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barrytrotzsneck 11-30-2003 04:40 PM

NHL announces that no current players will play for Canada in WJC
 
Fleury, Horton, Bouchard, Burns...all ruled out.
just announced during the Oilers\Sharks game.
a shame, primarily Fleury's inability to play, but i guess i understand.

Big McLargehuge 11-30-2003 04:53 PM

Well Fleury wasn't going to happen since he'd be gone for over a month. Hard for the Pens to allow that with their starting goalie and only drawing card...

Oiler94 11-30-2003 04:56 PM

This gives a huge disadvantage to only Canada.

barrytrotzsneck 11-30-2003 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Oiler94
This gives a huge disadvantage to only Canada.

i wonder if brown will be allowed to play for the USA.

Disco Volante 11-30-2003 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Oiler94
This gives a huge disadvantage to only Canada.

Aren't Fritsche and Brown vital parts of the american team? Why would it be "only to Canada"?

barrytrotzsneck 11-30-2003 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoHolocaust
Aren't Fritsche and Brown vital parts of the american team? Why would it be "only to Canada"?


it might not be, but as this game is on sportsnet, they might have only mentioned the part that was pertinent to canada.

Disco Volante 11-30-2003 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nomorekids
it might not be, but as this game is on sportsnet, they might have only mentioned the part that was pertinent to canada.

I believe they did, there is no way they could justify a ruled-out of canadian players only.

Johnny 11-30-2003 05:19 PM

Full story

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/artic...30_154148_3856

Epsilon 11-30-2003 05:23 PM

Horton was the only guy I would have expected to go at this point. There's no way once his pro contract kicked in that the Pens would be sending Fleury. Other guys like Staal and Bergeron were possibilities earlier in the year but have become key players for their teams. In some ways I would say this is more likely to hurt the US team than the Canada team, since more of their players are "bubble NHLers" at this point and hence more likely to get released.

Rabid Ranger 11-30-2003 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Epsilon
Horton was the only guy I would have expected to go at this point. There's no way once his pro contract kicked in that the Pens would be sending Fleury. Other guys like Staal and Bergeron were possibilities earlier in the year but have become key players for their teams. In some ways I would say this is more likely to hurt the US team than the Canada team, since more of their players are "bubble NHLers" at this point and hence more likely to get released.


I don't follow. The article referenced mentioned only Canadian interests. The U.S. team in general, or players in particular weren't referenced. As a matter-of-fact it's likely players like Brown, Fritsche, and Kesler will be released by their respective NHL teams if they want to go.

barrytrotzsneck 11-30-2003 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabid Ranger
I don't follow. The article referenced mentioned only Canadian interests. The U.S. team in general, or players in particular weren't referenced. As a matter-of-fact it's likely players like Brown, Fritsche, and Kesler will be released by their respective NHL teams if they want to go.

fritsche and kesler play on the fourth line, and i think that with stumpel healthy again, brown will also be on LA's fourth line.

Fish on The Sand 11-30-2003 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rabid Ranger
I don't follow. The article referenced mentioned only Canadian interests. The U.S. team in general, or players in particular weren't referenced. As a matter-of-fact it's likely players like Brown, Fritsche, and Kesler will be released by their respective NHL teams if they want to go.

Of course it only mentioned canadian interests, its sportsnet.

Rabid Ranger 11-30-2003 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish on The Sand
Of course it only mentioned canadian interests, its sportsnet.


Are you serious!?!?!?! A Canada-centric media outlet? What has this world come to?!?!?! Isolationist snobs! Get your head out of the sand, there's a great big world out there!!

The Big P 11-30-2003 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nomorekids
Fleury, Horton, Bouchard, Burns...all ruled out.
just announced during the Oilers\Sharks game.
a shame, primarily Fleury's inability to play, but i guess i understand.

