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boomboom 11-17-2003 08:01 AM

2 habs proposals
 
To Mtl: Rolston and Gill
To Boston: Koivu and rivet

This one will never happen, but still....



To Chicago: Hainsey, Zednick and 1 rst round
To Mtl: Daze

1rst rounder might be pretty good one
if the habs play this bad all year long.

btn 11-17-2003 08:19 AM

Montreal overpays for Daze there.

I just do not think Boston would make that move. Rolston is underrated.

Ice Cream Man 11-17-2003 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boomboom
To Mtl: Rolston and Gill
To Boston: Koivu and rivet

This one will never happen, but still....



To Chicago: Hainsey, Zednick and 1 rst round
To Mtl: Daze

1rst rounder might be pretty good one
if the habs play this bad all year long.

Oddly enough, it seems like the HABS are the ones overpaying in these proposals.

oilers_guy_eddie 11-17-2003 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ice Cream Man
Oddly enough, it seems like the HABS are the ones overpaying in these proposals.

Yeah. The Boston one is debatable, but the Daze one is a disaster for the Habs.

BladesofSteel21 11-17-2003 08:25 AM

Daze's career may be over with a severe back injury.

Psycho Papa Joe 11-17-2003 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boomboom
To Mtl: Rolston and Gill
To Boston: Koivu and rivet

This one will never happen, but still....



To Chicago: Hainsey, Zednick and 1 rst round
To Mtl: Daze

1rst rounder might be pretty good one
if the habs play this bad all year long.

Both are brutal from a Habs point of view. Just ugly.

Rolston is a very good player for the Bruins, but would not be able to replace Koivu as a #1 center. If the Habs had a true #1 center possibility other than Koivu, I might make that deal, but they don't. Boston probably wouldn't do the deal either because Rolston fills a very important role on the 2nd/3rd line that Koivu is ill equiped to handle, and they would be taking on too much salary.

The second one isn't worth discussing.

Mizral 11-17-2003 08:48 AM

Last year, Daze for Zednik would have been a clear loss by the Hawks. But now, with Daze looking to be just about finished.. his value is almost nil. You could probobly get him for Hainsey alone.

Psycho Papa Joe 11-17-2003 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizral
Last year, Daze for Zednik would have been a clear loss by the Hawks. But now, with Daze looking to be just about finished.. his value is almost nil. You could probobly get him for Hainsey alone.

Right now I wouldn't go higher than a conditional pick.

boomboom 11-17-2003 08:53 AM

Then I will explain my point of view on my proposals....lol
I know the Koivu prop. seems bad for the Habs, but the thing is that Koivu is injurie prone player, wich is not the case for Rolston. So, why not bring in a player that could play offense and deffense every night (by the way who is also cheap). As for Rivet, he s to expensif and has no balls. Gill would bring size and fear.If he does not do the trick, we bring in Komisarek, which will happen any time soon anyway.

As for the Daze proposal. I agrea on the 1 rst round (may be to high).
Other than that, Daze could be what the habs need, a power foward that can score and is big. Keep in mind, u have to give to receive, and since Montreal is the one making the proposition, he has to give more.

KOMO_ROCKS 11-17-2003 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizral
Last year, Daze for Zednik would have been a clear loss by the Hawks. But now, with Daze looking to be just about finished.. his value is almost nil. You could probobly get him for Hainsey alone.

I probably would not even do that for the habs

boomboom 11-17-2003 09:14 AM

[You should probably do a bit of research on where Daze is at this point, health-wise. I think you might want to reconsider your post after you do.[/QUOTE]
the Daze proposal is based on if he returns healthy, if not off course I would not risk the trade, no one would. But if he could come back and be the player he can, I would do the trade and not think about it twice.

KOMO_ROCKS 11-17-2003 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boomboom
[You should probably do a bit of research on where Daze is at this point, health-wise. I think you might want to reconsider your post after you do.

the Daze proposal is based on if he returns healthy, if not off course I would not risk the trade, no one would. But if he could come back and be the player he can, I would do the trade and not think about it twice.[/QUOTE]

perhaps conditional picks would make the deal better for both sides

boomboom 11-17-2003 09:27 AM

see I agrre on that, actually it would make alot of sense, getting some cond. drafts in there.

bythe way, anyone knows what s going on with Corson. Can he sign with any club he wants or what, I herd runours he was going to sign with Mtl.... if so, please send a collect call to Gainey from stupid, he ll probably accept it.

bb_fan 11-17-2003 09:41 AM

If i were boston definit no no.

And if your looking for a defensmen that strikes fear into forwards, gill's tall, but that its. He's good at what he does, but what he doesn NOT do is intimidate anyone.

Cerebral 11-17-2003 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by boomboom
Other than that, Daze could be what the habs need, a power foward that can score and is big.

Have you ever watched Daze play? He is definitely big but I personally wouldn't classify him as a power forward.. in no way does he look similar to a Tkachuk or old school Lindros. He strikes me more as a big guy playing a little guy's type game.. he gets a lot of his goals from big shots from the high slot, not from crashing the net. While he is a good scorer, he certainly wouldn't fill Montreal's void in the power forward area..

Psycho Papa Joe 11-17-2003 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by NotTheRat
great post. I agree that anyone who uses the term "power forward" and Eric Daze in the same sentence (except if that sentence is something along the lines of "I've seen power forwards and Eric Daze isn't a power forward.") hasn't watched Daisy much, if at all. He's certainly big, but that's where that comparison ends. He is not a physical player in the least, certainly not to any large degree.
Then again when I watch Montreal play I could see how, in comparison, Daze's style of play would appear to be physical.

My name for big guys who play like Daze is Power Puff.

Munchausen 11-17-2003 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boomboom
Daze could be what the habs need, a power foward

My grandma would probably suit the term power-forward more than Daze. Think Dagenais with more scoring skills. Never will he power his way to anywhere or through anyone. He's a big softy that does not use his size at all to be physical. Look passed his size. Daze is a sniper. Period. And probably a finnished one added to that. Very little chance he comes back to his old form and will likely not play in this league for very long with his condition.

tiredman 11-17-2003 05:18 PM

I Think The Habs Should Try To Get A Player Like Shane Doan But Do You Think Bob Gainey Could Obatin Him ? If Yes, Which Player(s) Could The Habs Give ?

RE-HABS 11-17-2003 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boomboom
To Mtl: Rolston and Gill
To Boston: Koivu and rivet

This one will never happen, but still....



To Chicago: Hainsey, Zednick and 1 rst round
To Mtl: Daze

1rst rounder might be pretty good one
if the habs play this bad all year long.

I guess your in the dark about Daze's back problems then? What an aweful proposal. You really don't see the value that a Hainsey, Zednik and 1st rounder could bring in return do you...it would land a much bigger fish than Daze. A lot of GM's in the league would offer you a lot for that package, that's for sure.


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