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24Cups 08-11-2006 12:34 PM

CBC: The Devil You Know
 
"Two well-placed sources say Bell Globemedia, which owns CTV and TSN as well as The Globe and Mail and part of the Toronto Maple Leafs, is likely to proffer a bid that the CBC may find impossible to match -- $140-million a year for 10 years, for a total of $1.4-billion. That would be for everything: Canadian English-language broadcast rights, cable rights, French-language rights and ownership of Internet streaming." William Houston, Globe and Mail Aug. 11, 2006

Bell Globemedia = TSN = Maple Leafs. That explains the "Toronto" in TSN. Don't expect many english Saturday night broadcasts of Les Canadiens unless they are playing the Leafs, if this deal goes through. :banghead:

HabsUnited 08-11-2006 12:35 PM

Memo to Gillett: buy the rights to HNIC.

HarryHabs 08-11-2006 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24Cups (Post 6262955)
"Two well-placed sources say Bell Globemedia, which owns CTV and TSN as well as The Globe and Mail and part of the Toronto Maple Leafs, is likely to proffer a bid that the CBC may find impossible to match -- $140-million a year for 10 years, for a total of $1.4-billion. That would be for everything: Canadian English-language broadcast rights, cable rights, French-language rights and ownership of Internet streaming." William Houston, Globe and Mail Aug. 11, 2006

Bell Globemedia = TSN = Maple Leafs. That explains the "Toronto" in TSN. Don't expect many english Saturday night broadcasts of Les Canadiens unless they are playing the Leafs, if this deal goes through. :banghead:

So we won't see any difference with CBC then.

habfan4 08-11-2006 12:37 PM

Doesn't CTV provide regional coverage? I would think that they'd offer a better chance than the CBC (certainly additional cable TV options) for Habs fans outside of Quebec to see the Canadiens, likewise the other Canadian franchises.

CaptCrunch 08-11-2006 12:39 PM

Nothing to see here!

:dm:

David_99 08-11-2006 12:40 PM

So Bell Globemedia wants to buy the CBC? Doesn't the government own the CBC? Don't we pay the government for the CBC? Shouldn't we be seeing some $ from Bell Globmedia? :sarcasm:

bayrider 08-11-2006 12:42 PM

Bell Globe Media also owns RDS... so technically I dont see anythong wrong there. Why would BGM not continue french broadcasts of Habs games when it owns RDS. Basically they're buying the english rights to the games, they already own the french rights.

Hackett 08-11-2006 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 24Cups (Post 6262955)
"Two well-placed sources say Bell Globemedia, which owns CTV and TSN as well as The Globe and Mail and part of the Toronto Maple Leafs, is likely to proffer a bid that the CBC may find impossible to match -- $140-million a year for 10 years, for a total of $1.4-billion. That would be for everything: Canadian English-language broadcast rights, cable rights, French-language rights and ownership of Internet streaming." William Houston, Globe and Mail Aug. 11, 2006

Bell Globemedia = TSN = Maple Leafs. That explains the "Toronto" in TSN. Don't expect many english Saturday night broadcasts of Les Canadiens unless they are playing the Leafs, if this deal goes through. :banghead:

This could be a good thing if Bell decides that they will use both the CTV network and TSN to show HNIC. That way, they can put the leaf game on CTV and the hab games on TSN and work the sens in too perhaps regionally. I'm only talking about the staurdays here.

No way CBC will match this kind of offer IMO. Their sports dept has been slowly evaporating to the increased competition and it was only a matter of time before they lost HNIC.

Habber 08-11-2006 12:54 PM

Sounds fine to me.

TSN hockey has been getting better and better, while CBC has been getting worse and worse.

Plus you know if the NHL jumps ship to TSN/CTV, Ron McLean, Don Cherry, etc won't be far behind. (see: Brian Williams & Olympics)

L'abstrait 08-11-2006 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bayrider (Post 6263046)
Bell Globe Media also owns RDS... so technically I dont see anythong wrong there. Why would BGM not continue french broadcasts of Habs games when it owns RDS. Basically they're buying the english rights to the games, they already own the french rights.

Man I just wish we were back in the days when you didnt need cable to watch a freakin' hockey game!

Those were the days.

yukoner 08-11-2006 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 24Cups (Post 6262955)
Bell Globemedia = TSN = Maple Leafs. That explains the "Toronto" in TSN. Don't expect many english Saturday night broadcasts of Les Canadiens unless they are playing the Leafs, if this deal goes through. :banghead:

ANd that woudl be different than CBC in what way??

