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johnnyboo 09-11-2006 05:28 AM

habsworld article on the "Scores" predictions
 
http://www.habsworld.net/article.php?id=1173

LePoche69 09-11-2006 07:41 AM

I stopped reading when they compared Habs' goaltending to buffalo's and stated that Habs have better talent overall in that area... Ouch...

Fozz 09-11-2006 07:42 AM

While I don't agree with the score's prediction regarding the Habs, saying that Buffalo "have less talented goaltending" then the Habs is pure nonesense.

Dogbert* 09-11-2006 07:46 AM

Man... that's a homer article. I mean really, really homer. Does this guy have his Tricolore blinders stapled to his face, or what?

SerialSeb 09-11-2006 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogbert (Post 6463664)
Man... that's a homer article. I mean really, really homer. Does this guy have his Tricolore blinders stapled to his face, or what?

It's Habs world

Got to feel in that Bias (ENGLISH MEDIA) slot for the hABS.

EVERY OTHER TEAM AS ONE
;)

Bunka Gurndeep 09-11-2006 08:56 AM

lol..they have 2 teams from the same division in the top 3

znk 09-11-2006 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcooke (Post 6463903)
lol..they have 2 teams from the same division in the top 3

I dont see them as "adjusted" rankings. I prefer to see teams ranked by "points" then by division leaders etc... It gives a better picture.

tinyzombies 09-11-2006 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LePoche69 (Post 6463647)
I stopped reading when they compared Habs' goaltending to buffalo's and stated that Habs have better talent overall in that area... Ouch...

Not good.

Knuckles30 09-11-2006 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fozz (Post 6463649)
While I don't agree with the score's prediction regarding the Habs, saying that Buffalo "have less talented goaltending" then the Habs is pure nonesense.

What's wrong with saying Montreal has better goaltending?

2005-06:
Miller 48GP 2.60AVG .914SV 1SO
Biron 35GP 2.88AVG .905SV 1SO

Huet 36GP 2.20AVG .929SV 7SO
Aebischer 50GP 3.09AVG .899SV 3SO

If we take weighted averages for both teams:

Buffalo: 2.72AVG .910SV 1SO
Mtl: 2.72AVG .912SV 5SO

Those numbers are pretty much identical, untill you factor in that the Habs numbers are skewed downwards because Aebischer played more games than Huet.

I'm not saying I agree that Mtl has better goaltending than Buffalo, but it's at least a debate.

SuperUnknown 09-11-2006 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knuckles30 (Post 6464837)
What's wrong with saying Montreal has better goaltending?

2005-06:
Miller 48GP 2.60AVG .914SV 1SO
Biron 35GP 2.88AVG .905SV 1SO

Huet 36GP 2.20AVG .929SV 7SO
Aebischer 50GP 3.09AVG .899SV 3SO

If we take weighted averages for both teams:

Buffalo: 2.72AVG .910SV 1SO
Mtl: 2.72AVG .912SV 5SO

Those numbers are pretty much identical, untill you factor in that the Habs numbers are skewed downwards because Aebischer played more games than Huet.

I'm not saying I agree that Mtl has better goaltending than Buffalo, but it's at least a debate.

Miller is the best goaltender in the bunch. That's whats wrong. ;)

Bryzga lol* 09-11-2006 01:12 PM

The Miller-Biron combo is better than the Huet-Aebicher combo. But I think saying Huet is better than Miller is reasonable. Huet had way better numbers, and had 6 more shutouts while playing 12 games less than Miller (and playing on a team that finished lower in the standings). Yeah I know it's Huet's first season as a starter, but same for Miller. If Montreal had the team to get to the Conferance Finals like Buffalo, Huet would have played incredible, no doubt.

Shabutie 09-11-2006 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkside Cowboy (Post 6465164)
Miller is the best goaltender in the bunch. That's whats wrong. ;)

We won't know that till Huet's played a full season... I wouldn't doubt it though.

SOLR 09-11-2006 01:27 PM

Bla bla bla. Miller without Mckee. Miller played only 1 season as well, talk about an overhyped guy Theodore style because the D puts it together for 1 year.(Same can be said for Huet!) I think the tipping factor in this comparison is Biron>Aebie, not the 2 starting goalies.

SuperUnknown 09-11-2006 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOLR (Post 6465348)
Bla bla bla. Miller without Mckee. Miller played only 1 season as well, talk about an overhyped guy Theodore style because the D puts it together for 1 year.(Same can be said for Huet!) I think the tipping factor in this comparison is Biron>Aebie, not the 2 starting goalies.

I've seen Miller for quite a while and imo he's going to be a top 5 goaltender in the league for a long while. I also believe that Buffalo's weakness last year was their defence, and he was the difference between a conference title and a battle for the last playoff spot.

As to goaltender stats, they're hardly good to compare goaltenders because they're often biased. In Montreal, stats officials are shot crazy and there are games when over 20% of the shot total are from outside the blue line. It's not like that everywhere. I haven't paid particular attention to Buffalo's stats officials though, so it could be the same. The point is that you have to see what a goaltender does to be able to judge his play, regardless of the actual stats.

While Huet was really good last year, there's no doubt in my mind that Miller was even better. As to Biron vs Aebischer, I don't think a backup makes or breaks a team (evidenced by Marty Brodeur's weak backup year after year).

Talent Analyst 09-11-2006 02:57 PM

Oufff Philly 2rd ?:shakehead

Moester 09-11-2006 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ciggyboy (Post 6463400)

I don't think anyone can make really good predictions this year. I think that the bottom 4 will be composed of the teams who turn out to have the best chemistry/system/willingness. Some of the statements there were laughable, saying that the Leafs and Boston don't have a solid team is a joke. Sure I don't like them, they're rivals after all, but I think we'll have to watch out for them. The've got big bruising D-men and some solid goaltending. I'm not looking forward to facing them. Saying that Florida might finish 8th is also silly. Florida have and impressive top line with Bertuzzi, Jokinen Olesz/Roberts/Horton (I don't know enough about Florida to make an educated guess at the top line) could be pretty deadly especially if Belfour can have an injury-free season.

I think we're looking at a crapshoot this year...with no team outside the top 3 or top 4 having a real decided advantage over others at the start.

McTusk 09-11-2006 04:30 PM

I dunno about you guys, but Paul Dipietro’s antics on Long Island are definitely hard to take.

I hate these knee-jerk, you hate or didn't pick my team reactionary statements.

Ugh.


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