living a secret identity in Toronto!

More details to follow....

Yea John Ferguson Jr is not really himself....he s just Rejean Houle in a outfit.

David_99 07-27-2006 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyrrus147 (Post 6138460)
Yea John Ferguson Jr is not really himself....he s just Rejean Houle in a outfit.

In that case.... LONG LIVE REGGY HOULE!

Good idea for this game, only problem is we are a young, growing team right now, where as back in 94-95, we were coming off a cup win with plenty of proven veterans and some all stars. Many of those players are still around today. Trading Huet for crap wouldn't have the same impact as Roy for... well, you know.

Oh well, if I must I must. Huet & Aerbisher traded for Jim Carey & 6th rounder, Kovalev & Ryder for Yashin and their 1st round draft pick. Don't get too excited, that 1st is then traded to the old timers league for Stephan Richer and Patrick Poulin. Markov traded for Gauthier. Perez, A. Kost, Chippy, Price and Emelin traded for Brassard. Roenick UFA signed for 6 million/2yr, Dandenault given a 5 year extention, 25Mil contract.

Higgins Brassard Latendress
Samsonov Yashin Youppi
Richer Raphael Poulin
Lapierre Murray Roenick

Dandenault Boullion
Rivet Poulin (double shifted)
Souray Komo

Danis
Carey

Schedule the parade for April.

Habber 07-27-2006 08:09 AM

I would make 29 trades. One to every team for their first round draft pick. With my god-like drafting abilities, there's no way we could lose.;)

RC51 07-27-2006 08:32 AM

Just one note to defend MR. Houle and his work as Hab GM.

It's important to go back in time to get the right picture.

At the time Houle was hired as GM, the Montreal Canadien team had been on a slow long downgrade in effort and talent. It was the general concensus at the time that the players had lost the pride of just being a HAB. The overall talent on the team was only average but it was felt that with more effort every night they could still be a good club.

In order to re-instill pride it took a x-hab with the passion of the "old habs". So Houle was appointed as GM. BUT things in the NHL had changed. Many players come from overseas or the States and had no CH tatooed on thier hearts. Much like today all over the NHL. The Players had discovered " big contracts" and suddenly had the money to live anywhere they wanted or to maintain thier homes in europe and retain thier own national pride and ties.
Playing for the Habs is no longer the be-all and end-all of the Hockey world.

The NHL had gone truly international and no matter what Houle did, he would run up against this new reality in the NHL. It's all about talent and contracts, and a bit less about heart and desire.
As soon as a player has a great year he demands a huge raise.
Every forward wants to play on the top line because he will get more points and get a bigger contract next time.

Is it good that the NHL has so many euro top talent players now? you bet, we get to see truly great players do thier thing in the NHL, but it HAS changed the NHL.

HabuseMoi 07-27-2006 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyrrus147 (Post 6138204)
If I was Rejean Houle my line up would be...

