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Pierre Larondelle 11-24-2003 06:44 PM

CSB Lists -- NCAA
 
2003-04 NHL Central Scouting "Preliminary Ranking" - US Colleges - Nov. '03


Players Team League Birthdate HT WT POS SHOT
1 STAFFORD, Drew North Dakota WCHA 30-Oct-85 6'1 1/2 202 C/W R
2 PINEAULT, Adam Boston College H-East 23-May-86 6'1 193 RW R
3 O'NEILL, Wes Notre Dame CCHA 3-Mar-86 6'4 200 D L
4 THELEN, A.J. Michigan State CCHA 11-Mar-86 6'3 205 D L
5 BOOTH, David Michigan State CCHA 24-Nov-84 6'0 1/2 212 LW L
6 HENSICK, T.J. Michigan CCHA 10-Dec-85 5'9 180 C R
7 OLVER, Darin Northern Michigan CCHA 5-Mar-85 6'0 165 C L
8 LUNDIN, Mike Maine H-East 24-Sep-84 6'2 180 D L
9 BORER, Casey St. Cloud State WCHA 28-Jul-85 6'2 197 D L
10 SIGALET, Jonathan Bowling Green CCHA 12-Feb-86 6'1 170 D L
11 BIRNSTILL, Steve Northeastern H-East 6-Nov-85 6'2 185 D L
12 DOWELL, Jacob Wisconsin WCHA 4-Mar-85 6'0 195 C L
13 EARL, Robert Wisconsin WCHA 2-Jun-85 5'10 1/2 184 LW L
14 COLLINS, Dustin Northern Michigan CCHA 28-Feb-85 6'3 196 LW L
15 CAREFOOT, Mitch Cornell ECAC 2-Jan-85 6'1 209 C R
16 CIRULLO, Bryan Northeastern H-East 19-Feb-85 6'1 185 D L
17 WINNIK, Daniel New Hampshire H-East 6-Mar-85 6'2 210 C L
18 LIKENS, Jeff Wisconsin WCHA 28-Aug-85 5'10 163 D R
19 IHNACAK, Brian Brown ECAC 10-Apr-85 5'11 1/2 178 C R
20 SCHAEFFER, Kevin Boston University H-East 16-Oct-84 6'1 185 D R
21 CHRISTIE, Matt Miami-Ohio CCHA 22-Feb-85 5'10 185 C R
22 CARON, Jeff Merrimack H-East 7-Dec-85 6'2 175 D L
23 MOLE, Shawn Yale ECAC 28-Mar-85 6'0 185 D L
24 JOHNSON, Keith Maine H-East 21-Oct-84 5'10 177 C R
25 WILSON, Kyle Colgate ECAC 15-Dec-84 6'0 200 C L
26 HUNWICK, Matt Michigan CCHA 21-May-85 5'10 1/2 187 D L
27 SMYTH, Ryan Colgate ECAC 6-Nov-84 6'2 210 RW R
28 AQUINO, Luciano Maine H-East 26-Jan-85 5'10 175 C L
29 HEATLEY, Mark Wisconsin WCHA 4-May-84 6'3 195 RW L
30 WATER, Ben Mass-Lowell H-East 11-May-84 6'1 195 C L
31 COOPER, Joe Miami-Ohio CCHA 6-Jul-85 6'0 200 RW R
32 SULLIVAN, Ryan Merrimack H-East 7-Aug-85 6'2 180 D L
33 BOUCHARD, Olivier Union ECAC 2-Mar-84 6'3 195 LW L
34 WESTGARTH, Kevin Princeton ECAC 7-Feb-84 6'4 235 LW L
35 ZABKOWICZ, Tom Maine H-East 9-Nov-84 6'0 175 D R



Goaltenders Team League Birthdate HT WT POS SHOT
1 MONTOYA, Alvaro Michigan CCHA 13-Feb-85 6'1 190 G L
2 BROWN, David Notre Dame CCHA 11-Feb-85 6'0 185 G L
3 LUKER, Bryce Michigan Tech WCHA 25-Mar-85 6'3 190 G L
4 HARTLEY, Steve Miami-Ohio CCHA 15-Oct-85 6'1 190 G L
5 VICARI, Dominic Michigan State CCHA 30-Oct-84 5'9 1/2 184 G L







2003-04 NHL Central Scouting "Preliminary Ranking" - US Colleges - Nov. '03
cont'd


