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Cristobal Huet 10-18-2006 09:06 PM

Can someone tell me what KOVALEV is doing on the PK?
 
Really, what the heck is he doing there, he's been on the PK the last three games?

He's not much of a defensive asset

Bunka Gurndeep 10-18-2006 09:15 PM

Can someone tell me what THIS is doing in a separate thread?

NewHabsEra* 10-18-2006 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve The Habs Fan (Post 6804774)
Really, what the heck is he doing there, he's been on the PK the last three games?

He's not much of a defensive asset

Playing the PK, you have to move your feets, hustling and play intensive... Carbo probably wants Kovalev more in the game, thats why he uses him on PK.

e-e 10-18-2006 09:18 PM

can anybody tell me anything? :D

Le Tricolore 10-18-2006 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by e-e (Post 6805000)
can anybody tell me anything? :D

Philadephia onion dip is good.

Blades 0f Steel 10-18-2006 09:31 PM

-I'm a firm believer that chip dip is redundant.

-If Brett Hull can kill penalties then so too can Kovalev.

-Maybe Carbo's getting over-confident with the Hab's penalty killing success? :dunce:

Edit: this reply is all over the place, and for that, I am very sorry.

coolguy21415 10-18-2006 09:41 PM

Well you want people who understand how space can be exploited, and Kovalev is one of the best in the league at that. I suspect that his understanding of how he gets open helps shut the opposing team down.

Evil Ted 10-18-2006 10:17 PM

They often put him on late in the pk so that when its back 5 on 5 we have a offensive attack somewhat ready.

Watching the habs pk you can tell they spend alot of time practicing it because its that good.

GoneAway 10-18-2006 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve The Habs Fan (Post 6804774)
Really, what the heck is he doing there, he's been on the PK the last three games?

He's not much of a defensive asset

I'll tell you what he's doing...he's killing penalties...


CLOSE THE THREAD....


NOW

Cariboux 10-18-2006 10:19 PM

With the number of penalties, Carbo don't want Kovy to stay on the bench a lot of consecutive minutes so he use him a bit on the PK to let is body warm

Mike8 10-18-2006 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RedScull (Post 6805353)
Well you want people who understand how space can be exploited, and Kovalev is one of the best in the league at that. I suspect that his understanding of how he gets open helps shut the opposing team down.

Very good response!

Aarex 10-18-2006 11:01 PM

I've only ever seen him out there with 30 seconds left on the PK or less.

And I could be wrong, but im pretty sure we have more Short handed goals then power play goals against.

Taupy 10-18-2006 11:23 PM

I would not complain about our PK. Aren't we 2nd or something like that?

If we would be 30th like in the dark days, okay. But not now.

Galchenyuk x 27 10-18-2006 11:28 PM

We have the 2nd best PK in the league (1st before yesterday's game) yet you still find something to complain about.:shakehead

and then people say montreal has dumb fans.

If we had teh 2nd worst PK i would understand.. but it's working, so who cares?

AlexeiKovalev27 10-18-2006 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve The Habs Fan (Post 6804774)
Really, what the heck is he doing there, he's been on the PK the last three games?

He's not much of a defensive asset


Looks like you haven't followed Kovalev's career a lot, seeing in PK isn't new AT ALL except that last year Julien and Bob decided not the use him in PK anymore .
Kovalev can be good in PK since he is fast enough to go mess around with the puckholder and/or move backwards etc.

MathMan 10-18-2006 11:44 PM

Kovalev is underrated defensively. One of his big strengths is that once he gets his stick on the puck in the defensive zone, he'll often gain control of it and protect it enough to neutralize the attack.

He can be accused of not backchecking, but on the PK this is not a factor (and, really, hasn't been much of one this season 5-on-5 either.)

He was on the PK with Koivu fairly often at the beginning of last season.

