HFBoards

HFBoards (http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/index.php)
-   Montreal Canadiens (http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16)
-   -   Souray one of the NHL 3 stars of the week (http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=303858)

znk 10-23-2006 04:14 PM

Souray one of the NHL 3 stars of the week
 
http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=p...ticleid=281634
I think this deserves it's own thread. We make threads when he's playing bad but this week I think this nomination is well deserved. Anyway he's up to a much better start then last year. Lets just hope the good continues to outway the bad as some have put it.:handclap:

Malakhov 10-23-2006 04:18 PM

9 points while being -4 and the habs have 22 goals against!:clap:

So Souray was there on the ice for 13 of the 22 goals allowed, almost 60% of them! :clap:

MontrealHabs 10-23-2006 04:25 PM

Goals in PP and SH are not accounted for the +/- . Actually, he was on the ice for four goals out of the 16 against the habs in even strength. It is not 60 %, it's in fact 25 %. Huge difference ;)

Garo 10-23-2006 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MontrealHabs (Post 6857518)
Goals in PP and SH are not accounted for the +/- .

Goals in SH are, pretty sure of that.

Anyway, congrats! As long as I don't see him against Afinogenov :sarcasm:

Medicine Twin 10-23-2006 04:35 PM

Yeah, you're right Malakhov. +/- is everything. Let's get rid of this floater! :shakehead

Malakhov 10-23-2006 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medicine Twin (Post 6857617)
Yeah, you're right Malakhov. +/- is everything. Let's get rid of this floater! :shakehead

I'm just exagerating the situation here, but Souray is getting more praise than he deserves. While he is very productive offensively, quite a few times defensively he has left me shaking my head in disbelief after a play.

MontrealHabs 10-23-2006 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malakhov (Post 6857671)
I'm just exagerating the situation here, but Souray is getting more praise than he deserves. While he is very productive offensively, quite a few times defensively he has left me shaking my head in disbelief after a play.

I agree that he's far from the best defensively, but you have to give the right numbers ! It is not 60 %, I repeat it is 25 % !

sXe 10-23-2006 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Medicine Twin (Post 6857617)
Yeah, you're right Malakhov. +/- is everything. Let's get rid of this floater! :shakehead

+/- can give an indication about a player but it's more of a "team stat" than anything else.
You should be shaking your head more at the fact that he doesn't even understand +/- yet he's using it to prove his point.

Talent Analyst 10-23-2006 04:43 PM

I'm so happy about Souray .. habitually , he have a slow start and at the end of the year , he look like a Norris winner .. hope he'll look like that all year :bow:

madbox 10-23-2006 04:47 PM

He had a big offensive week with a bunch of stars... good for him.
Just play better defensively. Please.

Habsfan 32 10-23-2006 04:48 PM

He's amazing offensivly now let's just hope he can play like this all year and get his overall game the same way.

lennywebster 10-23-2006 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malakhov (Post 6857468)
9 points while being -4 and the habs have 22 goals against!:clap:

So Souray was there on the ice for 13 of the 22 goals allowed, almost 60% of them! :clap:

are you serious ? is your name Jacques Dermers ? .. Power Play are N O T in the +/- rating ..

Short Handed Goal ARE in the +/- rating (when you're in PP)
I don't know if souray was on the ice for our 3 SHG .. if not :
Souray : 9 Points -> 8 PP points .. so 1 EVENSTRENGHT point.

Montreal : 22 Goals Againts : 0 SHG againts (when they were on PP)
4 PP Goal Againts .. so 18 of the 22 goals were EVEN

sheldon souray is -4 rating .. he was on the ice on 1 EV goal. so he's +1 ..

he was on the ici for 5 opposing teams goals ..

5 on 18 = 28 %

lennywebster 10-23-2006 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lennywebster (Post 6857798)
are you serious ? is your name Jacques Dermers ? .. Power Play are N O T in the +/- rating ..

Short Handed Goal ARE in the +/- rating (when you're in PP)
I don't know if souray was on the ice for our 3 SHG .. if not :
Souray : 9 Points -> 8 PP points .. so 1 EVENSTRENGHT point.

Montreal : 22 Goals Againts : 0 SHG againts (when they were on PP)
4 PP Goal Againts .. so 18 of the 22 goals were EVEN

sheldon souray is -4 rating .. he was on the ice on 1 EV goal. so he's +1 ..

he was on the ici for 5 opposing teams goals ..

5 on 18 = 28 %

Do your math dude.... that kind of post suck .. how about searching before writing some bullsh*t


Souray was on the ice for 2 of our 3 SHG .. so he's + 3

he was on the ice for 7 of 18 goals .. 39%

znk 10-23-2006 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malakhov (Post 6857468)
9 points while being -4 and the habs have 22 goals against!:clap:

So Souray was there on the ice for 13 of the 22 goals allowed, almost 60% of them! :clap:

I think you still have alot to learn about hockey my friend....and you should not learn it from the RDS talk backs.
Powerplay points dont count as a +.:clap:


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:40 PM.

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com, A property of CraveOnline, a division of AtomicOnline LLC ©2009 CraveOnline Media, LLC. All Rights Reserved.