These players were not stopped by the league, each respective team declined to send the canadian players to the tournament. The Gm's for Brown and Fritsche have not officially made up their minds yet

L3DZ3P 11-30-2003 05:56 PM

**** Canada lose Patrice Bergeron (Boston), Brent Burns (Minnesota), Nathan Horton (Florida), Pierre Marc-Bouchard (Minnesota), Rick Nash (Columbus) and Eric Staal (Carolina)Damn that hurt Canada chance.

Johnny 11-30-2003 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Big P
each respective team declined to send the canadian players to the tournament.

Really, do you have confirmation of this. As far as I could tell, the only thing that is official as of now, is that these players will not be on the training camp roster that will be announced Dec 1st. The deadline is not until Dec 11nth (the day the camp begins I believe) still leaving the possiblity that someone could be released and added to the training camp roster.

Epsilon 11-30-2003 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by L3DZ3P
**** Canada lose Patrice Bergeron (Boston), Brent Burns (Minnesota), Nathan Horton (Florida), Pierre Marc-Bouchard (Minnesota), Rick Nash (Columbus) and Eric Staal (Carolina)Damn that hurt Canada chance.

Don't think for a second that Rick Nash going was anything more than a few people's pipe dream. That would be roughly the same as Atlanta having sent Kovalchuk last year, which obviously didn't happen.

Peter Griffin 11-30-2003 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by L3DZ3P
**** Canada lose Patrice Bergeron (Boston), Brent Burns (Minnesota), Nathan Horton (Florida), Pierre Marc-Bouchard (Minnesota), Rick Nash (Columbus) and Eric Staal (Carolina)Damn that hurt Canada chance.

And perhaps the biggest possible loss is Marc-Andre Fleury.

I think Pittsburgh would be better off to let Fleury attend the tournament. His play has dropped off considerably since the start of the season, why not let him play against guys his own age, dominate at the tournament and get a boost of confidence? It's not like Pittsburgh has a chance of winning anyway.

Big McLargehuge 11-30-2003 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Griffin
And perhaps the biggest possible loss is Marc-Andre Fleury.

I think Pittsburgh would be better off to let Fleury attend the tournament. His play has dropped off considerably since the start of the season, why not let him play against guys his own age, dominate at the tournament and get a boost of confidence? It's not like Pittsburgh has a chance of winning anyway.

He struggled for a bit but his game is back, he's been great the past few games.

Epsilon 11-30-2003 06:16 PM

It's not like Fleury has anything to prove at WJCs anyway. He was the best player there last year and he's not going to take much away from going again.

Peter Griffin 11-30-2003 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by phantompenguin
He struggled for a bit but his game is back, he's been great the past few games.

Really? His last couple games have yielded his lowest save % numbers of the season, which are still very, good. I guess I just feel that it wouldn't hurt him to get some more big game experience like a tournament of that calibre would provide. I mean, he's not losing anything by being out of the NHL for a couple weeks...


On a side note, I think Fleury is one of few goalies that can have 5 or 6 goals scored on him during a game and still have a save % of above .920 for that game. Amazing how many shots this kid faced a night, and he's hardly even fazed by it.

Tricolore#20 11-30-2003 07:31 PM

I read somewhere that there is still a chance Fleury will go, and that the Pens may send him. They have to decide by the 11th though. So I dont think he has been ruled out yet.

Without Fleury, who does Canada have...? Cam Ward, JD Deslauriers?

stardog 12-03-2003 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Epsilon
Don't think for a second that Rick Nash going was anything more than a few people's pipe dream. That would be roughly the same as Atlanta having sent Kovalchuk last year, which obviously didn't happen.

Or Staal and Bouchard for that matter.

Burke's Evil Spirit 12-03-2003 09:34 AM

Los Angeles has said Dustin Brown won't go. Brian Burke has said Ryan Kesler will only go if he's in Manitoba, not while he's with the big club.

barrytrotzsneck 12-03-2003 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Burke's Evil Spirit
Los Angeles has said Dustin Brown won't go. Brian Burke has said Ryan Kesler will only go if he's in Manitoba, not while he's with the big club.


wow, that's quite a bit different from what OTHER people are saying these guys have said.


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