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x-bob 10-02-2006 05:43 PM

Higgins vs Plekanec
 
They are both playing huge roles on our team this season. Which will be better? Which will finish with more points?

Guy Caballero 10-02-2006 05:45 PM

Higgins has produced more so far (obviously), but I think Plekanec has more tools. This year I see them producing roughly evenly. Plekanec will be a bigger offensive threat in the future, though (which isn't to say he'll be the all-around better player).

habsforlife 10-02-2006 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Guy Caballero (Post 6637945)
Higgins has produced more so far (obviously), but I think Plekanec has more tools. This year I see them producing roughly evenly.

i think the same in terms of points with higgins scoring the goals and pleck in the assists department.

Drive425 10-02-2006 05:48 PM

I think this will be Pleks coming out party this year. If he's centre for Kovy & Samy he will get more pts then Higgins imho :poutine:

:wave: :poutine: :wave:

beowulf 10-02-2006 05:50 PM

If Pleks stays with the two Russians, it will be close. I think it may come down to which one gets more pp time. 50-60 pt season from both of them is very possible.

mcphee 10-02-2006 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by beowulf (Post 6637984)
If Pleks stays with the two Russians, it will be close. I think it may come down to which one gets more pp time. 50-60 pt season from both of them is very possible.

I agree. It's a tough call. I think Higgins might be a touch better offensively, Kovalev and Samsonov may score a bit more than Ryder/Koivu but Koivu may get 1st pp time in that Pleks will kill penalties.

So, to summarize, tough call, no idea.

jcpenny 10-02-2006 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mcphee (Post 6638018)
I agree. It's a tough call. I think Higgins might be a touch better offensively, Kovalev and Samsonov may score a bit more than Ryder/Koivu but Koivu may get 1st pp time in that Pleks will kill penalties.

So, to summarize, tough call, no idea.

Pleks has always been better offensively as he outscored Higgins every year in the AHL. Pleks will now have a chance to prove now that he will play on the 2nd line.

mcphee 10-02-2006 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jcpenny (Post 6638146)
Pleks has always been better offensively as he outscored Higgins every year in the AHL. Pleks will now have a chance to prove now that he will play on the 2nd line.

You may be right, then again, you may not be.

tritone 10-02-2006 06:17 PM

Apples Oranges, which is better? They are not the same type of player and they are not playing with the same types of linemates...why bother comparing?
They'll both do just fine and that's ok by me

JMMR 10-02-2006 06:19 PM

Yeah I would have to say Higgins will score more goals and PLekanec will pop more assists.
Overall if Plekanec stays the enitre year with Kovalev and Samsanov I believe he will score more points!

DerekT 10-02-2006 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mcphee (Post 6638191)
You may be right, then again, you may not be.

No room for error here :teach:

mcphee 10-02-2006 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DerekT (Post 6638296)
No room for error here :teach:

There's a line in Dylan's new album.

'It's one or the other or neither of the 2' I like that.

x-bob 10-02-2006 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mcphee (Post 6638334)
There's a line in Dylan's new album.

'It's one or the other or neither of the 2' I like that.

can't it be both:dunno:

AD 10-02-2006 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mcphee (Post 6638334)
It's one or the other or neither of the 2

You always put it out on the line don't you Mcphee. hey Dylan is coming to the Bell Centre I heard.. was I hallucinating?



N-E-Ways. As I said in another thread. I get the feeling higgins would have more points if he wasn't so damn defensively responsible and mature.

Damn him for my fantasy team :sarcasm:

mcphee 10-02-2006 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AymanD (Post 6638369)
You always put it out on the line don't you Mcphee. hey Dylan is coming to the Bell Centre I heard.. was I hallucinating?



N-E-Ways. As I said in another thread. I get the feeling higgins would have more points if he wasn't so damn defensively responsible and mature.

Damn him for my fantasy team :sarcasm:

Tickets are in my drawer right beside the pretzel.

mcphee 10-02-2006 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by x-bob (Post 6638363)
can't i be both:dunno:

I think the preceding line was, Hard luck woman stick to me like glue, so both wouldn't have ryhmed.

