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Habs4ever 11-23-2003 06:07 AM

2002 draft isn't looking too bad so far!!
 
Higgins, and Ferland have already been signed and I'm sure Lambert will be added next year, and if Korneev odds are good he could be something special in some years, but what about Deveaux has he done anything special this year??

Kasparov* 11-23-2003 06:23 AM

Yeah, well... not bad to get a guy like Lambert who was ranked 37th on the CSB's 2002 final rankings, and draft him in the 4th round 99th overall. ;)

Habsolument 11-23-2003 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Habs4ever
Higgins, and Ferland have already been signed and I'm sure Lambert will be added next year, and if Korneev odds are good he could be something special in some years, but what about Deveaux has he done anything special this year??

Deveaux is about a ppg playing in Owen Sound this year. He is a faceoff specialist and 6'5 215. I havn't see him play but stats wise I think BG will offer him a contract. You should go check the montreal's prospect update for more information.

RE-HABS 11-23-2003 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Habsolument
Deveaux is about a ppg playing in Owen Sound this year. He is a faceoff specialist and 6'5 215. I havn't see him play but stats wise I think BG will offer him a contract. You should go check the montreal's prospect update for more information.

Can he skate? Does he play a physical gaem with that size? If he does that is sweet. :D

Corey 11-23-2003 10:14 AM

In retrospect, with Hossa and Hainsey disappointing us so far, Houle's first round drafting performance seems worse than ever. I was hoping it had bottomed out after Chouinard.

gohabsgo2010 11-23-2003 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Corey
In retrospect, with Hossa and Hainsey disappointing us so far, Houle's first round drafting performance seems worse than ever. I was hoping it had bottomed out after Chouinard.

Hossa and Hainsey aren't dissapointing us. They haven't even been given the chance to dissapoint us.

theo6060 11-23-2003 10:18 AM

The problem with Hossa, that I see, seems to be confidence. If he has none, or very low confidence, then he doesn't play good. Sad thing is, I think his confidence has been shaken too much - BG's gotta sit down with him and try to get him on his game.

Thomas 11-23-2003 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Corey
In retrospect, with Hossa and Hainsey disappointing us so far, Houle's first round drafting performance seems worse than ever. I was hoping it had bottomed out after Chouinard.

Hossa just turned 22 and Hainsey is 22 years old, I wouldnt call players of that age busts just yet. They still have the potential, and you can see the skill, the Habs just dont seem to want to continue with the youth movement. Hainsey is getting the shaft so a 28 yr old waiver wire Bouillon can play, and Hossa is benched to watch players like Dackell play.

Mike8 11-23-2003 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasparov
Yeah, well... not bad to get a guy like Lambert who was ranked 37th on the CSB's 2002 final rankings, and draft him in the 4th round 99th overall. ;)

Why not? Lambert will be lucky to get a shift in a Montreal exhibition came, much less ever crack the NHL. He's a cream-puff with limited offensive upside. Think Brian Savage without the shot.

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Originally Posted by Habsolument
Deveaux is about a ppg playing in Owen Sound this year. He is a faceoff specialist and 6'5 215. I havn't see him play but stats wise I think BG will offer him a contract. You should go check the montreal's prospect update for more information.

I liked what I saw from Deveaux in his draft year. Big, with a developing mean streak, decent speed and good acceleration for his size, lacked a bit of mobility but he was on the right track. A year later, he's worse than he was in his draft year. He's a typical late-round pick IMO, and will be lucky to ever get a sniff of an NHL exhibition game.

montreal 11-23-2003 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike8
Why not? Lambert will be lucky to get a shift in a Montreal exhibition came, much less ever crack the NHL. He's a cream-puff with limited offensive upside. Think Brian Savage without the shot.



I liked what I saw from Deveaux in his draft year. Big, with a developing mean streak, decent speed and good acceleration for his size, lacked a bit of mobility but he was on the right track. A year later, he's worse than he was in his draft year. He's a typical late-round pick IMO, and will be lucky to ever get a sniff of an NHL exhibition game.