*granted the new CBC schedule looks much better than last years*

bayrider 08-11-2006 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by L'abstrait (Post 6263335)
Man I just wish we were back in the days when you didnt need cable to watch a freakin' hockey game!

Those were the days.

Well, times change. Having cable should be like owning a phone nowadays. I'd buy cable just to watch the Habs!

wpg_habsfan 08-11-2006 01:44 PM

It's definitely going to be weird if CTV/TSN gets hockey night in Canada. They should bring the cast from CBC over, because if they don't it wouldn't feel very good to have Pierre McGuire on as coach for Coach's Corner. :sarcasm:

VanNistelrooy 08-11-2006 01:49 PM

All I want is Jim Hughson.

This guy rocks everytime I listen a Hockey game in english.

deandebean 08-11-2006 02:32 PM

What's wrong with that? Forget about the Laffs, it's about Bell Globemedia. Already owners of RDS, like someone said. It'll be perfect. It would mean that the Habs would be on the main tv network d'un océan à l'autre again.

Stefan 08-11-2006 03:22 PM

This would be a good move IMO... I don't get all the hating.

24Cups 08-11-2006 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 6264515)
This would be a good move IMO... I don't get all the hating.

I agree it will be a good move for hockey fans in general (I grow/grew tired of CBC's staid product). Although I am not sure that CTV will regionalize a Saturday night game, so you can expect as much of a dose of the Leafs in english on that night as you saw this year (and was much maligned on this board).

There is no hating, it's all about the irony of the CBC being a public entity and critisized for being Toronto-centric while a Leaf-owned (partially) competitor is about to outbid CBC to broadcast all hockey games in Canada.

mooseOAK* 08-11-2006 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24Cups (Post 6262955)
"Two well-placed sources say Bell Globemedia, which owns CTV and TSN as well as The Globe and Mail and part of the Toronto Maple Leafs, is likely to proffer a bid that the CBC may find impossible to match -- $140-million a year for 10 years, for a total of $1.4-billion. That would be for everything: Canadian English-language broadcast rights, cable rights, French-language rights and ownership of Internet streaming." William Houston, Globe and Mail Aug. 11, 2006

Bell Globemedia = TSN = Maple Leafs. That explains the "Toronto" in TSN. Don't expect many english Saturday night broadcasts of Les Canadiens unless they are playing the Leafs, if this deal goes through. :banghead:

Of course, if they pay all of that money they are going to maximize their ratings.

JordanStaal#1Fan 08-11-2006 05:23 PM

That means no more games on Roger SportsNet, crap. They had the best regionnal coverage and we'll be stuck with 82 Leafs game on TSN, double crap...

optimus2861 08-11-2006 05:35 PM

It can't be any worse. It really can't. Does anyone think TSN/CTV would have dropped the ball on the Geoffrion situation the way CBC did? To me, that night was the absolute lowest that HNIC has ever sunk, and laid bare the Leafs-first rot that's seeped into every corner of the production.

So let HNIC die. It hasn't been worthy of the name for some time now anyway.

HABitual 08-12-2006 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24Cups (Post 6262955)
Don't expect many english Saturday night broadcasts of Les Canadiens unless they are playing the Leafs, if this deal goes through. :banghead:

I don't even remember the last time CBC Montreal aired a Montreal game :shakehead

Kirk Muller* 08-12-2006 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by mooseOAK (Post 6264644)
Of course, if they pay all of that money they are going to maximize their ratings.

Exactly.

When Montréal starts being a good team again, they will become a big TV draw and CTV/TSN will be able to attract ratings of one million and more for their regular season games, let alone the playoffs. People should remember that as a corporate broadcaster, Bell Globemedia will be much more sensitive to market needs than a public broadcaster like CBC that just gets its annual billion dollar cheque from the government.

Hockey is a cash cow for TV networks in Canada. Expect to get all 82 games on RDS and many more on TSN and CTV.

Stefan 08-12-2006 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by HABitual (Post 6267638)
I don't even remember the last time CBC Montreal aired a Montreal game :shakehead

Nationally? Hockey Day in Canada, so not too long ago. Short memory eh?

Anthony P 08-19-2006 12:34 PM

Wasn't TSN purchased by ESPN a while back?

David_99 08-19-2006 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Anthony P (Post 6321255)
Wasn't TSN purchased by ESPN a while back?

I thought so too, cause their logo is now the same font, and of course the change from Sports Desk to Sports Center.


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