Allison, Jason 41 C 6' 3" 222 lbs Toronto, Ontario 31 5/29/1975
Antropov, Nik 80 C 6' 6" 230 lbs Ust-Kamenogorsk, Kazakstan 26 2/18/1980
Aubin, Jean-Sebastien 30 GT 5' 11" 180 lbs Montreal, Quebec 29 6/19/1977
Belak, Wade 3 D 6' 5" 221 lbs Saskatoon, Saskatchewan 30 7/3/1976
Bell, Brendan 36 D 6' 1" 205 lbs Nepean, Ontario 23 3/31/1983
Colaiacovo, Carlo * 45 D 6' 1" 188 lbs Toronto, Ontario 23 1/27/1983
Gill, Hal 25 D 6'7" 250 lbs. Concord, Massachusetts 31 4/6/1975
Harrison, Jay 43 D 6' 4" 211 lbs Oshawa, Ontario 23 11/3/1982
Kaberle, Tomas 15 D 6' 1" 198 lbs Rakovnik, Czech Republic 28 3/2/1978
Khavanov, Alexander 25 D 6' 2" 205 lbs Moscow, Russia 34 1/30/1972
Kilger, Chad 18 LW 6' 4" 224 lbs Cornwall, Ontario 29 11/27/1976
Kronwall, Staffan 44 D 6' 3" 211 lbs Stockholm, Sweden 23 9/10/1982
Kubina, Pavel 31 D 6'4" 244 lbs. Celadna, Czech Republic 29 4/15/1977
McCabe, Bryan 24 D 6' 2" 220 lbs St. Catharines, Ontario 31 6/8/1975
O'Neill, Jeff 92 RW 6' 1" 195 lbs Richmond Hill, Ontario 30 2/23/1976
Ondrus, Ben 46 RW 6' 0" 185 lbs Sherwood Park, Alberta 24 6/25/1982
Peca, Michael 27 C 5'11" 190 Toronto, Ontario 32 3/26/1974
Pohl, John 53 C 6' 0" 186 lbs Rochester, Minnesota 27 6/29/1979
Ponikarovsky, Alexei 23 LW 6' 4" 220 lbs Kiev, Ukraine 26 4/9/1980
Raycroft, Andrew 1 GT 6'0" 185 lbs. Belleville, Ontario 26 5/4/1980
Stajan, Matt 14 C 6'1" 180 lbs Mississauga, Ontario 22 12/19/1983
Steen, Alexander * 10 C 6' 1" 205 lbs Winnipeg, Manitoba 22 3/1/1984
Sundin, Mats 13 C 6' 5" 231 lbs Bromma, Sweden 35 2/13/1971
Tellqvist, Mikael 32 GT 5' 11" 185 lbs Sundbyberg, Sweden 26 9/19/1979
Tucker, Darcy 16 LW 5' 10" 178 lbs Castor, Alberta 31 3/15/1975
Wellwood, Kyle * 42 C 5' 10" 180 lbs Windsor, Ontario 23 5/16/1983
White, Ian 37 D 5' 10" 185 lbs Steinbach, Manitoba 22 6/4/1984
Wilm, Clarke 39 C 6' 0" 202 lbs Central Butte, Saskatchewan 29 10/24/1976
Wozniewski, Andy 56 D 6' 5" 225 lbs Buffalo Grove, Illinois 26 5/25/1980

:sarcasm:

(oh and don't forget Sundin at nearly 7M$, Kubina at 5M$ and Hal Gill at 2,1M$)

LOL what a crappy lineup, you're sure to finish at least 25th.

GreatWhiteLark 07-27-2006 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyrrus147 (Post 6138460)
Yea John Ferguson Jr is not really himself....he s just Rejean Houle in a outfit.

Hahahahaa!

I'm waiting for Ferguson to rip of his mask and say something like " And I would have gotten away with it, expect for these meddling kids!"

Scooobiedoobiedooo!

Roots73 07-27-2006 10:16 AM

I liked the board game version myself.

Rolls dice.
Great I get a 3!
Move my hockey puck three spaces.
Wow I landed on the Fire/Hire Coaches space!
Pick up card from the deck. It reads..
CONGRATULATIONS! You just fired your current coaching staff in mid-season! You cave into media pressure and hire Michel Bergeron as the new head coach.You then hire the old visiting team water boy from the 80's that looked like Relic as the assistant and Andre Racicot as the new goalie coach!

Advance to Fail to Make Playoff Space and collect $200

Dan K 07-27-2006 10:25 AM

Mwahaha.

The Montreal Canadiens trade Alex Kovalev, Michael Ryder, Andrei Markov, and Chris Higgins to Vancouver for Markus Naslund and Kevin Bieksa.

The Montreal Canadiens trade David Aebischer, Andrei Kostitsyn, and Guillaume Latendresse to the St. Louis Blues for Keith Tkachuk.

The Montreal Canadiens trade Markus Naslund, Keith Tkachuk, Carey Price, and Mikhail Grabovsky to the Florida Panthers for Joe Nieuwendyk, Ed Belfour, Jozef Stumpel, Martin Gelinas, and Juraj Kolnik.

