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traderjake* 12-28-2006 10:53 AM

Sign Brian Leetch! (merged)
 
Our defense is terrible.
We have no point on the powerplay.
Look at Schneider in Detroit who is the same age as Leetch.
Was Schneider ever a better player than Leetch?
Leetch is not too old to be a benefit ti this team.
He would be very motivated coming back to NY.
Sign him for 1/2 a season for cash and give up no talent.
I am not saying that this is the answer to the defensive problems - just a part of the answer until other changes can be made.

Ronnie Bass 12-28-2006 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by traderjake (Post 7479978)
Look at Schneider in Detroit who is the same age as Leetch.
Was Schneider ever a better player than Leetch?

In both their primes Schneider was never the player Leetch was, but now he is the better player, Schneider has aged better as a hockey player than Leetch has, that's the simple truth.

traderjake* 12-28-2006 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lou is God (Post 7480145)
In both their primes Schneider was never the player Leetch was, but now he is the better player, Schneider has aged better as a hockey player than Leetch has, that's the simple truth.

OK - that could be true - I think it's worth a shot.

RangerBoy 12-28-2006 11:41 AM

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Leetch WILL NOT play for any team other than the Rangers. And it is growing less and less likely that he'll play at all this season.

Both proud and modest, he does not consider himself close to NHL game shape right now and has long dreaded the notion of being a shell of his former self in a Rangers uniform on Garden ice. That DOES NOT mean he is willing to be a shell of his former self in somebody else's uniform in some other locale.

It just explains why he hasn't signed with the Rangers. Sadly, from my perspective, we might have seen the last of No. 2 as an active player. Without question, we've seen the last of him playing in anybody else's colors
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http://blogs.nydailynews.com/rangers.../12/post_4.php

Case closed

HockeyBasedNYC 12-28-2006 11:55 AM

RangerBoy coming up big again.

You are the link KING. :teach:

RangerBoy 12-28-2006 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HockeyBasedNYC (Post 7480394)
RangerBoy coming up big again.

You are the link KING. :teach:

NO I just read it on Dellapina's blog a couple of days ago and if any writer should know what Leetch is doing these days and what his mindset is like,it's Dellapina

Brian is finished as a hockey player.He didn't play anywhere in 2004-05 during the lockout.Missed most of 2005-06 w/injuries.Isn't playing this season.What are the chances of Leetch playing next season after playing 1/2 a season in three years?Very unlikely if not 0%

True Blue Bleed Blue 12-28-2006 12:05 PM

I don't think he would help much at all...but at this point...simply because he is a Ranger and will always be...and is jobless...I would do it. He is better than Malik, Ozo...bring the guy in...and then he'll find a front office job next year

EventHorizon 12-28-2006 12:05 PM

The only thing I want to see Leetch on the Garden ice for is his number retirement ceremony.

traderjake* 12-28-2006 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RangerBoy (Post 7480455)
NO I just read it on Dellapina's blog a couple of days ago and if any writer should know what Leetch is doing these days and what his mindset is like,it's Dellapina

Brian is finished as a hockey player.He didn't play anywhere in 2004-05 during the lockout.Missed most of 2005-06 w/injuries.Isn't playing this season.What are the chances of Leetch playing next season after playing 1/2 a season in three years?Very unlikely if not 0%

Good point - I didn't know that.
I thought he was in great shape waiting.
Oh well.

HockeyBasedNYC 12-28-2006 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RangerBoy (Post 7480455)
NO I just read it on Dellapina's blog a couple of days ago and if any writer should know what Leetch is doing these days and what his mindset is like,it's Dellapina

Brian is finished as a hockey player.He didn't play anywhere in 2004-05 during the lockout.Missed most of 2005-06 w/injuries.Isn't playing this season.What are the chances of Leetch playing next season after playing 1/2 a season in three years?Very unlikely if not 0%

Yeah Dellapina is def. the best source out of all the beat bloggers, though i kinda like Sam's a little more than everyone else because he has a little fun with it.

danroy33 12-28-2006 12:36 PM

At the same time, Leetch is a classy guy and if he weren't going to play, why would he string the Rangers along? If he were to retire, wouldn't he have just done it already? I don't disagree that he is past his prime, but I agree that our despicable excuse for a power play and penalty kill can benefit from his experise. Also, if Leetch were not in the Rangers' plans, would they have waited half a season to make a move for a defenseman? Sather isn't a complete moron, he can analyze like any of us that defense is our biggest weakness. He had to know Rachunek and Ozolinsh were not going to be star defensemen. IMHO I think there is an agreement in place for Leetch to come back for half the season after the new year and that it has been in place for some time. Send Rachunek and/or Kaspar to Hartford and have Pock as the 7th defenseman. Or swing a deal with Malik or Rachunek involved.

crisb 12-28-2006 12:39 PM

I don't want to have him back, only because of his condition. Brian is smart, so I don't think he will ever play again.

