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ranold26 12-02-2003 07:07 AM

Rumour: Tarnstrom to Boston
 
http://www.spectorshockey.net/

Kruschiki 12-02-2003 07:42 AM

Maybe they'll take Delmore.

wasting time 12-02-2003 07:58 AM

This is just awful. Every single player of any market value is being shopped. Someone remember to turn the lights off.

neelynugs 12-02-2003 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jj@jj.com
Maybe they'll take Delmore.

you couldn't give him away

as for tarnstrom, i suppose he could fit in, but i'm not really a big fan of the guy. i'm guessing he'd cost us ivan huml, and even though i'm not much of a fan of huml, i don't know that dealing him for tarnstrom is the answer. i think poti is their target, but unless the rangers lower the asking price, it won't happen.

Wingboy2999 12-02-2003 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neelynugs
you couldn't give him away

as for tarnstrom, i suppose he could fit in, but i'm not really a big fan of the guy. i'm guessing he'd cost us ivan huml, and even though i'm not much of a fan of huml, i don't know that dealing him for tarnstrom is the answer. i think poti is their target, but unless the rangers lower the asking price, it won't happen.

I bet he would cost you close to nothing. Look at what Straka went for....

CapitalsCupFantasy 12-02-2003 08:52 AM

Maybe the Caps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wingboy2999
I bet he would cost you close to nothing. Look at what Straka went for....


Should pick up the friggen phone!

p.l.f. 12-02-2003 09:19 AM

isnt tarnstrom just another berard ?

i think you know what i mean :D

Reign Nateo 12-02-2003 09:26 AM

Makes sense if they don't want to give up the assets for Poti.

I would say that Tarnstrom could be had pretty cheaply. Probably for a pick, or a guy like Zdenek Kultak.

Burke's Evil Spirit 12-02-2003 09:30 AM

Quote:

Dupont ... wondered if the Pittsburgh Penguins might be willing to part with Dick Tarnstrom for a draft pick
That sounds like speculation to me. Hardly a rumour.

BruinFan42 12-02-2003 09:40 AM

With the Straka deal, I'm guessing Tarnstrom could be had for Kris Vernarsky and a 6th round pick....

Sorry, but the Penguins are absolutely pathetic. How the NHL allows them to pull off salary dump after salary dump is beyond me. The fans don't deserve it, the city doesn't deserve it, something should be done with this team right now. Mary-O should face the facts that there won't be a new arena any time soon, and even if there is, fans aren't going to come to watch a bunch of ECHL players and draft picks play a hockey game...

It's a really sad story....

Bruwinz37 12-02-2003 09:57 AM

If Tarnstrom could be had it would be for less than we would give for Poti so it sounds like a nice option.

Like another poster already said...more speculation than rumor.

Jon Burke 12-02-2003 09:58 AM

Personally I don't think that the Straka deal was THAT bad. Sure, they didn't get a whole lot for him, but there are a lot of players who are available right now and wouldn't cost a lot. Tons of teams are looking to dump salary with the CBA labor agreement looming and not a lot of players hold high trade value. I won't lie and say that the Straka deal was a great deal for the Penguins, but I don't think it was pathetic. Stars like Jagr, Kovalev and Bure have gotten little more than draft picks, prospects and fringe NHLers in return when they were moved. And Straka is not as good as them. So, I don't think the market for players like Straka is nearly as high as we think it is.

Reign Nateo 12-02-2003 10:18 AM

I didn't think the trade was that bad either until I saw the amount of money that the Pens picked up on the contract.

ukyo 12-02-2003 12:44 PM

Man, Tarnstrom gets no respect.

Has anyone else seen him play? He's quite a good power play quarterback, actually. He'd do a hell of a lot more damage on a unit with Thornton, Murray, and Rolston. Mario and the rest of the Pens had nothing but praise for him and glowed over his ability to put the puck on net on a man-advantage and get out a crisp, accurate outlet pass last season.

If the Bruins got him, he'd be lethal.

Rowsdower 12-02-2003 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruinFan42
With the Straka deal, I'm guessing Tarnstrom could be had for Kris Vernarsky and a 6th round pick....

Sorry, but the Penguins are absolutely pathetic. How the NHL allows them to pull off salary dump after salary dump is beyond me. The fans don't deserve it, the city doesn't deserve it, something should be done with this team right now. Mary-O should face the facts that there won't be a new arena any time soon, and even if there is, fans aren't going to come to watch a bunch of ECHL players and draft picks play a hockey game...

It's a really sad story....

You've got the wrong thread.....it's the one on the gamenight forum...
.....your ignorance should blend in nicely there.....

Marmax 12-02-2003 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wasting time
Someone remember to turn the lights off.

sorry but the Pen's lights responsable have already been traded for a couple of 25 cents

neelynugs 12-02-2003 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukyo
Man, Tarnstrom gets no respect.

