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The Dopefish 01-31-2007 03:59 PM

What would the Flames look like if trading didn't exist, redux
 
Sort of copied and pasted from this thread the main discussion area.

This thread only got me started. I decided to dig into the Hockey Database and get the list of current players (as of Jan/30/07) and come up with this fantasy scenario: every player moved back to the team he played his first NHL game for. This particular thread is intended for the Calgary Flames.

The ultimate purpose of this will be to aid me in the creation of a roster patch for NHL07 for the PC. Realistically, we could all see which teams have benefited from free agency (i.e. those who have prospered by good trading and free agent decisions) and which teams have suffered from free agency (i.e. those teams who let go players who could help them today), but it's all obviously in the realm of fantasy.

Obviously, given the relative age of some teams, there are teams whose original player rosters are short-handed, and others are over-stocked and over-flowing with reserves. If I do ultimately make the lines you guys help me make into rosters for NHL07, those of you who know the EA NHL games know every team has a required number of players and then they have a group of reserves (no more than 5 players, I think it is). If a set of rosters can be set and there are players left over, these players will be placed in a sort of dispersal draft for the short-handed teams to pick from.

The beauty of this idea is that, no matter whether someone is traded over the course of the rest of the season, or waived, or whatever, in this idea they always belong to whatever team they played their first game for. So, really, the only people this idea really affects are the minor-league call-ups and undrafted free-agents, and they typically don't make much of an affect on a roster.

Here are all the players currently playing in the NHL that played their first NHL games with the Flames.

(12/12 forwards; 6/6 defensemen; 2/2 goaltenders required; 6/5 reserves)
C Steve Begin (from MTL)
C Matthew Lombardi (stay)
C Cory Stillman (from CAR)
C Blair Betts (from NYR)
L Jeff Cowan (from VAN)
L Gary Roberts (from FLA)
L Oleg Saprykin (from PHX)
R Chris Clark (from WSH)
R Jarome Iginla (stay)
R Chuck Kobasew (stay)
R David Moss (stay)
R Ronald Petrovicky (from PIT)
R Martin St. Louis (from TB)
D Joel Bouchard (from NYI)
D Denis Gauthier (from PHI)
D Mark Giordano (stay)
D Jordan Leopold (from COL)
D Toni Lydman (from BUF)
D Steve Montador (from FLA)
D Derek Morris (from PHX)
D Dion Phaneuf (stay)
D Richie Regehr (stay)
D Robyn Regehr (stay)
G Jean-Sebastien Giguere (from ANA)
G Dwayne Roloson (from EDM)
G Dany Sabourin (from VAN)

Suggested lines:

Roberts-Stillman-Iginla
Saprykin-Lombardi-St. Louis
Cowan-Begin-Kobasew
Petrovicky-Betts-Moss

Phaneuf-Leopold
Montador-Ro. Regehr
Bouchard-Morris

Giguere
Roloson

Reserves (pick 5): Giordano, Lydman, Ri. Regehr, Gauthier, Clark

To be dispersed (1): Sabourin

Roman Tanner 01-31-2007 04:35 PM

Interesting, but really, the title is deceiving.

If trading REALLY didn't exist, two of the biggest parts of this team wouldn't be here.

Iginla and Regehr

The Dopefish 01-31-2007 04:44 PM

I'm relying on the abilities of people to READ here, yes. :)

BadNewsBearcat 01-31-2007 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roman Tanner (Post 7862175)
Interesting, but really, the title is deceiving.

If trading REALLY didn't exist, two of the biggest parts of this team wouldn't be here.

Iginla and Regehr

Which is one of the reasons why I've always continued to root for Nieuwendyk and Fleury (despite his off ice problems). Even in their departures from the team, they were able to help us out quite substantially.

Even though Nieuwy did go on to win cups with Dallas and New Jersey. :sarcasm:

Lunatik* 01-31-2007 05:42 PM

we would have marty brodeur and teemue selanne as they were drafted with our draft picks :yo:

guzzy 01-31-2007 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lunatik (Post 7862784)
we would have marty brodeur and teemue selanne as they were drafted with our draft picks :yo:

not only that I believe we drafted Trevor Kidd in that first round, ahead of Brodeur....oooopppsss

Lunatik* 01-31-2007 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guzzy (Post 7862897)
not only that I believe we drafted Trevor Kidd in that first round, ahead of Brodeur....oooopppsss

we did... and we traded up to get him with New Jersey

natural420* 02-01-2007 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guzzy (Post 7862897)
not only that I believe we drafted Trevor Kidd in that first round, ahead of Brodeur....oooopppsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lunatik (Post 7865584)
we did... and we traded up to get him with New Jersey

:banghead: :dunce:

looooob 02-01-2007 03:41 PM

I'm not sure I understand how it all works, but I would think that Lydman, Clark and possibly Giordano should be in your starting lineup somehow


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