Lambert a Brian Savage? I don't see that, but I hate to compare any prospect to an NHLer. I think Lambert has a decent shot, but what I don't understand is their skating. Lambert is a good skater, good speed and size, Savage doesn't have good speed and isn't as good of a skater. I don't have high expectations for Lambert cause he is soft, but who knows how he will continue to develop. I've talked to some people that know him, and they said he had a real attitude problem in that he thought he was so great and was sure to be in the NHL. I don't know how true it is, doesn't matter. But I do know that he was one of the only disliked players on the team last year, cause he wouldn't backcheck hard, or get his nose dirty. But this year, in the few games I've listened on the radio, he does seem to drive the net more, and use his shot. I am planning on a 3 game trip of the Rocket later in the season, but for now I'll have to just listen on the radio. I am interested to see how he can handle himself in the AHL next year, to me that's where we will see what he can do.


Deveaux I have liked more then others, as the knock on him is that he doesn't show up every night, but some times big guys have trouble bringing every night. (it's hard to get all that body mass moving every night) But this year he's been taking the late game faceoffs and important draws, plus he went from one of the worst +/- on the team last year (-21) to the top on the team this year (+11 or so). While being 2nd or 3rd on the team in scoring. I like how he's progressed, but again the AHL will tell us more.

montreal 11-23-2003 11:58 AM

As for the 2002 draft, it's still way too early to evaluate how we did. But it is looking good so far.

Higgins is the bright spot by far. His talent and hard work are sorely needed with the big club. I was very impressed with him in the ECAC, and he didn't look like a 1st year in Hamilton, he fit right in, and is counted on by Jarvis to be a major part of the Dogs. This is a good sign to me, it shows that Higgins was well coached at Yale, and is showing he can handle himself as a pro hockey player. One game I was at, he was shooting every chance he got. He scored the game winner, and had something like 8 or 9 shots on goal. I look forward to his days as a Hab.

The Linhart pick will always be a mystery, and many will be pissed at who we didn't pick, but don't count him out yet. Yes he got cut from his junior team, who happen to have one of the top defensive cores in the CHL, but I think it worked out better for him, as he's playing in the Mens Div 1, instead of playing against 17-20 year olds. I hope he can make the U-20 team, but at least he's getting some time playing with them recently. Who knows what he could do a few years from now. It's very hard to get info out of the Czech league, so I'll mostly likely never see him play over there, but maybe in a few years he will surprise.

I was surprised we traded up to get Lambert, I figured management must have seen something in him to make a trade, but when I started talking to Rocket season ticket holders, I started to wonder what they were thinking. He was know for being a one way, soft, not hard working type of center/LW. I guess it was his play at the U-18's that got him on the Habs radar, but I have to give them credit, cause last year I thought they made a big mistake, after seeing Lambert benched for his poor play. Having Vigneault around may have been what Lambert needed, cause he's playing well and is 2nd in the Q in scoring, which is great to hear. I still don't hold a lot of hope of him ever being a Hab, but I thought he was a wasted pick, but now I think he can do some good for the Dogs in a few years, and from there who knows.

Deveaux may take a few years to find his game, but I really want to see him signed to see what he can do in the AHL. He does have a bit of a mean streak, as he's been kicked out of 2 or 3 games already this year, while scoring big goals, and playing well in his own end. I was glad to see him drafted, as we needed to pickup some guys with size, but if he keeps progressing, who knows what he can do in the future.

Ferland I have been a big fan of since we drafted him. I thought he looked good in his few games for the Dogs this year, that i was at. He is good along the boards, and his skating doesn't hold him back. I think he will have a much bigger role with the Dogs next year, but if he keeps progressing, I can see him in the NHL one day. The one thing is that he needs to bulk up some. He seems a little light to play a physical game, but he has to be careful, if he bulks up too much, it will slow him down. I also liked how he drove to the net, he hasn't scored much, but you got to have guys like him on your team.

Korneev I have gotten to see play a few times this year (I have 3 of his games from this season) He's not playing much, but he's on a good team, and has a solid base of skills. I keep thinking his size is a problem, and most likely it will be, but so far he's handled himself well, and has even thrown some good hits. He skates well, and can make a good quick pass. Don't know what management will do with him, I'd like to see him brought over to see how he handles the smaller ice surface. He angles his man out, or uses a good stick check, much like Markov did when he first got here. Until he adds some size and muscle, he will have to use angles and stick checks, to cover his man, but he will have trouble moving his man out of the crease.


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