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big_habs_fan 12-07-2006 09:18 AM

Has Nonis made an offer?
 
According to this story on Spectors he has.

http://spectorshockey.net/

Would you guys do it?

ChuckyToGally 12-07-2006 09:27 AM

I guess it would depend who is the player but since Morrison is really overpaid, I don't think I would touch to that deal. Salo is an interesting option but I still prefer Souray.

Pass.

Habitants 12-07-2006 09:29 AM

no

i dont want morisonn, i dont think he is wht this team needs
although i like salo, he seems to get injured too much. so i am not interested in dealing with vancouver...

ppil 12-07-2006 09:31 AM

If it's Souray + Sammy, I would do it. Salo is a great dman at 1.5M.
But I think the winger is more likely Perez or Johson since Salo+Morrison=4.7M
Souray+Sammy=5.8M

And Vancouver are at 43.6M
Maybe they could take it at this point because they wouldn't have to pay the full salary but they wouldn't be in position to replace Morrison as a 2nd line center.

hototogisu 12-07-2006 09:37 AM

Ehh...the only trade I want the Habs to make at this point is for a second-line center, which is our most immediate problem. We can always see where we're at when the trade deadline rolls around and then try to get something in return for our UFA d-men.

But the only center Vancouver has that I (or anybody else) is interested in probably isn't going places anytime soon.

Brett38 12-07-2006 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Habitants (Post 7285083)
no

i dont want morisonn, i dont think he is wht this team needs
although i like salo, he seems to get injured too much. so i am not interested in dealing with vancouver...


I'm with you on this one!

We don't want him.

tinyzombies 12-07-2006 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ppil (Post 7285097)
If it's Souray + Sammy, I would do it. Salo is a great dman at 1.5M.
But I think the winger is more likely Perez or Johson since Salo+Morrison=4.7M
Souray+Sammy=5.8M

And Vancouver are at 43.6M
Maybe they could take it at this point because they wouldn't have to pay the full salary but they wouldn't be in position to replace Morrison as a 2nd line center.

Perez has been great this year, no way does Gainey trade him. The kid is coming along.

I don't want Salo or Morrison for Souray. Maybe a lesser deal for either one though.

Rivet for Salo I wouldn't mind.

Ryan O'Byrne 12-07-2006 10:49 AM

I thought Salo was injured at the moment:dunno:

PeteLaframboise 12-07-2006 10:51 AM

According to them, the 'nucks will want a center for the 2nd player, so I have to believe it would be Plekanec.

Souray/Plekanec for Morrison/Salo

I have to admit that I'm not a big Pleks fan, don't think he's in the teams future, and we'll probably loose Souray at the end of the season. So it's a nice way to fill our holes without hurting our depth.

White Snake* 12-07-2006 11:16 AM

Salo for Rivet................Where do we sign? That would be the steal of the century.

Blind Gardien 12-07-2006 11:27 AM

In order for it to work for us cap-wise, we'd have to give up a bigger salary than Plekanec's. So it's technically infeasible, even as it is simultaneously completely undesirable for us. We're already saddled with Samsonov's 2-year deal which will haunt us over the summer. Why on earth would we want to additionally saddle ourselves with an equally underperforming Morrison's contract, which also carries over to next year? If it was swapping Samsonov for Morrison, well, okay, at least it's a center, but it doesn't do anythig for us down the road.

But apart from that, the defense side of it would just be attrocious. Salo isn't any better than Souray, he's injury prone, he's an impending free agent this summer too, why on earth would we make that exchange? Clearly impossible.

DicAnns 12-07-2006 11:30 AM

Salo<=>Souray
Salo is also a UFA so I don't see how we improve with this, though i think Salo is usually underrated.

Morrison<=>top 6 forward
it would have to be Kovy or Sammy, otherwise we take too much of a cap hit.
Is Morrison better than Kovy or Sammy skillwise? no way.
Maybe Gainey has had it with Kovy's attitude and Samsonov's under-performing though. Morrison seems to be a nice team guy, and we'd get a natural center.

Squeaky 12-07-2006 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blind Gardien (Post 7285949)
In order for it to work for us cap-wise, we'd have to give up a bigger salary than Plekanec's. So it's technically infeasible, even as it is simultaneously completely undesirable for us. We're already saddled with Samsonov's 2-year deal which will haunt us over the summer. Why on earth would we want to additionally saddle ourselves with an equally underperforming Morrison's contract, which also carries over to next year? If it was swapping Samsonov for Morrison, well, okay, at least it's a center, but it doesn't do anythig for us down the road.

But apart from that, the defense side of it would just be attrocious. Salo isn't any better than Souray, he's injury prone, he's an impending free agent this summer too, why on earth would we make that exchange? Clearly impossible.