SML 12-28-2006 01:14 PM

Again? Seriously? The past is the past. Brian Leetch is no answer for any problem we have here and sentimentality doesn't win games. The PP was awful when Leetch was last here as a Ranger. The problem with the PP is that NOBODY SHOOTS THE PUCK. Leetch was as guilty of the pass first, second, and third mentality as anybody. The team has got to get the puck on the net and start scoring some ugly goals. Otherwise, Leetch is not going to cut down on the goals against. The guy is not destitute, he's made alot of money over his lifetime. Dollar wise, for what it would take in order to make a guy like Leetch have to come play, he's not worth it. He made 4 million when he last played for the Bruins. Even at half that, he's not worth what he actually brings to the rink today.

Tuxman 12-28-2006 01:30 PM

please do not humiliate brian by signing him. i would hate to see one of the best rangers of all time getting boo'ed in the garden for being two steps slower. but then again, he'd probably get injured in the first game and be out for the remainder of the season with groin problems

JRGNYR 12-28-2006 01:36 PM

A Leetch thread again? :help:

He's not coming back, nor should he. The next time we see him in at MSG is to lift #2 to the rafters.

The end.

nyr2k2 12-28-2006 01:44 PM

Brian Leetch might may us slightly better now but does nothing for us long term. Let's think past tomorrow, guys.

Besides, there are no indications that Leetch is game ready, and I wouldn't want him to embarrass himself. Also, I don't want the team to embarrass him any further.

cringer 12-28-2006 02:17 PM

I don't think Leetch has any interest in playing for the Rangers. At least I've not heard anything substantial proving this.

To the contrary, I've heard that he would never return to the Rangers as long as Glen Sather was still around, but that's hearsay.

And as for his impact on this current Ranger team, I don't think it would be much. I'm as big a Leetch fan as anybody - but sorry to say he's well well beyond his prime.

If he does return to the NHL (on any team) he'll probably get hurt because that team will be seeking 26-28 minutes a game from Leetch and he does not have that left in his tank. That's more or less what happened in Boston.

brynulf 12-28-2006 03:28 PM

Leetch
 
Could not hurt... defense as is sucks... none of these clowns are playing to last seasons level. Watching Malik and the other orange cones like Rosie hurts. On the O throw out Hossa he really sucks... Sather must think it is the other Hossa allowing Renney to give him ice time.

THEHOCKEYBLOG.THE-SHORELINE.COM

HockeyBasedNYC 12-28-2006 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by brynulf (Post 7482380)
Could not hurt... defense as is sucks... none of these clowns are playing to last seasons level. Watching Malik and the other orange cones like Rosie hurts. On the O throw out Hossa he really sucks... Sather must think it is the other Hossa allowing Renney to give him ice time.

THEHOCKEYBLOG.THE-SHORELINE.COM

The Defense:

Roszival actually has been steady this year. I must reserve myself from beating him down like last year.

Malik on the other hand has been a horrid shadow of what was half decent last year.

Tyutin has been inconsistent at times but i think hes been the best defensman on the team, along with being the most damaging to oncoming forwards.

Wards played tough, has helped Tyutin with some little things, but needs to do a better job himself.

Rachunek is so ******* inconsistent, more bad then good.

Kaspar hasnt been great.

Pock hasnt played enough, has been out of sorts here and there but at least he gets the puck to the net.

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Is there a need for an out-of-shape, 38 year old - second tour of duty Leetch? No.

shoeshine5 12-28-2006 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SML (Post 7481085)
The problem with the PP is that NOBODY SHOOTS THE PUCK.

I feel exactly the same. They're too concerned with setting up perfect plays and passes. Since that isn't working for them, they need to get more shots on goal and just crash the net.

Although I sure the fans would love the idea of Leetch coming back to be a blueshirt, we would probably be pretty dissapointed. He isn't the one solution to the Rangers almost non-existant defense. I would just like to see him retire a Ranger.

shoothepuck 12-28-2006 04:17 PM

Can't wait for him to retire

VEGASRANGERFAN 12-28-2006 08:17 PM

Looking at it now, It wouldn't have been such a bad idea if we signed him at the beginning of the season, but halfway through? no thanks.

bar down* 01-14-2007 02:22 PM

Leetch
 
Any new news on him? or has he just retired?

Osminator 01-14-2007 03:16 PM

get outta here... Leetch... ha! who's next? Stemkowski? Maybe John Davidson backing up Lundqvist? Brad Park I heared goes skating once a week with his grandkids... he might be interested in a 8-year contract...

The Leetch thing is so sad... he was a force with great achievements 10 years ago... and not today...

MrAlfie 01-14-2007 04:06 PM

if leetch is in game shape id take a flyer on him, he cant be worse than malik.
sign him and then let him retire in ranger blue its not like we will win the stanley cup this year with that coach and the current roster. so leetch wouldnt do much damage. actually i think hed be a great mentor for our young d-men. i hope hell be some sort of defensive coordinator for us.


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