"LIMITED VIEWING" Team League Birthdate HT WT POS SHOT
ALEXIOU, Michael Merrimack H-East 10-Sep-85 6'2 210 LW L
BRUNKHORST, John Colorado College WCHA 9-Feb-85 6'1 195 C R
CORBIN, J.D. Denver WCHA 23-Mar-85 5'10 185 C/W L
EIZENMAN, Oren Rensselaer ECAC 27-Mar-85 6'0 175 C L
JARVIS, Rob Dartmouth ECAC 26-Jan-85 6'2 190 D L
KOLANOS, Mark New Hampshire H-East 15-Oct-84 6'1 185 RW R
LEWIS, Grant Dartmouth ECAC 20-Jan-85 6'3 190 D R
MAKI, Ryan Harvard ECAC 23-Apr-85 6'2 193 RW R
MAHRLE, Ryan W. Michigan CCHA 8-Feb-85 5'11 175 D R
MCGREGOR, Bryan Minn-Duluth WCHA 27-Jun-84 5'11 192 C R
MURRAY, Chris New Hampshire H-East 26-Dec-84 6'1 180 D R
SALCIDO, Brian Colorado College WCHA 14-Apr-85 6'1 185 D L
SELDEN, Bobby Northern Michigan CCHA 30-Jan-85 6'1 198 D L
SZCZECHURA, Paul W. Michigan CCHA 30-Nov-85 5'11 175 C R
THAUWALD, Scott Colorado College WCHA 26-Oct-84 5'11 185 LW L
Goaltenders Team League Birthdate HT WT POS SHOT
SAMUEL, Sean Dartmouth ECAC 24-Feb-85 6'1 190 G L

Funkymoses 11-24-2003 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre Larondelle
2003-04 NHL Central Scouting "Preliminary Ranking" - US Colleges - Nov. '03
Players Team League Birthdate HT WT POS SHOT
2 PINEAULT, Adam Boston College H-East 23-May-86 6'1 193 RW R
3 O'NEILL, Wes Notre Dame CCHA 3-Mar-86 6'4 200 D L
4 THELEN, A.J. Michigan State CCHA 11-Mar-86 6'3 205 D L
10 SIGALET, Jonathan Bowling Green CCHA 12-Feb-86 6'1 170 D L

For the record, these guys will lose their eligibility if they choose to enter this year's draft.

Oilers Chick 11-24-2003 09:58 PM

Thanks Pierre!
 
...for posting this.

Wow, I've already seen about half of the players on the list in action. I'll be sure to to keep an eye out for the ones I haven't seen yet.

Zoran Manojlovic 11-25-2003 12:54 AM

Is he (STAFFORD, Drew) that good?

Schlep Rock 11-25-2003 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HabzIsLife
I think Drew is playing with Parise...

He is

Holly Gunning 11-25-2003 05:01 AM

And yes the Steve Hartley on there is Bob's son.

West 11-25-2003 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funkymoses
For the record, these guys will lose their eligibility if they choose to enter this year's draft.

Someone told me Drew Stafford would lose his eligibility if he entered this year. Did you just miss him or was I misinformed.

Thanks

cagney 11-25-2003 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schlep Rock
He is

Actually, Parise plays on a line with Brandon Bochenski and Brady Murray. IIRC, when I saw North Dakota play Stafford was playing with David Lundbohm and Quinn Fylling.

cagney 11-25-2003 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by West
Someone told me Drew Stafford would lose his eligibility if he entered this year. Did you just miss him or was I misinformed.

Thanks

That's true. He's a late '85 birthdate just like Hensick so he'll lose his college eligibility.

Pierre Larondelle 11-25-2003 07:49 AM

Opt-ins
 
That is correct that players like Stafford, Pineault, Thelan, O' Neil, Sigalet, etc... (late 85s + reg. 86s) would lose their eligibility if they opt-in. However, two factors are at work. Some NCAA coaches are trying to get emergency legislation passed to let these guys enter the Draft. Also, it is widely regarded as a weak Draft and these players would have a very good chance of being drafted in the first round.

jake1 11-25-2003 07:57 AM

Stafford has played with a bunch of different players, as the only line that has stayed intact from game to game has been Parise-Murray-Bochenski. He has spent basically zero time on the ice with Parise this year.

The main knock on Stafford last year was that he wasn't as good as his SSM teammate Sidney Crosby. People are learning that there's no shame in being a notch below Crosby, and Stafford's pretty good in his own right.

He's big, not afraid to go into the corners, likes to check, and has nice hands. He has a burst of speed with the puck that reminds me of Vanek. Otherwise he's not very much like Vanek - doesn't have his sick puck skills and no one will accuse Stafford of dogging it.