While I agree with you that the trade wouldn't make sense for the habs at all, we could make room for a little extra payroll pretty easily, just by getting rid of Niinimaa.

sheed36 12-07-2006 11:39 AM

Just read the article and it really makes no sense to me.It said it would be a good deal for Van because Salo is in the last year of his contract and due for a big raise.Last time I checked Souray is also in his last year and will get a huge raise so like Blind Gardien said why trade Souray for the injury prone Salo who would not improve us much.And why would the Habs want a overpaid Morrison who isn't producing in Van.We already have Samsonov who is in the same boat.Nothing about that trade makes sense and will not improve the Habs.The Habs and Van are really not good trading partners.The only players on Van I would be interested in are not going anywhere in the near future.Morrison for Samsonov maybe but I doubt Gainey trades Souray for another UFA defenseman who is no better.

Evil Ted 12-07-2006 11:40 AM

If we are going to make the playoffs or are even close we wont dump souray, hes more important to our team then the draft pick or young prospect we would get in return, hes huge for us in so many differnt ways.

znk 12-07-2006 11:46 AM

I really like Salo.

sheed36 12-07-2006 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squeaky (Post 7286026)
While I agree with you that the trade wouldn't make sense for the habs at all, we could make room for a little extra payroll pretty easily, just by getting rid of Niinimaa.


The spector article said the deal would free up cap space for the Canucks so Samsonov won't be going to Vancouver.It will be either Plekanec or Perezhogin with Souray and I want no part of trading Perezhogin right now.

westcoast habsfan 12-07-2006 11:48 AM

Forget dealing Souray. I think Spector was right on when he said Habs won't deal him unless they go into a death spiral. On the other hand, Sammy/Pleks for Morrison/draft pick or cooke? is a better deal. Sammy and Morrison both have $3 m-plus contracts running through to next year. Pleks gives Vanc. the centre they lose in Morrison, while cooke gives us a 4th line agitator who we can stick with Begin.

Lats-Koivu-Ryder
Higgins-Morrison-Kovy
Perez-Bonk-Johnson
Streit-Begin-Cooke

westcoast habsfan 12-07-2006 11:54 AM

By the way, I think the west coast news people are just dreaming in technicolour. When I was living out west (I'm in T.O now) there were 3 million trade rumours about Souray coming out there. Some real crazy ones too. They seem to have a real hard on for Souray.

That trade rumour only helps one team - Vanc. If we get Morrison they have to take Sammy. And, Perez ain't going anywhere.

Brett38 12-07-2006 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheed36 (Post 7286066)
Just read the article and it really makes no sense to me.It said it would be a good deal for Van because Salo is in the last year of his contract and due for a big raise.Last time I checked Souray is also in his last year and will get a huge raise so like Blind Gardien said why trade Souray for the injury prone Salo who would not improve us much.And why would the Habs want a overpaid Morrison who isn't producing in Van.We already have Samsonov who is in the same boat.Nothing about that trade makes sense and will not improve the Habs.The Habs and Van are really not good trading partners.The only players on Van I would be interested in are not going anywhere in the near future.Morrison for Samsonov maybe but I doubt Gainey trades Souray for another UFA defenseman who is no better.

Right on!!

I agree with this fellow Neuf!! :clap:

BLNY 12-07-2006 12:00 PM

Not even luke warm interest. Salo, while talented, is as injury prone as they get. He brings a good all around game, but he just doesn't play enough games. I gather from the article he's at least an RFA. Why trade one FA defenceman for another (even if Salo is an RFA) when we have the better of the two? Morrison is overpaid and under-talented. I really believe he's made his name off of Naslund and Bertuzzi. I might be interested if he were making Ribeiro-like money, but he's making nearly twice that. No thanks.

Bryzga lol* 12-07-2006 01:15 PM

Sourray+Samsonov for Salo+Morrison?

SURE!!!!

Sourray+anyone else on the 2nd or 3rd line? No. Possibly Ryder, but I doubt it.

Are Morrison and Salo UFA this offseason?

Habsfan18 12-07-2006 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riel (Post 7287073)
Sourray+Samsonov for Salo+Morrison?

SURE!!!!

Sourray+anyone else on the 2nd or 3rd line? No. Possibly Ryder, but I doubt it.

Are Morrison and Salo UFA this offseason?

I know Salo is, not sure about Morrison.

Pax Macioretty 12-07-2006 01:56 PM

i'm officialy strating an anti-Morrison campain, that would be the worst trade ever for the Habs, he's overrated to the core, his only good years was when he was playing 2 all-star players, he's marginal in all 3 zones, and he's making 3.2 mil witch means bye bye to atleast 1 defensmen and 1 prospect, either Kosty or Grabo, i can't believe some people are actually hoping we get that guy:banghead:

Squeaky 12-07-2006 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheed36 (Post 7286155)
The spector article said the deal would free up cap space for the Canucks so Samsonov won't be going to Vancouver.It will be either Plekanec or Perezhogin with Souray and I want no part of trading Perezhogin right now.

Uh......k. What's that got to do with Niinimaa?


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