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Hackett 10-27-2006 12:45 AM

What happened to Bonk?
 
Out of all his years in ottawa and last season in montreal, I can never remember Bonk taking the puck to the net with authority from the outside on a consistent basis.

He's been in the league for roughly 10 years now. Its very rare that after 10 years, a player suddenly decides to start driving to the net. He's also plastering people into the boards rather than doing a skate by with an attempted stickcheck.

He's finding room in the slot to get off some quick shots. I barely recongize this guy when you compared him to 2005-2006.

I wonder what what or who made Bonk change his game.

I'll tell you this much though. I'm lovin it.

superstar436 10-27-2006 12:48 AM

ANSWER : Last yeat of contract !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Hackett (Post 6899553)
Out of all his years in ottawa and last season in montreal, I can never remember Bonk taking the puck to the net with authority from the outside on a consistent basis.

He's been in the league for roughly 10 years now. Its very rare that after 10 years, a player suddenly decides to start driving to the net. He's also plastering people into the boards rather than doing a skate by with an attempted stickcheck.

He's finding room in the slot to get off some quick shots. I barely recongize this guy when you compared him to 2005-2006.

I wonder what what or who made Bonk change his game.

I'll tell you this much though. I'm lovin it.


CareyClutch 10-27-2006 12:49 AM

u.f.a next year

NewHabsEra* 10-27-2006 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hackett (Post 6899553)
Out of all his years in ottawa and last season in montreal, I can never remember Bonk taking the puck to the net with authority from the outside on a consistent basis.

He's been in the league for roughly 10 years now. Its very rare that after 10 years, a player suddenly decides to start driving to the net. He's also plastering people into the boards rather than doing a skate by with an attempted stickcheck.

He's finding room in the slot to get off some quick shots. I barely recongize this guy when you compared him to 2005-2006.

I wonder what what or who made Bonk change his game.

I'll tell you this much though. I'm lovin it.

Bonk has definitively been one of our best players so far... Arguably as solid as Koivu IMO...

Higgins = god

coolguy21415 10-27-2006 12:51 AM

As much as I like Bonk, and have for quite some time, I would hardly call his Zednik-one-hand-on-the-stick-around-the-net move "taking the puck to the net with authority from the outside on a consistent basis" as you put it. He did draw a penalty, but aside from that, there's really no point in that play.

Shabutie 10-27-2006 12:58 AM

I don't know exactly what you mean, but usually when Bonk drives the net, he goes around and tries a bad rap-around which usually doesn't lead to much. He's been more solid than last year due to being healthy and of course this being his contract season... Imo even if he does finish with 40-50 pts, he's not very needed (imo Pleks makes a better 3rd line center).

Sthabs 10-27-2006 01:19 AM

I think he was injured for almoste the whole season last year

hototogisu 10-27-2006 01:22 AM

Combination of being injured last year and playing in a contract season this year.

But he looked very good down the stretch and in the playoffs this year, I'm just glad it's carrying over to this season. He's a real workhorse out there, I'm glad he's on the team.

Dr_Hook 10-27-2006 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Shabutie (Post 6899616)
I don't know exactly what you mean, but usually when Bonk drives the net, he goes around and tries a bad rap-around which usually doesn't lead to much. He's been more solid than last year due to being healthy and of course this being his contract season... Imo even if he does finish with 40-50 pts, he's not very needed (imo Pleks makes a better 3rd line center).

The Bonk we're seeing these days is a good 3rd line center, so was Plekanec last year. Problem is: we're still lacking a 2nd line center

I just hope Gainey and the gang won't fall in love with the "I'm-UFA-this-summer-so-I-suddenly-find-my-game" Radek Bonk, and sign him to an overly-cheerful extension. Plekanec could do just as well on the 3rd line, for cheaper, and we could focus on searching someone to play in his spot, the second line, where he doesn't belong

mcphee 10-27-2006 07:05 AM

I think Bonk recognized his matchup at least twice last night. The B's rookie Lashoff, who I thought played pretty well overall, gave up the outside, and Bonk, being the veteran that he is, took what was there.

He does handle the puck well, and being smart enough to read the matchup in effect led to the winner last night.

LastChancePrice 10-27-2006 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by superstar436 (Post 6899569)
ANSWER : Last yeat of contract !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


TheHoser 10-27-2006 09:06 AM

Bonk is an incredible defensive player, any offense he generates is bonus. But that play in the last minute was great; he knew that Lashoff was playing his first game in the NHL and that he could force him to draw a rookie penalty. Great play.

Boulette Cannon 10-27-2006 09:18 AM

I think hes been watching the Maurice Richard movie too much!

The n00b King * 10-27-2006 09:21 AM

cocaine is a hell of a drug

Brett38 10-27-2006 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewHabsArea (Post 6899573)
Bonk has definitively been one of our best players so far... Arguably as solid as Koivu IMO...

Higgins = god


Ryder = Moses...leader to the promise land, but doesn't actually make it there...passes the torch to Joshua = Latendresse, Price?

heeeeeee!

