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Tuggy 02-03-2007 03:28 PM

Koivu and Kovalev
 
So when are these two guys gonna start earning their big paychecks? These guys are our two highest paid players and are suppose to be leaders. It's time for them to take this team by the collar and do something.

Bill McNeal 02-03-2007 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuggy (Post 7901321)
So when are these two guys gonna start earning their big paychecks? These guys are our two highest paid players and are suppose to be leaders. It's time for them to take this team by the collar and do something.

We'll hear the same thing we hear after every bad loss, how this team has to look itself in the mirror and start playing like it matters, bla bla bla, and they'll come out flat again.

This season is becoming a mirror image of last year. Start off hot, then back your way into the playoffs.

8baby* 02-03-2007 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuggy (Post 7901321)
So when are these two guys gonna start earning their big paychecks? These guys are our two highest paid players and are suppose to be leaders. It's time for them to take this team by the collar and do something.

You loved them vs Bruins in o4.Now you hate them,Get a:biglaugh:

Whitesnake 02-03-2007 03:39 PM

We're having hot and cold moments 'cause......we're just an average team. And to be average you need some great and some bad moments.....People will need to realize that.

Seriously, I really hope Rivet and Souray goes. Maybe if we don't have a "sure" goal with Souray on the PP they'll start working harder 5 on 5 and be a better team. Rivet doesn't bring anything that Côté, at a cheaper price, wouldn't bring. And there's tons of UFA's available that looks like Rivet and might not have the nerve to ask for 2.5 next summer....

8baby* 02-03-2007 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Albino (Post 7901441)
We'll hear the same thing we hear after every bad loss, how this team has to look itself in the mirror and start playing like it matters, bla bla bla, and they'll come out flat again.

This season is becoming a mirror image of last year. Start off hot, then back your way into the playoffs.

No what it is,the games matter more now and the real teams are showing themselves,out with the pretenders and in with the contenders.New rulesc only reason Scabs are even in the hunt to make playoffs and ewveryone of you boobirds know it:biglaugh: :biglaugh: :biglaugh:

Tuggy 02-03-2007 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitesnake (Post 7901517)
We're having hot and cold moments 'cause......we're just an average team. And to be average you need some great and some bad moments.....People will need to realize that.

I know we are not an elite team but I don't consider Koivu and Kovalev "average" players. But they sure are playing like it.

Ross MacLochness 02-03-2007 03:42 PM

We need a REAL star player.

I don't care if he's a center, a goal scorer, a playmaker... doesn't matter. It's so obvious now. How can we be a top team without a player in the top 40-50 scorers? I've had enough. Hockey is a team game but we need a star player so badly it's not even funny.

Bill McNeal 02-03-2007 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitesnake (Post 7901517)
We're having hot and cold moments 'cause......we're just an average team. And to be average you need some great and some bad moments.....People will need to realize that.

Seriously, I really hope Rivet and Souray goes. Maybe if we don't have a "sure" goal with Souray on the PP they'll start working harder 5 on 5 and be a better team. Rivet doesn't bring anything that Côté, at a cheaper price, wouldn't bring. And there's tons of UFA's available that looks like Rivet and might not have the nerve to ask for 2.5 next summer....

It's that we're an average team that pisses me off. Every time it looks like they took a step forward towards becoming a good team, they take a step back. Being in 7th-8th every year grows tiresome.

David_99 02-03-2007 03:43 PM

You can add Sammy to your list. Yes he got assists recently, but damn, I've never seen a player with so many moves standing in one place, right in front of the net and not get a shot off. It's almost like he waits til he is surrounded before he does anything. By then he gives it away.

Koivu is our leader and he will be back in form. Kovy and Sammy, I donno. I think they lost it. 4.5 + 3.5 million = 0 production. Those are terrible numbers. How can our rookies really do any worse? Free up 8 million and get an impact player with that money. If only it were that easy. I don't want to wait til the playoffs to see Kovy score a couple goals.

All I can say is thank god for Bonk, Johnson and Streit.

8baby* 02-03-2007 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Albino (Post 7901559)
It's that we're an average team that pisses me off. Every time it looks like they took a step forward towards becoming a good team, they take a step back. Being in 7th-8th every year grows tiresome.

not every year!missed playoffs a couple years:biglaugh:

Tricolore#20 02-03-2007 03:49 PM

I want to see Kovalev play with Koivu. The top two lines seem to have gotten stale, and unfortunately Higgins looks like a shadow of himself from the beginning of the year. Perhaps playing Kovalev Koivu and Latendresse will give this team a different look on the top line.

PockIsGoD 02-03-2007 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by David_99 (Post 7901575)
You can add Sammy to your list. Yes he got assists recently, but damn, I've never seen a player with so many moves standing in one place, right in front of the net and not get a shot off. It's almost like he waits til he is surrounded before he does anything. By then he gives it away.

Koivu is our leader and he will be back in form. Kovy and Sammy, I donno. I think they lost it. 4.5 + 3.5 million = 0 production. Those are terrible numbers. How can our rookies really do any worse? Free up 8 million and get an impact player with that money. If only it were that easy. I don't want to wait til the playoffs to see Kovy score a couple goals.

