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not quite yoda 08-09-2006 09:44 PM

Ufa?
 
There seems to be a belief that Ryder is to be a RFA at season's end and not a UFA.

Explain to me how Ryder doesn't qualify as a UFA. Because he was born in the spring of 1980... same as Ribeiro, Gagne and Tanguay... all of whom were or are scheduled to become UFA at the end of this season, given that their contract expires this summer.

Grabo59 08-09-2006 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Macho Man (Post 6249859)
There seems to be a belief that Ryder is to be a RFA at season's end and not a UFA.

Explain to me how Ryder doesn't qualify as a UFA. Because he was born in the spring of 1980... same as Ribeiro, Gagne and Tanguay... all of whom were or are scheduled to become UFA at the end of this season, given that their contract expires this summer.

Because Ryder's rookie year was when he was 23, which was after those guys. It's by seasons played not age.

not quite yoda 08-09-2006 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by michayel (Post 6249896)
Because Ryder's rookie year was when he was 23, which was after those guys. It's by seasons played not age.

no it is by age OR by the number of seasons played.
the UFA age is 27 OR 7 accrued seasons. Ryder will be 27 (while having less than 7 accrued seasons) just like Ribeiro. Both are UFAs to be I believe.

Grabo59 08-09-2006 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Macho Man (Post 6249999)
no it is by age OR by the number of seasons played.
the UFA age is 27 OR 7 accrued seasons. Ryder will be 27 (while having less than 7 accrued seasons) just like Ribeiro. Both are UFAs to be I believe.

sorry, I assumed accrued and played where the same thing

Squeaky 08-09-2006 10:05 PM

I believe it is because next year the UFA age is 28. The year after it is 27. From NHL.com:

FREE AGENCY

How will Free Agency work?

Unrestricted Free Agency - For the 2005-06 season, a player age 31 with four accrued seasons will be an unrestricted free agent; in 2006-07, a player age 29 with four accrued seasons or with eight accrued seasons; in 2007-08, a player age 28 with four accrued seasons or with seven accrued seasons; beginning in 2008-09 and for the duration of the agreement, a player age 27 with four accrued seasons or with seven accrued seasons will be an unrestricted free agent. For purposes of qualifying for unrestricted free agency, the 2004-05 cancelled season will be counted as a year of accrued service.

habsprospects 08-09-2006 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by michayel (Post 6250021)
sorry, I assumed accrued and played where the same thing

NHL seasons for Free Agent only count if the player have played 40 regular NHL games or more (30 for G)

Hackett 08-09-2006 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Macho Man (Post 6249999)
no it is by age OR by the number of seasons played.
the UFA age is 27 OR 7 accrued seasons. Ryder will be 27 (while having less than 7 accrued seasons) just like Ribeiro. Both are UFAs to be I believe.

then how come JP Dumont was a RFA this off season at age 28?

Edit: Squeaky just answered my question

not quite yoda 08-09-2006 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squeaky (Post 6250040)
I believe it is because next year the UFA age is 28. The year after it is 27. From NHL.com:

FREE AGENCY

How will Free Agency work?

Unrestricted Free Agency - For the 2005-06 season, a player age 31 with four accrued seasons will be an unrestricted free agent; in 2006-07, a player age 29 with four accrued seasons or with eight accrued seasons; in 2007-08, a player age 28 with four accrued seasons or with seven accrued seasons; beginning in 2008-09 and for the duration of the agreement, a player age 27 with four accrued seasons or with seven accrued seasons will be an unrestricted free agent. For purposes of qualifying for unrestricted free agency, the 2004-05 cancelled season will be counted as a year of accrued service.


could you please provide link to that paragraph?

GoHabsGO252006 08-09-2006 10:27 PM

Squeaky saves me from having to go to it myself...it's really not that complicated.

Markov will be a UFA at seaon's end that one I checked myself. No to everyone else.

Squeaky 08-10-2006 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Macho Man (Post 6250137)
could you please provide link to that paragraph?

I gave you the site, you can't find it yourself?

http://www.nhl.com/nhlhq/cba/index.html

That's where I got the paragraph from, but it's actually just questions about the CBA. If you hate life, you can also read the actualy text itself here:

http://nhlpa.com/CBA/2005CBA.asp

Blind Gardien 08-10-2006 10:40 AM

Read Section 10.1 (a) (i) in the CBA. It's 28 years old OR 7 accrued seasons for unrestricted free agency next summer. Ryder will be 27 with 4 accrued seasons.

Those other guys like Gagne and Gomez started playing at age 20, so they'll already meet the 7 accrued seasons criterion.

Ribeiro will also be 27, but with just 6 accrued seasons, so he will still be RFA too.

Markov will be 28 with 7 accrued seasons, so he's UFA either way.

habsprospects 08-10-2006 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind Gardien (Post 6252991)
Read Section 10.1 (a) (i) in the CBA. It's 28 years old OR 7 accrued seasons for unrestricted free agency next summer. Ryder will be 27 with 4 accrued seasons.

Those other guys like Gagne and Gomez started playing at age 20, so they'll already meet the 7 accrued seasons criterion.

Ribeiro will also be 27, but with just 6 accrued seasons, so he will still be RFA too.

Markov will be 28 with 7 accrued seasons, so he's UFA either way.

You shall all trust the Roster thread to see if they are UFA or not :teach:
or my web site

toshiro 08-10-2006 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Macho Man (Post 6249859)
There seems to be a belief that Ryder is to be a RFA at season's end and not a UFA.

Explain to me how Ryder doesn't qualify as a UFA. Because he was born in the spring of 1980... same as Ribeiro, Gagne and Tanguay... all of whom were or are scheduled to become UFA at the end of this season, given that their contract expires this summer.

If He is eligible for arbitration next year and scores 40goals will he be cut loose?


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