CaptCrunch 10-27-2006 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr_Hook (Post 6899749)
The Bonk we're seeing these days is a good 3rd line center, so was Plekanec last year. Problem is: we're still lacking a 2nd line center

I just hope Gainey and the gang won't fall in love with the "I'm-UFA-this-summer-so-I-suddenly-find-my-game" Radek Bonk, and sign him to an overly-cheerful extension. Plekanec could do just as well on the 3rd line, for cheaper, and we could focus on searching someone to play in his spot, the second line, where he doesn't belong

I don't agree with Plek not being no2 material. We've been trying to find teamates for Kovalev for the past year now and Samsonov has a reputation for being difficult to match (just ask on the boston boards!). Plek hustles but we don't really have the easiest winger to give a rookie center.

However, where I agree is in hoping Gainey does not give Bonk an over-cheerful extension. Our last 2 GMs (Savard-Gainey) are always giving me cold sweat when comes the time for contract signing. Brisebois at 4 mil, Theo at 5 mil+, Bonk at 2.4 mil, Samsonov for 3.5 mil... always a bit more expensive than we have to pay.

I'll be the first to admit Bonk is playing great this season but he's still a sub 2 mil player IMO. I'm also a little wary of players suddently finding motivation on their contract year but that might just be me.

big_habs_fan 10-27-2006 09:55 AM

The entire third line has been amazing - I think Bonk's improved play has been in part due to the chemistry of the third line. Johnson has also had an incredibly positive impact and Perezhogin, although not scoring, has played very well. Add to that the PK tandem of Bonk and Johnson.

Bottom line, Bonk has shown up this year for day 1 - here's to everyone staying healthy and continuing to play hard.

But please, could we stop the ridiculous parade to the penalty box. Where is the discipline. Let's win some games 5 on 5. We need some flow to our games.

Go Habs Go

oop007* 10-27-2006 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sthabs (Post 6899707)
I think he was injured for almoste the whole season last year

He was.

Habnot 10-27-2006 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TheHoser (Post 6901127)
Bonk is an incredible defensive player, any offense he generates is bonus. But that play in the last minute was great; he knew that Lashoff was playing his first game in the NHL and that he could force him to draw a rookie penalty. Great play.

Incredible is a bit strong.

What I have heard with interest is how players tend to play better when the play with Bonk. I would love to see Bonk playing with Lats or Perezhogin and Kovalev and Plakanek with Johnson and Samsonov.

Higgins Koivu Ryger
Perezhogin (Lats) Bonk Kovalev
Samsonov Plakanec Johnson
Begin Lapierre Murray (now thats an energy line)

At this point I would lean on sending Lats down to junior.

GoneAway 10-27-2006 10:23 AM

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coolguy21415 10-27-2006 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Habnot (Post 6901663)
Incredible is a bit strong.

I don't think incredible is too strong. Bonk has to be one of the best 15 centres in the league defensively, and has adjusted to the new rules very well. Traditional defensive centres like John Madden haven't adjusted as well from the reduced clutching and grabbing, where has Bonk has (partly because that was never part of his game). If you reserve words like 'incredible' for players like Gretzky or Ovechkin, then Bonk isnt deserving, but to say Bonk isn't an above-excellent defensive centre doesn't do him justice.

Pax Macioretty 10-27-2006 11:04 AM

I don't care how good he is this year, i hope it's his last year with us. We have far too much kids waiting either in the AHL or CHL to earn a spot on our team but have no room. Players like Chipchura and Lappierre can do what he does and for alot of years to come as well. Pleckanek is another who's more suited for 3rd line duties then 2nd line. I really don't see how Bonk can do a better job then him.

Duster 10-27-2006 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Guillaume the great! (Post 6902269)
I don't care how good he is this year, i hope it's his last year with us. We have far too much kids waiting either in the AHL or CHL to earn a spot on our team but have no room. Players like Chipchura and Lappierre can do what he does and for alot of years to come as well. Pleckanek is another who's more suited for 3rd line duties then 2nd line. I really don't see how Bonk can do a better job then him.

I hope we re-sign Bonk at the end of the season. We are, at last, seeing the player Gainey had in mind when he was acquired. There is no one on the team or in the farm system that can bring his combination of size, skating and hockey sense to the third line. Moreover, he makes the players around him better which makes him even more valuable. Sure, there are kids in the system, but Chipchura is nowhere near ready and Lapierre plays a game more akin to Begin. If anything, Plekanec could be the odd man out...

mcphee 10-27-2006 12:10 PM

I think Bonk is an example of a player who somehow got comfortable in a passive style of play. He was happy to be the 3rd man high, not 'lay it all out' trying to attack the net. Sundstrom was the same. I think in Ottawa, Bonk was exposed in playoffs where the play got more intense and he'd gotten into bad habits [let Hossa do it]. He is a good defensive C, not great, but he's getting more involved by the game. He'll never be a great up tempo guy, and maybe he's playing better because it's a contract year, I don't know.

Maybe he realized that to play in the league now he has to do some things differently. Last year, McGuire was justified in making Bonk his whipping boy, this year, not so much.

wade 10-27-2006 12:36 PM

he has a weak shot though.. lol

and I dont care what anyone says, he looks slow on the break away he had


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