As the Glorious Weep 10-18-2006 11:47 PM

Kovalev is killing a penalty. PK comes from the greek word Penalticus Cunnilingus and means "to pass the time":teach:

AlexeiKovalev27 10-18-2006 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MathMan (Post 6807184)
Kovalev is underrated defensively. One of his big strengths is that once he gets his stick on the puck in the defensive zone, he'll often gain control of it and protect it enough to neutralize the attack.

He can be accused of not backchecking, but on the PK this is not a factor (and, really, hasn't been much of one this season 5-on-5 either.)

He was on the PK with Koivu fairly often at the beginning of last season.

Yep exactly I can still remember, Talking about Kovalev...what are they waiting for to put Kovalev at the blue line in the PP? I mean he was very sucessful there with the pens/rangers

coolguy21415 10-18-2006 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexeiKovalev27 (Post 6807326)
Yep exactly I can still remember, Talking about Kovalev...what are they waiting for to put Kovalev at the blue line in the PP? I mean he was very sucessful there with the pens/rangers

I presume you mean PK, and I agree. Having Kovalev up on the point is great because he can burn them if they make a mistake. Having Bonk up there (though he did score shorthanded last night) just isn't as threatening.

Belso 10-19-2006 12:01 AM

Kovalev is doing what the coach asked him to. His best :D

MathMan 10-19-2006 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexeiKovalev27 (Post 6807326)
Talking about Kovalev...what are they waiting for to put Kovalev at the blue line in the PP? I mean he was very sucessful there with the pens/rangers

1- The Habs have a few good point D-Men (Souray, Markov)
2- Kovalev has been highly effective manning the boards
3- Kovalev has been used on the point on the PP, and remains an option if someone (usually Markov) is injured, but the opposing teams figured him out and started challenging him at the blueline and he'd shoot in their skates.

The Habs have a fairly effective PP as it is, there's little point in messing with it.

Teufelsdreck 10-19-2006 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve The Habs Fan (Post 6804774)
Really, what the heck is he doing there, he's been on the PK the last three games?

He's not much of a defensive asset

Did the Hawks score any PP goals with him on the PK? No. Did they notice him and try to keep the puck away from him? Yes.

Galchenyuk x 27 10-19-2006 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MathMan (Post 6807496)
1- The Habs have a few good point D-Men (Souray, Markov)
2- Kovalev has been highly effective manning the boards
3- Kovalev has been used on the point on the PP, and remains an option if someone (usually Markov) is injured, but the opposing teams figured him out and started challenging him at the blueline and he'd shoot in their skates.

The Habs have a fairly effective PP as it is, there's little point in messing with it.


Exactly..Kovalev on the PP controls the boards, and was so good about it is that with one move he ends up in the slot by himself for a big shot. (for example:the game winner last night)

Blades 0f Steel 10-19-2006 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MathMan (Post 6807184)
Kovalev is underrated defensively. One of his big strengths is that once he gets his stick on the puck in the defensive zone, he'll often gain control of it and protect it enough to neutralize the attack.

He can be accused of not backchecking
, but on the PK this is not a factor (and, really, hasn't been much of one this season 5-on-5 either.)

He was on the PK with Koivu fairly often at the beginning of last season.

Being 'rated' as good defensively, implies backchecking. It's as simple as that.

There's a difference between being aggressive on the PK, ie. being able to read plays and create dangerous turnovers, than there is being good defensively, which is basically hustling your butt off and outworking your opponent.

MathMan 10-19-2006 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BladesofSteel (Post 6807571)
Being 'rated' as good defensively, implies backchecking. It's as simple as that.

There's more to defense than rushing back after a turnover. It does no good to try to defend if you can't get the puck out of your zone. This is where Kovalev excels; if he gets the puck he'll usually control it then get it out, and I've seen that defuse many a dangerous-looking attack on the Habs since the start of last season. It's a crucial PK skill -- and I've lost track of the times I've rolled my eyes at a player with time and space getting rid of the puck too quickly on the PK and failing an easy clearout.

Ultimately it's a moot point so far this year because Kovalev has been backchecking...


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