Has anyone else seen him play? He's quite a good power play quarterback, actually. He'd do a hell of a lot more damage on a unit with Thornton, Murray, and Rolston. Mario and the rest of the Pens had nothing but praise for him and glowed over his ability to put the puck on net on a man-advantage and get out a crisp, accurate outlet pass last season.

If the Bruins got him, he'd be lethal.

well, you're right to an extent. tarnstrom is a pretty good offensive Dman for the PP. but he's also a pretty big liability in his own zone. we had a guy like that, and his name was bryan berard. the differences were - offensively, he skated much better and played a lunatic style, if you will. defensively, he made tarnstrom look like a norris trophy winner (not that bad, but you get my point). i feel like the b's need a guy who can rush the puck and run the PP, but he also must be capable in his own end. if we wanted a gambling puck rusher that needed a compass to find his own end, OC would've just signed berard.
i think sergei gonchar is that guy, but i don't see the bruins stepping up with the best offer out there. also, i'd be willing to bet that jacobs isn't knocking people over to add 5 million to the payroll.

stardog 12-02-2003 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruinFan42
With the Straka deal, I'm guessing Tarnstrom could be had for Kris Vernarsky and a 6th round pick....

Sorry, but the Penguins are absolutely pathetic. How the NHL allows them to pull off salary dump after salary dump is beyond me. The fans don't deserve it, the city doesn't deserve it, something should be done with this team right now. Mary-O should face the facts that there won't be a new arena any time soon, and even if there is, fans aren't going to come to watch a bunch of ECHL players and draft picks play a hockey game...

It's a really sad story....

As a Bruin fan did you find it embarassing that an ECHL team beat your team in OT? Without Mario? Just curious...


As for Tarnstrom he will command more than Straka did by a good deal. Straka was traded simply because of the 9 million due to him over the next two years. Tarnstrom makes a very affordable 1.1 mill. Personally I don't see him going anywhere but if he does it would take more than what the Kings got Straka for and more than what I see being offered here.

Rowsdower 12-02-2003 05:43 PM

Tarnstorm has been very good offensively (particularly on the PP), but has been horrific in his own end.....that said i could see Boston showing some interest, though I am not going to bother wagering what his worth is....one guy I think would be a nice addition to Pitts is Axelson (sp?), though I dont know how much money he makes.....we could use a defensive specialist in Pitts though, no doubt....

OlliMackBjugStud 12-02-2003 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stardog
As a Bruin fan did you find it embarassing that an ECHL team beat your team in OT? Without Mario? Just curious...


As for Tarnstrom he will command more than Straka did by a good deal. Straka was traded simply because of the 9 million due to him over the next two years. Tarnstrom makes a very affordable 1.1 mill. Personally I don't see him going anywhere but if he does it would take more than what the Kings got Straka for and more than what I see being offered here.

deja vue .. where have i heard this before .. how predictable.

dr

Jacob 12-02-2003 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmax
sorry but the Pen's lights responsable have already been traded for a couple of 25 cents

Jokes aren't very funny when they're in broken English. :(

stardog 12-02-2003 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DementedReality
deja vue .. where have i heard this before .. how predictable.

dr


Yet how true...

Magnus Fulgur 12-02-2003 07:17 PM

rumour
 
This is just speculation. Spector's piece is based SOLELY on Kevin Paul Dupont's speculation in the Boston Globe as to whom the Bruins could use as a power-play quarter-back.

Jon Burke 12-02-2003 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reign Nateo
I didn't think the trade was that bad either until I saw the amount of money that the Pens picked up on the contract.

Pens picked up part of his contract? :eek:

ukyo 12-02-2003 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neelynugs
well, you're right to an extent. tarnstrom is a pretty good offensive Dman for the PP. but he's also a pretty big liability in his own zone. we had a guy like that, and his name was bryan berard. the differences were - offensively, he skated much better and played a lunatic style, if you will. defensively, he made tarnstrom look like a norris trophy winner (not that bad, but you get my point). i feel like the b's need a guy who can rush the puck and run the PP, but he also must be capable in his own end. if we wanted a gambling puck rusher that needed a compass to find his own end, OC would've just signed berard.
i think sergei gonchar is that guy, but i don't see the bruins stepping up with the best offer out there. also, i'd be willing to bet that jacobs isn't knocking people over to add 5 million to the payroll.

Point taken about what the Bruins would rather have. But I think every team in the NHL could use a Gonchar.

Sure, he's not an elite defenseman that you're going to stick on the ice in all situations. I think he's no more horrific in his own end than your average offensive defenseman (think better than Sandis or Poti, not as good as Timonen, about how Boyle is). The fact that the kids don't backcheck certainly doesn't help his +/-.

Tarnstrom isn't a jump-deep-into-the-play kind of defenseman. His strengths are that he has a knack for getting the puck on net when he needs to (i.e., on the power play through traffic with a screen in front) and his outlet passing. The Bruins, with their more gritty crashing style, would likely benefit far more than the Pens in using his abilities.


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