The Montreal Canadiens trade Kyle Chipchura, Sheldon Souray, and Tomas Plekanec to the Columbus Blue Jackets for Manny Malhotra, Ron Hainsey, and Jason Chimera.

The Montreal Canadiens trade Mike Ribeiro to the New York Islanders for Alexi Yashin.

The Montreal Canadiens trade Steve Begin, Garth Murray, Jozef Stumpel to the Calgary Flames for Andrei Zyuzin and Richie Regehr.

The Montreal Canadiens trade Alexander Perezhogin and Mike Komisarek to the New York Rangers for Jason Ward, Marcell Hossa, and Fedor Fedorov.

Sergei Samsonov - Saku Koivu - Juraj Kolnik
Marcell Hossa - Alexi Yashin - Martin Gelinas
Manny Malhotra - Joe Nieuwendyk - Jason Ward
Fedor Fedorov - Radek Bonk - Jason Chimera

Craig Rivet - Mathieu Dandenault
Francis Bouillon - Kevin Bieksa
Andrei Zyuzin - Ron Hainsey
Richie Regehr

Ed Belfour
Cristobal Huet

Guriken 07-27-2006 11:13 AM

Surovy - Lecavalier - Zednik
J. Ruuttu - Ribeiro - Daigle
Dagenais - Mike Ricci - Jani Rita
Brashear - Lapierre - Lapointe


Souray - Poti
Gill - Rathje
Belak - Cullimore

Martin Biron
Félix Potvin


Saku + for Lecavalier? why not, now we've a true captain! :D

The n00b King ©* 07-27-2006 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guriken (Post 6140673)
Surovy - Lecavalier - Zednik
J. Ruuttu - Ribeiro - Daigle
Dagenais - Mike Ricci - Jani Rita
Brashear - Lapierre - Lapointe


Souray - Poti
Gill - Rathje
Belak - Cullimore

Martin Biron
Félix Potvin


Saku + for Lecavalier? why not, now we've a true captain! :D

saku has a no-trade clause

line-up not feasible ;)

read the first post :P

Nobak 07-27-2006 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaolin_goon (Post 6140850)
saku has a no-trade clause

line-up not feasible ;)

read the first post :P

Maybe if we mess with the team badly enough he'll be willing to waive it.

Talent Analyst 07-27-2006 12:11 PM

Higgins for Budaj + Brisebois

Carey Price for Andrew Raycroft

Guillaume Latendresse for Jonathan Sim

habsprospects 07-27-2006 02:36 PM

Alexei Kovalev, Craig Rivet & 2nd round pick for Darcy Tucker & Wade Belak
Andrei Markov for Éric Desjardins
trade back David Aebischer with Cristobal Huet for José Théodore, sign Byron Dafoe as back-up
Francis Bouillon for Jamie Heward
Mark Streit & Mike Komisarek for Eric Cairns
Bought out Mathieu Dandenault, sign Lyle Odelein
Michael Ryder for Dallas Drake
Mike Johnson for Pierre Turgeon
Mike Ribeiro & Sergei Samsonov for Joe Nieuwendyk & Gary Roberts
Keep Saku Koivu, Steve Bégin, Radek Bonk & Aaron Downey
Sheldon Souray for Derek Meech
Send Tomas Plekanec, Alexander Perezhogin, Chris Higgins & Garth Murray to AHL, sign Oleg Petrov, Benoit Gratton, Jesse Bélanger & Éric Landry then lose all 4 guys we sent to AHL to waivers
So then the team was so messed badly that Koivu retire and go back play for TPS Turku after one month

The n00b King ©* 07-27-2006 03:27 PM

these trades will definitely bring us the cup boys!

totally underated

yvan74 07-27-2006 09:31 PM

Huet,Abisher,Souray for M.Koivu

S.Koivu for Thibeault(Houle still think he can bring da cup)


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