All I can say is thank god for Bonk, Johnson and Streit.

I'm not ready to give a free ride to Koivu. He needs to be the big man in the room and start kicking some furious butt, especially his two linemates. Kovalev, well, he always only play as goos as the rest of the team. On certain occasion he is gonna step up, but you always get that feeling like he could be so much more.

hototogisu 02-03-2007 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by David_99 (Post 7901575)
You can add Sammy to your list. Yes he got assists recently, but damn, I've never seen a player with so many moves standing in one place, right in front of the net and not get a shot off. It's almost like he waits til he is surrounded before he does anything. By then he gives it away.

Disagree, Samsonov is the only one of our top five forwards (him, Ryder, Koivu, Higgins, Kovalev) lately playing like he's trying to earn his salary. At least he's trying out there. The rest just look like zombies.

David_99 02-03-2007 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PockIsGoD (Post 7901682)
I'm not ready to give a free ride to Koivu. He needs to be the big man in the room and start kicking some furious butt, especially his two linemates. Kovalev, well, he always only play as goos as the rest of the team. On certain occasion he is gonna step up, but you always get that feeling like he could be so much more.

Koivu is only as good as his linemates. He's a playmaker. If neither Higgins nor Ryder can be in the right position and put the puck in the net, there's not much Koivu can do. Everybody always says how Kovy is a game braker and that's what he's paid for. Damn, I'd rather have another Lats who will play intense the whole game so we don't NEED a game braker. Put anyone else where Kovy is and he'll have more points and won't give up so much. Fancy plays and give-aways are all he seems to have left in the tank.

David_99 02-03-2007 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hototogisu (Post 7901695)
Disagree, Samsonov is the only one of our top five forwards (him, Ryder, Koivu, Higgins, Kovalev) lately playing like he's trying to earn his salary. At least he's trying out there. The rest just look like zombies.

He's the only one of them buzzing, yes, but if he doesn't shoot when he gets the chance, what good is he? He gets the chance to pass but decides to keep it and skate in a circle while the whole other teams gets back into position. He gets the puck, buzzes around in a circle til there's no more play.

YOUTH OF HABS 02-03-2007 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Slip Slidin' Slim (Post 7901564)
We need a REAL star player.

I don't care if he's a center, a goal scorer, a playmaker... doesn't matter. It's so obvious now. How can we be a top team without a player in the top 40-50 scorers? I've had enough. Hockey is a team game but we need a star player so badly it's not even funny.

Who was our last real star player ?

How long has it been ?

hototogisu 02-03-2007 03:56 PM

I don't think I've seen Kovalev "break" a single game this year.

David_99 02-03-2007 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hototogisu (Post 7901801)
I don't think I've seen Kovalev "break" a single game this year.

I can't imagine what Lappy and Steit are thinking. "He makes almost 10x what I do and I'M doing all the work? Why? Cause of what he's done in the past?"

Well prolly not but that'd be what I'm thinkin if I were them.

Ross MacLochness 02-03-2007 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by YOUTH OF HABS (Post 7901794)
Who was our last real star player ?

How long has it been ?

I have no idea but if the Chicago Blackhawks can go out and get Martin Havlat there is no excuse why we are always stuck with the Ryders and Kovalev's of the world. Hell Burke is in Anaheim for like 10 minutes and he's already got Neidermayer, Pronger, and is now supposedly one of the front runners for Forsberg.

I am sick of it. Go get a STAR Bob. No one is untouchable. This team needs an offensive star. Quit hoarding prospects and get someone who will make a difference in games like today.

Cyrrus147 02-03-2007 04:04 PM

I agree that sooner or later Gainey will have to make a big move. We need a great offensive forward, we have some assets that we can trade. Otherwise we can always sign Brière this summer.

mitchmagic 02-03-2007 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by YOUTH OF HABS (Post 7901794)
Who was our last real star player ?

How long has it been ?

I think it was Damphousse between 96-98 sometime. I could be wrong though.

Perhaps the Habs were just saving their energy for tomorrow's game, still, the 3rd period was utterly terrible today.

Mitchell

hototogisu 02-03-2007 04:06 PM

Does Patrick Roy count? :dunno:

Bill McNeal 02-03-2007 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mitchmagic (Post 7901927)
I think it was Damphousse between 96-98 sometime. I could be wrong though.

Perhaps the Habs were just saving their energy for tomorrow's game, still, the 3rd period was utterly terrible today.

Mitchell

That just made me sadder :(

Whitesnake 02-03-2007 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Albino (Post 7901559)
It's that we're an average team that pisses me off. Every time it looks like they took a step forward towards becoming a good team, they take a step back. Being in 7th-8th every year grows tiresome.

Same here. Don't worry I can't stand it, but I'll be cheering anyway, hoping we'll turn things around soon.

But I hope people will stop talking about keeping the core of this team together, 'cause it's the core that we have that makes us the 8th spot team that we have.

Habsfan18 02-03-2007 04:07 PM

where's TheDamned now???

This guy is so annoying. When Kovalev has his monthly 1 good game he comes on here and says "Where are all the Kovy bashers now?" well....where's The Damned now? :biglaugh:

btw, I'm a Kovy fan..I just don't have a man crush on him like thedamned does...


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