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elphy101 12-03-2003 08:17 PM

Islanders team if not for Mike Milbury
 
I decided to take a look at the Islanders, just to see how bad Milbury's trading during his almost 10 year reign actually was. If the Islanders kept strickly their draft picks, this would be their team.


Bertuzzi Connolly Palffy
Torres Orzagh Dumont
Pyatt Green Rupp
Hlavac Weinhandl Bergenheim


Redden Chara
Brewer McCabe
Kaspairaitis Mezei
Lukowich Tarnstrom
Strudwick Lachance
Van Impe Martinek

Luongo
Dipietro
Tommy Salo

Using strickly Islanders draft picks, this is their team with no trades or UFA signings. What an amazing defense/goaltending group. If you add Jokinen for the #1 center job (a trade acquisition), plus Jason Spezza(pick was traded for Yashin), this team is an favorite for the cup.

Vyse64 12-03-2003 08:20 PM

McCabe was a Ottawa draft puick :teach:
he was traded for redden remember

elphy101 12-03-2003 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemskyFreak83
McCabe was a Ottawa draft puick :teach:
he was traded for redden remember

No that was Bryan Berard. Ottawa trade Berard to NYI for Redden.


The list is correct. It's pulled right off the Islanders draft list since 1991. With Travis Green thrown in from earlier.

Mizral 12-03-2003 08:40 PM

Some other interesting things of note:

If the Jokinen/Luongo move never happened, the Isles could more than likely have picked Heatley or Gaborik than DiPietro (since they would have kept Luongo).

Also, they traded a few picks. Jarkko Ruutu was also involved in the Bertuzzi trade, so you could include Ruutu in there.


Anyhow, if you say they drafted Heatley (whom was the guy Milbury said he had #2 in an interview some time ago that I read), you could have a top line of Bertuzzi/Heatley/Palffy (Heatley was a centre in the NCAA).

Also, didn't he draft Mariusz Czerkawski and Oleg Kvasha? I'm too lazy to look ;)

Vyse64 12-03-2003 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphy101
No that was Bryan Berard. Ottawa trade Berard to NYI for Redden.


The list is correct. It's pulled right off the Islanders draft list since 1991. With Travis Green thrown in from earlier.

oh yeah thanks heheh :blush:

thome_26 12-03-2003 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizral
Some other interesting things of note:

If the Jokinen/Luongo move never happened, the Isles could more than likely have picked Heatley or Gaborik than DiPietro (since they would have kept Luongo).

Also, they traded a few picks. Jarkko Ruutu was also involved in the Bertuzzi trade, so you could include Ruutu in there.


Anyhow, if you say they drafted Heatley (whom was the guy Milbury said he had #2 in an interview some time ago that I read), you could have a top line of Bertuzzi/Heatley/Palffy (Heatley was a centre in the NCAA).

Also, didn't he draft Mariusz Czerkawski and Oleg Kvasha? I'm too lazy to look ;)

Don't remember for sure, but I know that Mariusz was an Oiler before an Isles so no I don't think so. And Kvasha was part of the Luongo trade - another no. Quite the scouting staff they've got I'd say - pitty the scouting staff will never recieve big credit because of an absolute joke of a GM.

Vyse64 12-03-2003 09:15 PM

Czerkawski Selected by Boston Bruins round 5 #106 overall 1991 NHL Entry Draft

as for Kvasha Selected by Florida Panthers round 3 #65 overall 1996 NHL Entry Draft
he was the other part of loungo trade that went to the NYI

Jokinen was not a NYI pick but a LA draft choice 3rd overall in 97
"Olli was traded with Josh Green, Mathieu Biron and a first-round draft pick to the New York Islanders for Žigmund Pálffy, Bryan Smolinski, Marcel Cousineau and a fourth-round draft pick"

elphy101 12-03-2003 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mizral
Some other interesting things of note:

If the Jokinen/Luongo move never happened, the Isles could more than likely have picked Heatley or Gaborik than DiPietro (since they would have kept Luongo).

Also, they traded a few picks. Jarkko Ruutu was also involved in the Bertuzzi trade, so you could include Ruutu in there.


Anyhow, if you say they drafted Heatley (whom was the guy Milbury said he had #2 in an interview some time ago that I read), you could have a top line of Bertuzzi/Heatley/Palffy (Heatley was a centre in the NCAA).

Interesting, so if you take away Milbury's 2 major draft day deals, you could add

Jokinen Spezza Heatley to the list and all you would remove would be Dipietro.

Just as side note, this wasn't even a result of Salary dumps. That roster listed above would be cheaper than the roster of the current Islanders.

It's hard to believe Milbury still has a job. Especially taking into consideration the Jokinen, Spezza, Heatley part.

Funkymoses 12-04-2003 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elphy101
It's hard to believe Milbury still has a job. Especially taking into consideration the Jokinen, Spezza, Heatley part.

well, yes and no. It's hard to believe he still has HIS job, GM. He should be locked in a padded room and let out before the draft, though, I mean, damn.

kraigus 12-04-2003 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funkymoses
well, yes and no. It's hard to believe he still has HIS job, GM. He should be locked in a padded room and let out before the draft, though, I mean, damn.

Nope, he makes crazy draft-day deals too. Just let him draft from inside his room and let everybody else make the trades.

Master Lok 12-04-2003 12:05 PM

hehe, I wonder what draft pick does the Islanders get THIS year? MWAHAHAHAHA (evil laugh!) Hopefully Lowe has Mad Mike's cell phone preset on draft day.

Boondock Saint 12-04-2003 10:51 PM

That Luongo/Dipietro thing I will never understand. It was completely obvious at that time that Luongo was going to be a solid #1 goalie in this league and that he was closer than Dipietro was.

No matter how good MM thought Dipietro would end up, he would never have been so much better that Luongo that it was worth giving up a chance at Heatley or Gaborik for him.


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