Bluenote13 11-25-2003 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonMacIsaac
AJ Thelen is going to be a great dmen, loads of size and offensive ability, averaging over a ppg in his first year of college.

Bingo! I agree, he's going to be a good one, although i've seen him play twice. ;)

If the Ranger's take a D-man, he's a good bet to be their pick. Ok, i've just got a hunch, don't crucify :p

DR. Holiday 11-25-2003 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre Larondelle
That is correct that players like Stafford, Pineault, Thelan, O' Neil, Sigalet, etc... (late 85s + reg. 86s) would lose their eligibility if they opt-in. However, two factors are at work. Some NCAA coaches are trying to get emergency legislation passed to let these guys enter the Draft. Also, it is widely regarded as a weak Draft and these players would have a very good chance of being drafted in the first round.

This will likely have a huge effect on who teams like the Capitals draft I am betting. It just makes a weak year weaker. We just need to get CP back and we're all set.

Oilers Chick 11-25-2003 08:28 AM

I have to agree with everyone's assessment of Stafford. He's been terrific thus far with UND. Like cagney, I also saw him playing with Fylling and Lundbohm.

I'm gonna throw in my selection for player-to-watch from this list. He's defenceman Jeff Likens out of Wisconsin. I can't say enough great things about this kid. Great skater, terrific hands with superb passing ability and reads plays very well. The knock on Likens however is his size (5'11/175).

Bluenote13 11-25-2003 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oilers Chick
I have to agree with everyone's assessment of Stafford. He's been terrific thus far with UND. Like cagney, I also saw him playing with Fylling and Lundbohm.

I'm gonna throw in my selection for player-to-watch from this list. He's defenceman Jeff Likens out of Wisconsin. I can't say enough great things about this kid. Great skater, terrific hands with superb passing ability and reads plays very well. The knock on Likens however is his size (5'11/175).

Hey OC, whats your impression of Wes O'neil?

Schlep Rock 11-25-2003 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cagney
Actually, Parise plays on a line with Brandon Bochenski and Brady Murray. IIRC, when I saw North Dakota play Stafford was playing with David Lundbohm and Quinn Fylling.

The reports I've been given note Stafford and Parise on the ice together. Not every shift but at times.

Are they playing the PP or PK together or something?

Oilers Chick 11-25-2003 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluenote13
Hey OC, whats your impression of Wes O'neil?

Bluenote, I haven't seen him yet.

leafaholix* 11-25-2003 09:02 AM

Brian Ihnacak (Brown) is the son of former Leaf Peter Ihnacak.

http://brownbears.ocsn.com/sports/m-...k_brian00.html

jake1 11-25-2003 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schlep Rock
The reports I've been given note Stafford and Parise on the ice together. Not every shift but at times.

Are they playing the PP or PK together or something?

No. Parise kills penalties with Bochenski. Stafford hasn't played any PK.

4x4 Parise is usually with Bochenski. Stafford has had a few 4x4 shifts with other players.

Parise's line is the first PP unit and Stafford has had a little time on the second unit.

Maybe they've played together for a few seconds during line changes...

NYR469 11-25-2003 10:08 AM

is mark heatley, dany heatley's brother??

Oilers Chick 11-25-2003 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYR469
is mark heatley, dany heatley's brother??

Yes. I've seen Mark play. He's not bad but not nearly as skilled as his brother though.

Funkymoses 11-25-2003 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre Larondelle
Also, it is widely regarded as a weak Draft and these players would have a very good chance of being drafted in the first round.

I don't think anyone was making statements that those players will or won't be in the draft, just pointing out that there's a good possibility that they won't.

Hossa 11-25-2003 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oilers Chick
Bluenote, I haven't seen him yet.

Have you seen Robbie Earl by any chance? He also plays for Wisconsin.

NYR1084 11-25-2003 12:13 PM

Hey guys


Keep an eye on Birnstill and Schaeffer. I played with both of them on Long Island. They are exceptional hockey players. Big, like to throw the weight, and good hands.

Take care

Kev

Erack82 11-25-2003 08:28 PM

Quote:

AJ Thelen is going to be a great dmen, loads of size and offensive ability, averaging over a ppg in his first year of college.
The youngest guy on a stacked MSU team. He gets tons of icetime as a 86', not bad at all, gets used in all game situations and is probably one of the best defencemen MSU has right now. He is prone to taking some shifts off, but when he turns it on watch out. Canon of a shot, knows how to QB the powerplay, plays physical. He should be a good one.


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