Dr_Hook 10-02-2006 06:42 PM

I love those 2 kids and they are for real !! :handclap: Points wise, I'd give an edge to Higgins cause I think Plekanec won't play all the pp situations with the russians: on pp you dont necessarely need a centerman per say, and with Samso and Kovalev handling the puck, I could see Latendresse getting some shifts to park his big butt in front of goalies.

Higgins: 34 goals, 71 points !!
Plekanec: 23 goals, 60 points

That being said, I'm thrilled that Plek finally gets a chance to prove his worth on the offensive side of things, playing with quality wingers ! I checked things out and last year, 5 on 5, he pretty much outscored Ribeiro (on a per/game basis) despite playing with less gifted wingers.

x-bob 10-02-2006 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr_Hook (Post 6638524)
I love those 2 kids and they are for real !! :handclap: Points wise, I'd give an edge to Higgins cause I think Plekanec won't play all the pp situations with the russians: on pp you dont necessarely need a centerman per say, and with Samso and Kovalev handling the puck, I could see Latendresse getting some shifts to park his big butt in front of goalies.

Higgins: 34 goals, 71 points !!
Plekanec: 23 goals, 60 points

That being said, I'm thrilled that Plek finally gets a chance to prove his worth on the offensive side of things, playing with quality wingers ! I checked things out and last year, 5 on 5, he pretty much outscored Ribeiro (on a per/game basis) despite playing with less gifted wingers.


How don't you need a centerman on the PP. Faceoffs are one of the most important aspects of Power plays!

znk 10-02-2006 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr_Hook (Post 6638524)
I love those 2 kids and they are for real !! :handclap: Points wise, I'd give an edge to Higgins cause I think Plekanec won't play all the pp situations with the russians: on pp you dont necessarely need a centerman per say, and with Samso and Kovalev handling the puck, I could see Latendresse getting some shifts to park his big butt in front of goalies.

Higgins: 34 goals, 71 points !!
Plekanec: 23 goals, 60 points

That being said, I'm thrilled that Plek finally gets a chance to prove his worth on the offensive side of things, playing with quality wingers ! I checked things out and last year, 5 on 5, he pretty much outscored Ribeiro (on a per/game basis) despite playing with less gifted wingers.

You need someone to win the faceoff on PP.....I dont see the Habs not sending a legitimate center on the ice.

VGTvidz 10-02-2006 07:07 PM

I remember last year when Higgins & Plekan were playing together on the power killing, they kept having 2 on 1 and did an awesome job, would be killer to see them together on the PK this year, they could add more pts!

Teufelsdreck 10-02-2006 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jcpenny (Post 6638146)
Pleks has always been better offensively as he outscored Higgins every year in the AHL. Pleks will now have a chance to prove now that he will play on the 2nd line.

Pleks is slightly older and the margin between the two in the AHL was not that great. Myself, I look forward to seeing both of them doing well with the Habs.

jcpenny 10-02-2006 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Teufelsdreck (Post 6639646)
Pleks is slightly older and the margin between the two in the AHL was not that great. Myself, I look forward to seeing both of them doing well with the Habs.

The year he was named MVP of the AHL all star game was enough for me to change my opinion on him. He displayed some sick skills during that game and he had the best season of his career. Id say Higgins has a bit more grit and hes a better goal scorer but Plekanec has the vision, passing abilities, smarts (although Higgins is a very smart player)

Rise from the Ashes 10-02-2006 09:24 PM

Id take Plekanec before Higgins

Le Tricolore 10-02-2006 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AymanD (Post 6638369)
You always put it out on the line don't you Mcphee. hey Dylan is coming to the Bell Centre I heard.. was I hallucinating?

Foo Fighters are opening.

I kind of want to go, but I don't think I will.

Dr_Hook 10-02-2006 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by x-bob (Post 6638569)
How don't you need a centerman on the PP. Faceoffs are one of the most important aspects of Power plays!

:eek: Face-offs last year : Kovalev: 48% Ribeiro: 44% .
Please anybody can take a face-off better than Ribs and that didn't keep him away from pp. Get the 3 guys that are more likely to get it done; if one happens to be a face-off specialist, great ! If not, too bad ! If we ever get a PP at the end of a game with a face-off in the off zone, we'll get Plekanec out there, and that's the end of it


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