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londberg21 11-17-2003 09:37 AM

Brooks Orpik
 
How good is this guy gonna be? I've heard him described as Rob Blake, without the big shot. Red Wing fan here (please don't hate me) so I've never seen the guy play. If possible, could you give a numbers projection, say, 3 years from now? G, A, +/-, PIM.....stuff like that. Will he be a top 4 defenseman? Thanks a lot, all the answers are greatly appreciated. Bear in mind I did scour the forum last night, and got some great info on he and a few other Pens prospects. I just figured a more direct approach would be what I needed. Thanks again!

The Tang 11-17-2003 09:49 AM

while im not one for stats projection, and i cant see the games, i'll tell you what i know.

he has been our most consistent d-man so far, and does hit a lot. he has already racked up a fair amount of pim, but for the most part he has been disciplined and is noticbly improving.

while he isnt very offensive, he isn lacking in the are as say Melichar or Bergevin are. I dont think many, if any se him becoming a Blake. A Stevens is more likely as Orpik too is an open ice hitter. And most definitely he wil become a top 4 d-man. many project a #1 or #2.

Big McLargehuge 11-17-2003 11:07 AM

Orpik is a real defensive defenseman. He'll be one of the best hitters in the league for years to come but unlike the last big hitter on the blue line the Pens had he can actually play defense.

As (M)eth said though, 20-25 points would be a career year for him. I would compare him more to Adam Foote or Derian Hatcher as well.

AEKaki 11-17-2003 11:16 AM

Lets not compare him to Blake.
He's more like Derian Hatcher.
Lately, he goes in the offensive zone and tries to make a good scoring play, thats why the comparison to a young Hatcher is correct.

He's a HITTER, he's by far our best defenceman, and he will be a #1-2 in years to come.
I see him on team USA in the future.

tom_servo 11-17-2003 11:25 AM

Orpik can handle the puck, it seems. Nothing end-to-end, but he has nifty little moves that would keep a puck within the zone, or make a clever outlet pass. That's about the extent of it, though.

Speed Kills 11-17-2003 12:09 PM

What I like about him is that he is improving every time he plays. Someone mentioned his outlet pass and that his is nifty in his own end. I think all that is true. I love Foote and I only hope he can be just as good in a few years. But, I do think he is our best defenseman right now and defenitly be a # 2 D-man in the league.

look out for orpik 11-17-2003 12:18 PM

^^^^^^^^ yup what they all said :D and my name is exactly what guys from the other team should be saying to eachother huddled in their locker room before taking the ice :yo: ^^^^^^^^^ .... i sure hope his hits make the new don cherry tape this year :yo:

KungFuPenguin 11-17-2003 01:04 PM

You guys have got it all wrong. Orpik's actually a lot closer in style to Adam Foote, or even Derian Hatcher.

tom_servo 11-17-2003 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KungFuPenguin
You guys have got it all wrong. Orpik's actually a lot closer in style to Adam Foote, or even Derian Hatcher.

We've got it wrong, huh?

Jacob 11-17-2003 02:24 PM

Based on the replies in this thread, Orpik is pretty overrated by Penguins fans. He certainly won't ever be in the same league as Hatcher or Foote.
I see him as a Gauthier or Jason Smith type, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

The Tang 11-17-2003 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacobv2
Based on the replies in this thread, Orpik is pretty overrated by Penguins fans. He certainly won't ever be in the same league as Hatcher or Foote.
I see him as a Gauthier or Jason Smith type, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

well i wouldnt rule out the possibility he becomes that good, i think some, myself included, are comparing the style opf play.

KungFuPenguin 11-17-2003 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom_servo
We've got it wrong, huh?

I admit it was a rather lame attempt at humor, but I couldn't help myself.

Big McLargehuge 11-17-2003 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raider Zero
well i wouldnt rule out the possibility he becomes that good, i think some, myself included, are comparing the style opf play.

same here.

His style is closer to a Foote or Hatcher, but we'll be lucky if he does become that good. But it's definitely in the realm of possibility.

tom_servo 11-17-2003 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KungFuPenguin
I admit it was a rather lame attempt at humor, but I couldn't help myself.

Sorry. I've seen so many completely foolish posts on HFboards that it's hard to spot the sarcasm.

Evilo 11-17-2003 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacobv2
Based on the replies in this thread, Orpik is pretty overrated by Penguins fans. He certainly won't ever be in the same league as Hatcher or Foote.
I see him as a Gauthier or Jason Smith type, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

:shakehead
Orpik is right now in his rookie year as good as Gauthier (who is severly overrated BTW).
While he might not develop into another Foote, he has all the tools to do so.
I find nothing wrong with that.

Of course you find something wrong with everything.

Jacob 11-17-2003 07:32 PM

That's not true, I just like to think I have a good grasp on reality.

Plan 9 11-18-2003 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacobv2
That's not true, I just like to think I have a good grasp on reality.

That can be a rare trait around here at times.

Der Schweinehund 11-18-2003 03:39 AM

I just say "Who cares what/if he players like??" I am enjoying watching a reasonably steady progression and the grit and determination he wears on his sleeve.

Evilo 11-18-2003 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacobv2
That's not true, I just like to think I have a good grasp on reality.

What makes you think you have?
Be a little more modest, it won't hurt.

Your ego is way too big for a guy whose quality of post is so low.

Plan 9 11-18-2003 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evilo
What makes you think you have?
Be a little more modest, it won't hurt.

Your ego is way too big for a guy whose quality of post is so low.

Get over it already.

Jacob 11-18-2003 09:23 AM

I can't defend myself.. Things might get a little belligerent.

Plan 9 11-18-2003 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crystal(M)eth
Bro. let them handle their own disagreements.

Evilio won't change his opinion because you make some 4 word post..and Jacob is more than capable of defending himself.

I don't understand why ppl. see the need to jump into disagreements between others.

I'm not your "Bro". And perhaps I said something because when I come to a board called Pittsburgh Penguins I'd prefer to not have to sift through petty BS.

Evilo 11-18-2003 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Koltsov71
Get over it already.

I'd say I am not the one making big ego comments here.
-You guys are overrating.
-Why? You're being negative.
-No I see things the way they are. With my crystal ball.

I'd say all we have here is opinions. Somebody saying that all the others are wrong because he "likes to think (he) has a good grasp on reality" is not being modest enough IMO.

iagreewithidiots 11-18-2003 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koltsov71
I'm not your "Bro". And perhaps I said something because when I come to a board called Pittsburgh Penguins I'd prefer to not have to sift through petty BS.

So ignore it or report it to a mod but for god sakes dont contribute to it.

The Tang 11-18-2003 10:09 AM

keep it friendly people. lets just go back to talking about orpik again.


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